E3 2010: Who won the press conferences?

they started it

@148

I’ll take a guess and say…gay sex?

I cant understand how a press conference that had a girl harassing a cat called Skittles can be given a 9, but to each is own thats how the saying goes.

@JonFE: Seeing as the correlation that exists between adolescents and fanboyism is non-mutually exclusive; are you really surprised?

@147 – the Kevin Butler thing was amusing at the time, but it did feel self-indulgent, particularly as Sony had precious little to snipe at its rivals about. Naturally a bit of smack-talk is to be expected at these events, but it was telling that Microsoft and Nintendo both concentrated on getting their own houses in order.

Perhaps Sony’s just felt longer as it came immediately after Nintendo’s impressive showing, but certainly among the people I spoke to, Sony came off worst of the three.

I just find it odd that so many are willing to forget the opening of Microsoft’s conference, which was about as core-centric as you could wish for – even if a couple of those titles were multiformat. Granted, I think MS would have been sensible to feature Child of Eden or even the Forza demo I played on the Wednesday, but then I didn’t really mind the casual-focused content because by then I’d played it and enjoyed it.

As a father, I’m genuinely interested in Kinect as a way into gaming for my son, who finds the often-complex control schemes for modern games a bit too hard to take in at the moment (he’s four). And it’s also something that’s likely to interest my wife, in a way that most games don’t.

As Pat says, Sony concentrated on some odd things and then glossed over other important stuff. And the final ‘surprise’ was underwhelming to say the least.

On the show floor, Sony’s stand had plenty of interesting stuff, chiefly on PSN, which went sadly ignored during the briefing. Five or ten minutes on that instead of the slightly embarrassing and desperate here’s-how-we’re-going-to-try-and-sell-the-PSP campaign would have improved things.

And nothing whatsoever on Last Guardian? Could have paid lip service to it, at least.

@Rudderless. I agree with pretty much everything you said there. As a PSP owner however, it was good to see that (on the face of it at least) that Sony are still putting some support behind the existing model.

“As a father, I’m genuinely interested in Kinect as a way into gaming for my son, who finds the often-complex control schemes for modern games a bit too hard to take in at the moment (he’s four). ”

Haha! Don’t worry about that. By the time he’s 6, you’ll probably be asking him to teach you how to quick scope…

StolenGlory said: I’m not negative. I just don’t have a tolerance for one-dimensional trolling fanboy morons.

No one is trolling here. Everyone is speaking their opinion. Do you see anyone here cursing and using profaned language toward each other in a crazy way? No. RGW guy use to troll but he got ban. Garratt knows we all just have fun and don’t take it to the extreme.

Every one here knows their limits and boundaries before it gets to ugly. Thats why I start with the sarcasm because its really not that serious. I must have really got under your skin for you to start posting for the first time which is great because now we have another good poster who joined. If thats what we can get out of our virtual fits then I’m all up for Garratt’s little fanboy articles.

It only makes us respect each other more at the end of the day and have greater debates the next. So take it easy buddy its only fun and games

Ahhh….

Let’s all hug tea!

He’s so nice.

I guess a *manly* group-hug is in order, then…

Now that we put this behind us (in a *manly* way of course), tell us Pat, how do you like your new toy?

No hugs, just everyone pitch in $50 for that half German half Japanese hooker

Subjectively speaking, I’d say that Sony gave the best press conference, just because the Kevin Butler speech was quite possibly the best E3 moment I’ve *ever* witnessed.

Objectively speaking, Nintendo had the best press conference because it outed a gaming system capable of 3D output without the need for special glasses, *plus* a stellar launch line-up.

@TEA.

My position on your inital post remains the same. I’m sure you’re a smart enough guy, but if you are, don’t do yourself the disservice of posting like you’re not.

@Gheritt – The Kevin Butler speech was helluva entertaining indeed.

@158

“No one is trolling here.”

WRONG! You are trolling here, every day.

