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BioWare: Development on PC “less restrictive” than consoles

Thursday, 24th June 2010 19:25 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

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BioWare believes developing games on PC is “less restrictive” than consoles, and according to Daniel Erickson, it will remain the firm’s “lead” development platform.

Speaking with CVG during E3, SWTOR’s writing director said PC was “made for gaming” due to a less restrictive interface.

“Every two or three years we hear the announcement of fantasy being dead, PC gaming being dead and RPGs being dead,” he said. “And yet, all of the biggest games that ever come out – that set the records – are nearly always PC games, and a lot of them are fantasy games.

“The biggest game in the world is a fantasy, PC, RPG MMO. We all know the drawbacks of PC. We all scream at our boxes and try to make stuff work. But at the same time, the interface is made for games. The mouse/keyboard interface allows so much less restriction [than console].

“There was not a question when we started Old Republic – or any of our games, for that matter – [what the lead format would be]. There’s a reason the lead SKU for Dragon age was [PC] as well.

“When we’re developing an RPG, it’s a natural place to be.”

BioWare’s latest venture, Star Wars: The Old Republic, is slated for a PC-only release next spring, and you can find out more on it through our two-part E3 interview with Erickson here and here.

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30 Comments

  1. Hunam

    Lead platform? For Dragon Age and SWTOR maybe, but KOTOR/JE/ME are all dyed in the wool console games. I kinda worry Dragon Age 2 will be a console led game too.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Erthazus

    “When we’re developing an RPG, it’s a natural place to be.”

    Maybe i don’t like Mass Effect because it was a casual RPG game for consoles, but i’m sure that i love Bioware for their past games and Dragon Age.

    Keep up the good work guys.

    “I kinda worry Dragon Age 2 will be a console led game too.”

    It’s not going to happen never. It sold very well on PC + Steam and have AMAZING and the biggest fanbase on PC then on two consoles combined.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Phoenixblight

    @1

    And what if it is so what? Bioware has made the interfaces to fit each console and PC.

    @2

    Umm the console sold 3 million of DAO can’t exactly get the numbers for the PC. Which is fantistical for a NEW IP.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Erthazus

    @3 I saw Ps3 version that people said that is better. Interface compared to PC is bad. It’s not comfortable interface.
    You can’t manage interface in your screen or make it better for you.
    While on PC version it’s standard Bioware oldschool RPG interface that i can manage for myself, make how i want it. Bigger, smaller and e.t.c. with options and other stuff.

    “Umm the console sold 3 million of DAO can’t exactly get the numbers for the PC. Which is fantistical for a NEW IP.”

    3 million? Really? Xbox 360 version sold for 1.6 million copies. Ps3 version sold for 860000 copies. 2 Consoles combined not even close to 3 million.

    PC version sold more then 1 million copies (Only retail) not to mention about STEAM sales (Probably 2 million easy), the most important part of sales. + there was also a lot of Bioware games with prizes for PC version. There is the biggest Bioware fanbase…

    Oh and i won’t even mention on how much people downloaded the game and played on PC. Yeah, it sad… But fanbase speaks for itself.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. DeSpiritusBellum

    Hunam speaks the truth.

    However, if SWTOR becomes even half of a success (by WoW standards) Bioware should be sitting pretty enough to do some serious PC development. The Blizzard model, if you will.

    I think they have a real shot at that.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. Erthazus

    “I think they have a real shot at that.”

    With Old Republic? Not in a bit. As the hardcore MMORPG player i’m not excited about it at all and almost no one that i know. My guild is only looking forward for the Guild Wars 2, Warhammer 40K Online and next Blizzard announcement.

    Bioware completely don’t understand the MMORPG formula and what makes Blizzard MMORPG games so special and at the same time they are trying to rip off everything from it.

    It’s not even in the TOP 10 most anticipated MMORPG games this gen on PC according to MMORPG.com
    Not to mention that it has only 4th place in the upcoming MMORPG’s of next year.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. ybfelix

    So, half of the sales is on console despite fundamentally unfit for it, that’s pretty impossible to ignore now..

    (I tried console version of DAO at friend’s, indeed it’s simply cumbersome,dare I say awful to control)

    #7 4 years ago
  8. DeSpiritusBellum

    @6 Sorry, I forgot about your crystal ball there for a second.

    If you and your friends aren’t buying it, it’s clearly doomed.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Phoenixblight

    @4

    “Dragon Age has shipped 2.8 million units worldwide across the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC through the end of the quarter. [UPDATE] In a subsequent announcement, EA said Dragon Age: Origins shipments have now topped 3.2 million.”

