Remedy: Wake sequel still not “confirmed”

i’m sure this time it’s going to be multiplatform (PC, 360) because it sold not much.

I’m really surprised why it did bad in Europe. Europe are fans of atmosphere games. Especially from the creators of Max Payne.

That doesn’t sound very promising, to be honest.

i played with Alan for the first time last night, the game looks amazing

poor old rusty

I doubt it would be multi…MS will surely own the IP. Have we actually got any concrete numbers for Alan Wake yet?

*sigh* I wish Remedy were making Max Payne 3. I just know that Max Payne 3 won’t be as dark and gritty as the previous games, story probably won’t be as good either.

Actually that isnt reassuring at all =/

i expect remedy to say something more definitive than that. And you can bet MS had quite high hopes for this after all that weren’t met.

Also I thought it was overrated aswell >_>

@5 Rockstar is making it. I think it will be awesome.

I don’t think they advertised it enough, it should’ve had tv commercials showing off the graphics and some of the intense action, might’ve shifted a few more copies

@7 hmmm maybe…we’ll see.

From friends whose taste is fairly compatible with my own I’ve got the impression that AW is pretty mediocre.

Shame given how impressive it looked when it was 1st revealed (PC exclusive).

@10 Yeaaah, at that time game looked like Crysis, but now, yeah… Kinda mediocre, but they are small team.

I just started playing this last night too!

I think maybe Microsoft got the marketing all wrong for this one, it just didn’t seem to have the oomph behind it that a lot of their self-published games do. The same thing seems to be happening with Crackdown 2 as well, which is kind of concerning – it’s like there’s a two-tier level of support for their own games. Which is just plain weird.

If MS dont expect a game to do well, they dont sink money into advertising it. Simple as.

I, for one, enjoyed the game enough to wish for a sequel! Far from mediocre, if you ask me…

Did people really expect this to sell well? Really?

Stephen King-alike with flashlights instead of guns does not sound like a winner to me.

Wrong crowd to, the 360 isnt about SP only games. I think Alan Wake is like the second first party game on 360 to have no MP in the 5 years the platforms been on sale.

According to VGChartz(http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=13817) since release, it’s sold 472,431 copies worldwide and 181,846 in Europe.

OUCH!! i know vgchartz is not always the best indicator for sales but MAN!

@15 Heavy Rain for it’s niche genre sold fantastic.

But Alan Wake was a shooter and had 1st party support.

“181,846 in Europe.”

thats really bad, i don’t understand how it sold 180K really.

I think its marketing was underwhelming.

I had little interest to play the game. But when I recieved my Pal Alan Wake set up, I gave it a go. I was extremly impressed. It was on the short side, but was a great ride.

After watching me play, both my teens are playing it too. I just think someone droped the ball when it came to pushing the game.

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Sorry Blerk, you said basicly the samething. Didn’t mean to copy you. Next I wait till I have my caffine, before I post

@19

“i don’t understand how it sold 180K really.”

Like I said, Stephen King eith flashlights. Not a recipe for success.

@1: STFU, the NPDs results aren’ even out, dumbfucks. SHitcharz numbers, lol.

to be fair marketing this wouldn’t have been easy in my eyes anyway.

calling it a “psychological action thriller” all the time on the box, trailers etc did not help. Its deliberately obtuse for what is just an action game with some supernatural elements.

I believe ‘Stephen King’ is kind of popular. Why couldn’t such a game be a success if done and marketed correctly?

@Erthazus
“Heavy Rain for it’s niche genre sold fantastic.

But Alan Wake was a shooter and had 1st party support.”

’1st party support’ ? HR was published and heavily marketed by Sony as well, wasn’t it.

“I believe ‘Stephen King’ is kind of popular.”

So are a lot of people – Clive Barker, George Romero, etc, but their games were flops too, right?

„Ozz“ Häkkinen talk about that in a video interview with a german Website too.
http://www.derwesten.de/leben/games/Alan-Wake-in-der-Vorschau-id2661604.html
answers are in english.

Clive Barker and George Romero’s games were shit, though.