This is your average post:

“Durr, RROD! Duh…. XBOT! Me like SONY, you not cleverer. DERRRP!”

You are a troll, plain and simple. Stupid, abusive, unable to reason. Troll.

theeviltroll. simple as that.

@Gadzooks!

To be fair, the fanboyism never really gets irritating so much as it is amusing.

What really bugs me is when I see ‘RAR, RAR, *Insert system of choice*, IS TEH BEST, RAR, RAR’, followed by ‘Don’t give me that fanboy flame shit’ as a comment closer.

Be a fanboy all you want. But please, do so with a pair and a spine.

StolenGlory,Gadzooks!,and DaMan….I love you three stooges now stand still while I snipe you guys….ready!

PEW! PEW! PEW!

I feel left out now…

TEA

@155

I really didn’t think their core centric opening was anything to crow about. As I’ve said, it was mostly just a rehash of their 2009 showing. Halo: Reach is coming… still, oh and here’s Hideo Kojima for ten seconds, just to remind you that we’ve got Metal Gear on 360… lol?!?!?!? Oh, and here’s another CoD timed exclusive! It was a mockingly feeble attempt to allay the fears of the core.

There’s a great gif floating around that shows the highlights of MS’s conference, and it basically just shows Raiden chopping a water melon followed by the word, fin. I think this goes back to the disconnect between gaming journalists and gamers I mentioned at the start.
From a gamers point of view, actual footage of Rising.. a multi platform game but crucially, something we hadn’t seen before actually stole their show, as everything else demoed we either knew or didn’t care about. The Kinect stuff people didn’t care about simply because it was consistently aimed at a different market to that which was sat watching streams of the show across the globe. I’d like to say it was just poor judgement on MS’s part, but looking at the games they’ve actually announced, it doesn’t look as though they have anywhere else to shine the spotlight on.

Sure the Sony conference could have been better. I know a team Ico collection along with a proper look at The Last Guardian would have been enough for many gamers to call it for Sony, but I think many gamers and journalists forget that E3 is still a trade show, so whilst it might seem crazy on the face of it to give conference time to a new PSP commercial, it is crucial for Sony to get the message out that PSP is still a focus for them, and they will be pushing that platform over the coming year.

They also know that the current Kevin Butler campaign has been a huge success, so revealing a spin off version for the PSP is something which will bolster retailer confidence in the platform, and actually giving it as much time as they did is an important show of force from Sony, in a market where many people are questioning either the demise or successor of the platform.

Anyway, it’s interesting to hear you had a different take on it, and I suppose the problem is that as much as I’d like to say that I’m keen to try kinect for myself, MS totally failed to sell it to me, and as I’m fairly open minded to motion controls, it’s hardly surprising that their conference landed with such a thud for most gamers.

@Robo_1:

What did you think of their claim for newly invigorated PSP support?

How do you believe they’ll follow it through?

I’m asking since I was hoping that the unveling of GoW: Ghosts of Sparta was merely the tip of the iceberg and that we would see some more first-party love for the PSP.

@162, Thats subjective.

In reality SHARP is who created 3D capabilities to it’s screen
Sony and Microsoft have power to do the same shit.
3D is just a PR magic to sell that device, from some previews 3D is an OK thing on the 3DS.

But you can’t have the same 3D quality effect like from Sony’s games. Not because they are on big screen, it’s because they put enough research behind 3D. They have an entire movie studio to back them up.

3DS sells only 3rd party support, remakes like Ocarina.

“Didn’t take long for team retard to start using the word ‘bias’ did it?

I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS SO THEREFORE YOUR OPINIONS ARE WRONG/BIASED”

No Duffking.

That should read –

YOU USE DEROGITORY TERMS TO DESCRIBE THE COMPETION TO YOUR PREFERRED CONSOLE MANUFACURER THERFORE DISPLAYING YOUR BIAS TOWARDS SAID MANUFACTURER.

I don’t really care who had the best E3, but morons using terms like ‘Microshit’ don’t really help the debate along do they?