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6249940.html

    Not sure where you are pulling your numbers from because there is no way to check PC sells especially through things like Steam or D2D. But if you numbers are true do the math:

    1600000 + 860000 = 2.46 mil that leaves 800k for the PC. Your math fails.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. loki

    Facepalm

    Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla
    And why you don’t make Dragon Age or MS only for PC? Oh no because, PC only it is fail only (except MMO and Sims). Say thanks to Xbox and PS3 users who bring you money and food on your tables. And don’t kiss PC gamers asses, who download games from torrent. Ungrateful bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #10 4 years ago
  11. Erthazus

    @8
    It’s doomed? Of course not. But it’s going to be the same thing like with Warhammer Online.
    Everybody thought that it will be a World Of Warcraft killer. Now, the situation is even worse.

    Same will be with the Old Republic. It’s not a surprise. I saw 30-40 MMORPG games that wanted to be like WOW or just killers, but they all ended in the end for Free, closed, item shop stuff :D

    @9 “1600000 + 860000 = 2.46 mil that leaves 800k for the PC. Your math fails.”

    It’s your math fails because it has nothing to do with the PC. 1.6 and 860K are only consoles. ONLY. Where did you find 800K? Numbers that i said are from VGchartz. Yes, they are not absolutely official but based by NPD numbers and e.t.c.

    #11 4 years ago
  12. Phoenixblight

    @11

    Read my source from Gamespot which pulled from EA’s quarterly.

    1.6+860k = 2.46M then you subtract 2.46 from 3.2mil (What EA said has sold of DAO across all platforms) what do you get? Around 800k which you would assume is PC because we already used your PS3 and 360 numbers.

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Erthazus

    “Read my source from Gamespot which pulled from EA’s quarterly”

    Can you read it for yourself?

    EA SHIPS, don’t SELL 3.2 million copies on FEBRUARY! ON F E B R U A R Y.
    you know mate, it’s June now and on Steam it’s still on Top Sellers.
    VGChartz numbers show only console sales and have nothing to do with the PC sales.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. Phoenixblight

    Thats what I have been saying and you are pulling the PC numbers out of your ass.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. DeSpiritusBellum

    @11 I don’t remember anyone referring to Warhammer as superior, in any way. Mythic barely seemed to know what they wanted with the game themselves.

    Basically every subscriber you get is gonna come from an already popular MMO, so if you’re gonna stand a chance, you’re gonna need a better offering.

    So far, the buzz is looking promising.

    You’d be a fool to expect to challenge a 7 year old gaming institution like WoW in your first year of release, though. What they want is a respectable piece of the pie.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. Erthazus

    “I don’t remember anyone referring to Warhammer as superior, in any way. Mythic barely seemed to know what they wanted with the game themselves.”

    Because you are not a MMORPG gamer. Who are in MMORPG and played at that time WOW or is registered in MMORPG.com. Everybody said that it will be a World Of warcraft killer.
    I remember it had 3rd place on most anticipated MMORPG games of the year, but after the release date and since it’s on 14th place and Star Wars now is only on 11th place. People not even hyped for it.

    “You’d be a fool to expect to challenge a 7 year old gaming institution like WoW in your first year of release, though. What they want is a respectable piece of the pie.”

    and they won’t even have 3/11 piece of WOW’s pie. No guts.
    Because game for a MMORPG in my perspective and many serious MMORPG gamers looks like any other MMORPG game with exception that it is Star Wars.

    For me, it looks like a Star Wars fan service then a MMORPG game. IMHO.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. DeSpiritusBellum

    @16 Nice try, but actually I played WoW since the late beta and helped build the top raiding guild on my server, playing until Sunwell.

    Like I said, I don’t recall anyone being up in arms about it. People were mostly just confused about whether it would be a PVP oriented game, which is no surprise, since Mythic barely seemed to know what their own focus was.

    You quote a lot of pseudo-facts pulled off the internet, but it doesn’t reflect the tentative previews, reviews or general mood at the time. I followed it through early development, and I would’ve bought a Warhammer MMO that seemed halfway decent, but I chose not to based on what I saw and read.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. Phoenixblight

    @16

    “Star Wars now is only on 11th place. People not even hyped for it.”

    Thats probably because no one cares for that site and its not planed on release til Spring 2011, there are other games on their mind right now.

    Again just making wild claims based on your small group of friends is a bit moronic because on that token, I can say the people that I know that play WoW and have played various other MMOs are very much looking forward to ToR.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. Erthazus

    “Thats probably because no one cares for that site ”

    Because your head is full of shit. http://www.mmorpg.com have the biggest MMORPG fanbase. There is no site that have the community of that level. You need other sites? It’s the same.

