Halo: Reach blowout at Comic-Con – £250 hardware bundle confirmed, Forge 2.0 and Firefight Versus announced

Of course but 2m or 3m over no way.

@49

“Ahh the fanboy statement”

You show your fanboy credentials on a daily basis, this fact is not in dispute.

“it simply isnt over or at 10m thats fact.”

WTF… after your self-righteous bullshit about facts you then come out with this?

It’s embarrasing reading your posts man. It’s the verbal equivalent of scrabbling up a muddy verge. Messy and desperate.

Given that it’s been more than 2 years since the 8.1m was reported, it can be closer than you think to 10m by now, but I agree that MS would be shouting through the roof if such a milestone was surpassed.

Always amuses me at the lack of respect for 360 successes.
This game will live up to the hype I reckon as bungie are pretty good devs imo.

As I said earlier I picked up h3 again and I still can not recall any game I have played before it or up till now on either 360 PS2 or PS3 that has AI like it.
They fuc**ing throw the kitchen sink at you.
Very aggressive AI imo that is totally unpredictable.

If you like shooters I highly recommend playing this game.
The weapons are there to beat it on heroic or legendary but you will need to utilize everything at your disposal.
If reach is better I will be very happy and if it is not I will still be getting it day one.

If you dont like Halo I say fair enough but anyone who likes a fps game which is my fav type of game and are putting down Halo, well I can only wonder.

Bungie ftw.

@54 “Always amuses me at the lack of respect for 360 successes.”

I’m sure Microsoft don’t care about this so called lack of respect when they’re checking their bottom line.

It amuses me that anyone should be commenting on the lack of respect on anything. This is the internet after all. I’ve seen people celebrate companies going bust and people losing their livelihoods. Respect for a corporation’s manufactured successes is a pretty unrealistic expectation.

a great game and a great bundle, very nice.

I was never disrespecting them, on the contrary the marketing behind Halo 3 was genius. Im just clearing up a common misconception thats been mistaken as fact over the years.

I cant see this doing aswell as halo 3 considerin:

CoD has basically taken the FPS crown from halo for your average punter and its the average punter that makes the halo sales what they are, just like CoD which they have flocked to.

Plus the marketing for halo 3 was immense basically only outdone by MW2 itself. Reach marketing has so far come nowhere close. This game will review great and sell stupidly well but will it beat halo 3? I just cant see it =/

I am so buying this. Fuck me. It’s lovely.

This…or the matte black 360 that I read about somewhere? Hmmm…

I think if 3 did 10 million MS would’ve announced it.. vgchartz are the only ones reporting that figure, and Pachter makes more sense than that site . about 9 million or something seems very plausible though.

in the end, I think Reach will do similar numbers though, going by those Live activity stats it’s still one of the very top multiplayer fps. it’s silly and naive to believe that ‘marketing’ is the only/main reason people continue playing a multiplayer title.

@58 Yep thats a good way of putting it. With the likes of Cod black ops and MOH plus GT 5 all out in the same period Reach will have its work cut out so my prediction is higher then ODST but fair lower then Halo 3.

if pretty much an add-on performed that well last fall, despite MW2 being released at the same time, makes sense for a whole new multiplayer title to do numbers close to ODST’s predecessor,. don’t see how an exclusive racing from PS3 has anything to do with it. random speculations ftw.

Its a big selling racing game that appeals to the mainstream audience, and a lot of people felt burnt by Halo ODST hence why it did no where near Halo 3 numbers.

Halo fanboys sheesh.

also can i just say i was burned by odst and so i aint gettin reach

nobody expected ODST to do the Halo3 numbers. it was an add-on. it deserved the sales it got. excellent campaign, more so in co-op, and a firefight. worth the price? not for everyone.

and GT5 is being released in November (if it won’t be delayed again..) really, I don’t know where ‘d you get your stats from, but I don’t think Halo players care about it. besides, either way they’re both very mainstream releases, hence both will affect each others’ figures that way.

let’s make a bet, TH .

Hmm a bet on what? ODST was a Halo game and all previous Halo games have sold huge , also to correct you on the add on part Microsoft marketed the game as a full on Halo game and even said multiple times it wasnt an expansion pack. So basically that makes ODST the next main Halo game after 3 and it sold what it sold.