Neither do retards like you with their broken caps lock keys defending them, with equally highbrow terms like ‘team retard’, well done that man.

My original comment stands, and also applies to you it would seem.

@StolenGlory

I think however much Sony want to re-assure customers and publishers that they’re still 100 percent behind the platform, as soon as they have a viable replacement ready, they’ll launch it.

The new $9.99 range they’re launching is a good move, and the odd big game like God Of War will be just enough to stop the platform from dropping off into total obscurity in the west.

It’s certainly entering its twilight years though, with Apple on one side and Nintendo on the other, Sony must be acutely aware that whatever they release as a PSP successor, it’s going to have to be cheap and inventive enough to compete with Nintendo, yet be enough of a high end multimedia device to keep Apple at bay.

It’s not an envious task to be honest, and the timescale for such a move is made all the more awkward by the platforms East/West success ratio, where it’s cleaning up in Japan, but dying a death in the western markets.

I think PSP Go was designed to buy them some time, but as that’s clearly not gone to plan, they’re in this odd situation of not wanting to commit too many resources/cash to it, as they’re just not going to see much of a return on their investment, versus the fact that if they don’t commit enough resources to it, the platform is going to stay in this weird limbo state.

Personally I think the PSP has a great back catalogue of games, and if they leverage that and drip feed it with a good few titles they can string it out for another 18 months, which will hopefully be enough time for them to get PSP2 into shape and ready for retail.

Yipee 174 comments . Yea, definitely the largest thread I’ve seen on the site.

@166

Yes actually, the fanboyism is pathetic and it is very irritating. All TEA’s stupid fanboy comments do is derail the thread.

All the child wants to do is prevent people who are capable of reasoned conversation from doing so. He wants everyone to stop what they are talking about and talk about him instead.

It’s nothing to do with platform. He doesnt care about Sony or MS or games or anything being discussed, he only cares about himself and being the centre of attention.

What pisses me off is that it works. The insecure needy little child gets his audience.

I want a damned ignore button so this stupid little vandal can no longer be heard. Take away his voice and the child is nothing.

@ 175, i think ive seen 200+ not too long ago

spiderLaw we have gotten close to 500 before. Back in the good ol’ days when Mike and psychotext were M$’s main players on this site. Now there’s Gadzooks! and some random newbie like StolenGlory trying to follow in there footsteps every week with a mere 100 post weak comment debate.

@ Gadzooks! Wake up kid , get out of your denial!

Alakratt is a bigger nutter than TEA in this thread. That in itself deserves some kid of T-Shirt or money off coupons for his local chemist.

Dude’s gone mental.

@176
Not trying to irritate you but i think if what you are saying is really TEA’s intent, then he is succeeding with flying colors.
I know you mentioned that he is, but i wanted to agree with your statement and have it acknowledged that he might just be a masterful commenter…well, according to how you describe him.
I think he is hilarious, even when he is supposidly “trolling.” Reminds me of a guy over at screenrant called KenJ

on the article:
after reading all the comments, my opinion still stands.
1) Sony
2) Nintendo
3) Microsoft
I just felt as a gamer, the order of my list stands for the amount of game content that i would want to see at an E3 presentation.
I think all 3 companies need to stay way from the bullshit of “We sold this many last year. We sold this item this much last month. Press is saying this about us.” and focus more on “This is the line up we are bringing to you. This is how much better these games are going to get. This is how we are going to fix the issues that are still affecting our games and how they are experienced. This is how we are gonna stop developers from handing us garbage after claiming their game to be the best ever.”

@178

spiderLAW my good sir,….you’re a genius and MIKE shut it! before I PEW PEW you! Run back to games for windows PC boy

@TEA
500!!!
Where do you guys find the time?!

@182:

That’s it PEW! PEW! PEW! (now play dead for the rest of the day)

We have no lives spiderLAW #184 is evident enough

You people care too much.