    “its not planed on release til Spring 2011, there are other games on their mind right now.”

    and because you are an idiot. Guild Wars 2 and Secret World don’t even have a PLANED release date and they are on the first and third places for example.

    Guild Wars 2
    FF 14
    Secret World

    Are 3 most anticipated MMORPG games for now. Soon Warhammer 40K will take Secret World crown.

    I’m looking forward for Guild Wars 2. It’s going to be amazing.

    “Again just making wild claims based on your small group of friends is a bit moronic because on that token, I can say the people that I know that play WoW and have played various other MMOs are very much looking forward to ToR.

    It’s not based on small group of people. It’s based on guild that have more then 100 people.
    But it’s not important. The most important part that MMORPG community don’t even care. Go look at other sites, you need another links of less popular MMORPG sites? MMORPG players really don’t care.

    you are not MMORPG player, if you think it is awesome, you never played MMORPG games before. Old Republic is just old formula to be excited.

    Over all Old Republic takes 4th place on Top games in development and 11 place overall from all games.

    #19 4 years ago
  20. Phoenixblight

    Oh God You are just as bad as TEA. I am not a MMORPG player because I look forward to this game. Arguing with you just as bad as any fanboy, you pull numbers out of your ass and deny any real facts.

    When WoW first started the fanbase of Evercrack said the exact same thing you are saying about ToR. Look at whats happened. You just constantly go to every topic about ToR and say this will fail, maybe, maybe not we won’t know til a year after release. Stop Trolling!

    #20 4 years ago
  21. Erthazus

    “you pull numbers out of your ass and deny any real facts. ”

    Go to mmorpg.com. Not enough numbers and facts? If not enough then it’s your problems.
    Facts are here at http://www.MMORPG.com the biggest MMO base site.

    “When WoW first started the fanbase of Evercrack said the exact same thing you are saying about ToR”

    Absolutely NOT. I was one of the first one who preordered it first day available and there was already one million preorders. Game looked incredible.
    It was innovative, it sounded incredible and most of all it was made on the Warcraft universe. Warcraft universe was designed to be MMO and fans wanted it from the start.

    “You just constantly go to every topic about ToR and say this will fail”

    Not true. I’m not saying that it will FAIL, it simply won’t do good for EA and Bioware they want. Do you think i don’t want great MMORPG game? Republic? Well… It looks OK.

    “maybe not we won’t know til a year after release”

    Maybe. But it’s EA, it’s always with their MMORPG games, i don’t expect something incredible from a World Of warcraft clone with lightsabers.

    #21 4 years ago
  22. DeSpiritusBellum

    Facepalm.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. Phoenixblight

    @21

    I have looked at those numbers and it based on a rating from 1-10 which compared to the top three its only .10 -.15 off Whoop!

    Which is pretty good considering it has a year to go before release and EA hasn’t been marketing for it yet.

    EA has only put out one MMO and that was Warhammer, it didn’t fail because it was EA it failed because the dev team didn’t have a direction and weren’t sure what to do with the game other than “it will be a WoW killer”.

    #23 4 years ago
  24. ekfight

    I really dont see why you cant just use a mouse and keyboard with your xbox. its got usb inputs. there should be a game designed for the console that make syou use it – so people will buy them for your consoles.

    it WOULD work.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. Phoenixblight

    @24

    Because Devs can’t base assumption that some if not all players will have a keyboard and mouse plus they have to make the UI work with the controls being used. Bioware has the best solution make the games UI around the controls being used.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Blerk

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want to use mouse and keyboard for my console games.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. IL DUCE

    Yeah no one said fantasy and RPGs were dead fucktards…but PC gaming is dead besides the nerds that can afford $3000 computers to actually run the games at full fidelity and then buy $500 graphics cards every year instead of getting them provided to us like those in the game industry have the luxury of getting…

    #27 4 years ago
  28. ivycrew707

    Lol Last of a dying breed…….but is Aion any good on pc?

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Phoenixblight

    @28

    No its not so much so they decided to shrink their servers because its not popular.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. Springchicken

    Hey guys, I wouldn’t want to bother with this normally, but considering anecdotal situations are being used to back up arguments of SWTOR’s inevitable failure, I want to mention that all the interest I hear towards the game is from people who aren’t die hard WoW players, or even the sort of gamers who need to have a subscription to one MMO or another active at any one point.

    A large amount of interest, and a great deal of focus for BioWare, seems to be centred around people who wouldn’t normally pay much heed to the ‘next big’ MMO. I’m not sure if it’s because of BioWare’s emphasis on the plot progression and individual experiences possible in the game or some other factor, but it’s working to differentiate SWTOR from the next best WoW beater.

    #30 4 years ago

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