Undying was not shit!!! It had its moments…

Undying was good.

undying has not aged well ;(

Alan Wake should have been 360/PS3/PC multiplatform, focused on gameplay and not trying to be some ‘next big thing’ of graphics and it would have sold well enough with that base.

On 360 only it seemed doomed to mediocre sales at best, simply too niche for the platform no matter how much it was pushed (which wasn’t very much in the end).

does anybody know the overall figures for it?

The US figures are delayed because of the NPDs buggering about this month.

UK figures are never forthcoming, but it reached number 2 in the all formats chart on release and is still in the charts six weeks later so it can’t be doing that badly over here. Europe could be another matter altogether, of course.

The US figures are delayed because of the NPDs buggering about this month.

ah, right I forgot about that!

Its always a testament if a game has sold well if people on your friends list has bought it, only 2 guys have played this on my list. I wouldnt expect a sequel imo

@33 – when you put it that way and knowing the ps3 audience vs 360 audience I think it would be fair to say this game would have done better as a ps3 exclusive rather than 360 exclusive.

Hindle, are you serious ??

It doesnt help the game is pretty poor as well my opinion obviously, Alan wake narrates everthing he sees and its so fucking annoying. The gameplay is pretty much shine light then shoot rinse and repeat etc.

@Daman i am yea why?

I’m still not entirely sure why they ditched the PC version.

Incidentally, at least a quarter of my friends list have played it in the last few weeks, so it might say more about your friends than the game itself, Hindle.

I do wonder whether it suffered from launching too close to Red Dead, though – pretty much all of the games that launched around the same time have underperformed. Blur and Split/Second, for instance.

How many friends do you have though, games like Modern warfare or Halo or Gears most of my friends list have played those games and they have sold well its not a reliable way to judge a games sales but it gives a rough estimate.

.. well you have to have a crapload of Xbox friends for one, and even so that’s no way of judging the sales.

even a poll on Gamefaqs is better.

78, I think. I fully agree that’s it’s not a reliable way to test, though – it says more about the types of people you hang around with rather than actual sales.

Although I’d say that at least three quarters (if not more) of my friends were playing Red Dead in week one, so maybe there’s something in it after all?

When Alan Wake came out no one on my list was playing it and for a AAA new Microsoft exclusive i found that suprising.

Obviously Microsoft have not given out sales data and thats unsual for them as say for Halo or Gears they tell you within a few days how well its doing. Its a rough way like i said but it shows if a game is popular or not.

I dont mean it gives sales data i mean it shows if a game is popular or not, should have worded it better

Blerk, there are two possible reasons for ditching the PC version in my mind, both of them not painting a great picture for MS.

1. They wanted all interested customers to get the x360 version -even purchase the console if necessary- to get another x360 big hit in their arsenal. Not to mention that potential DLC sales have been more or less established in the console land but not so much in PC land.

2. The PC version was technically much better than the x360 one, in terms of screen resolution and anti-aliasing for instance, making the x360 version look poor in comparison.

All in all, it will be a crying shame if they ditch the sequel.

it doesn’t, it says more about your friends like Blerk said, lulz.

and I bet almost every single 360 owner played at least one Halo game on his Xbox, the examples you used were too trivial and obvious.

It seems weird to cancel it completely though, JonFE. Why not just say ‘it’ll be out later, we’re concentrating on the Xbox version’? And if the PC version wasn’t technically better then there was something very, very wrong, so surely it’d be no surprise to anyone if the PC version turned out looking better?

Reason 1 rings more true for me, but if that’s what they did then it absolutely didn’t work for them – look at the bile that was generated from the PC community as a result of the announcement. I’m guessing round about none of those guys actually went out and got the 360 version after that.

Reason 3 would be, of course, that it flat out wasn’t anywhere near done because they’d been putting all the effort into the 360 version at Microsoft’s behest. But if that was true, what was to stop them doing a ‘quick and dirty’ port of the 360 version to the PC right afterwards?

So many things about Alan Wake’s final stages of development make no sense at all. I hope one day we get the full story.