“But as we went along we got a better understanding of how much content we could create this way,” Creamer says. “Normally a Halo development cycle is three years compared to just a year here. But we weren’t going to make any changes to the engine so we had a more stable platform to work from and we were able to create quite a bit more content than we originally thought we would. That’s how the scope ended up changing from being an expansion to being a full game.”

This statement is from a Bungie dev.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/how-halo-3-odst-went-from-expansion-to-full-game/

Reach sales I mean. if you lose I get your 360 account, including credit card info.. jokes, Hindle.

it did sell ‘huge’ for what it was. Halo Wars was also a ‘halo game’.

I’m commenting on it’s value. it was pretty much an expansion, you think people will pay their money without knowing what’s inside? I know what they said. they can market Reach as two games, doesn’t make it true though. it deserved what it got. more evidence that marketing alone won’t sell your games btw =P .

why dont we just wait for the game and fucking play it when it comes out

I think a couple of you are nitpicking to say the least.

H3 sold very well. What ODST did, or what Reach does have no impact of H3s numbers.

If the next three CoD games only do 5M each are they somehow failures? If they don’t repeat the peaks of MW2, won’t mean that 5M isn’t still damn good.

Lets get this straight, ODST sold well. Reach will likly sell VERY well. No way to know for sure yet of course. Maybe Reach does 8M, maybe 10M. Maybe only that said 5M.

In the end Halo sales own PS3 exclusive sales. I saw that mentioned and have no idea why that is important to anyone. But, to me, that says a hell alot of people like and buy Halo games.

Reach is a Halo game. Its going to be huge, IMO(again time will tell).

But gripping over less that 2M sales on a game as big as H3 is silly. It really is. Do you not think the game could have done 10M by now? I mean really, isn’t it possible?

Of course it is. It is also possible that it hasn’t done that yet. But who cares. A win is a win. Isn’t it?

If you win the race by 5 car lengths or 5000 car lengths, your have still won.

Halo games win. That simple.

Personaly I think Reach is looking good. The beta was fun(and that is the point of playing last I knew). I was a bigger Halo fan with Halo and Halo2, but the other ones where well done games. I expect Reach to be well done too.

” In the end Halo owns Ps3 exclusive sales” dont you mean Halo 3? because the others Halo games so far have sold as much as any Ps3 game. The whole point of this debate was 360 fanboys were passing assumption off as fact.

Pew! Pew!

Nope I was generalizing. I was refering to Halo as a series. And those weren’t even my words, they were someone elses.

I couldn’t careless about how many millions a game does. If I enjoy it it is good enough for me.

Love it or hate it Halo has been an ace for MS and its Xbox systems.

You know TH I know for a fact you’re not a fanboy as I know you play your 360 quite a lot.
If I was to hazard a guess though I reckon I would be correct in assuming that your preference is PS3 first.

No harm in that my friend as it is a wonderful console imo.
But having said that I would like to add the caveat of gaming franchises in to the equasion.

IMO the halo one stands out on its own for just more than sales and having played 3 as my first one ever I cannot compare it to the other 2.

What I will say is though imo halo is under no threat from the likes of MW2 or other pretenders as it is just so unique on line or sp.

I have just played a couple of matches on line and the experience is just so different to MW2 that it makes me believe that the true halo base are itching for this one and will pick it up day one to have the edge on there opponents.

When an ould fella like me picks up on something like this it has to make me wonder when Sony are going to get that killer app to associate there console to the same experience.

I can actually understand the passion Halo heads feel towards this game as there is so much weaponry to be utilised online or sp.

The feel of the game is unique imo and all credit to bungie for creating that.
On the sony side I would put ND up there with Bungie but without the online support from Sony it is hard for them to create the same success imo.

I reckon reach is going to kick ass and set new standards and await the release of it with no fears of it disappointing me.

If i was going for a new 360, i’d go for the Halo: Reach one, until i saw its price. Ridiculous! Why 400 euro? When the new console is 250? So you get the new console and the game, you’d think it would be like 250 + 60 or so, but nope. You don’t even get the legendary edition with the bundle? Come on now.