@182
Oh and thanks. Sometimes i like to think that i have at least the brain capactiy of a 12yr old….keyword being “think”

@185
obviously, lol.

@186
best comment of the day

@180

Unfortunately the funny side of TEA’s stupidity is greatly overshadowed by his unpleasantness.

If I went to a circus I might enjoy watching a clown. If that clown came over and squirted water from a flower lapel in my face I’d laugh, but when that clown comes over every 2 minutes, takes an innefectual swing at me, fails and decides to hock a loogie in my chips instead, pretty soon I’m gonna want to take a corkscrew to his intestines and show him how full of shit he is.

Wow. This thread has unveiled all sorts of new levels of stupid hypocracy. Especially by Alakratt, although certainly not just him and also not just from the Sony camp.

Alakratt & TEA, here’s a clue to why you were called hypocrites, since you keep claiming nobody can explain why: because you both constantly accuse absolutely everyone else of being fanboys and profess to hate all forms of fanboyism yourselves, and then write paragraphs upon paragraphs on why you unwaveringly hate the opposing console, the manufacturers of the opposing console and any gamer who has ever dared to play a game on the opposing console and had the audacity to enjoy the experience. You have no reservations of ridiculing and hating anyone who dares play anything on the console you personally dislike. That’s fanboyism, and that’s hypocracy.

Real gamers don’t give a flying fuck about who came first with Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, or any other brand. Real gamers game on whatever platforms the games they enjoy are available on. Guess what! A lot of people play games on both Playstations and Xboxes – and enjoy both! Sorry of it’s a difficult concept to grasp when you’re so wrapped up in a “my console/stick/epeen is bigger and cooler than yours and you’re a fanboy if you say otherwise!” fanatic rant, but any real gamer worth his or her salt just doesn’t give a shit about your brand-name obsession/slavery. It doesn’t matter which side of the war you’re on; if you believe that yours is better and anyone who disagrees is stupid, whether it be xbox, ps3 or jaguar, you’re a fanboy and an idiot. Different people enjoy different things. Accept and move on – you’d have more time to spend enjoying your own games if you spent less of it worrying about whether everyone else likes the same things you do to reassure your fragile self-esteem that, yes, you’re one of the cool kids with the cool toys. And you’d be happier. And so would the rest of us.

Personally, I love my 360, and I love my PS3, and I love my gaming PC, and I couldn’t be happier with the games I play on any of them. I can’t stand the wii, I just don’t find it enjoyable… but if other people enjoy it, so what? That’s cool for them. I think no less of them.

And on to the actual subject at hand… Who won? Nobody won! They were all average, leaning towards shit. This has been the most uninteresting E3 from all three camps by far for many a year, for me. I don’t care about motion games, I don’t care about keeping up with the wii-playing Jonses, and I’m not impressed by stuff I already knew about or by new hardware I don’t want (motion stuff) or have no desire to upgrade (my DS and my TV). All of the big presentations were completely unremarkable to me. As someone stated earlier (Blerk I think, lost it amongst all the other stuff in this thread!), the best announcements in my opinion came from the developers in the booths, because that’s where the interesting games were. And at the end of the day, interesting games is what we all want, surely, regardless of which platform(s) we play on?

@188:

That has to be the wierdest analogy I’ve ever read.

@189

A-freaking-men!

@190

Thanks!

I can’t say much about Alakratt as I don’t know him much, but some of you take tea way too seriously.

He’s just joking half the time…

Anyone who knew what he was like when he first started posting, compared to how his is now could see that, surely.

Joke stopped being funny 765 days ago precisely.

GHz, when TEA first started posting he was insufferable all the time.. now he’s insufferable only most of the time.

I mean, all that shit where he pretended not to be from America while simultaneously calling us all Eurofags? Great, so he may have been kidding, but I for one was not overly thrilled on his arrival to our little corner of the net.

In every other social context outside of the internet he’d've had seven shades of shit beaten out of him by now.

Also, I’d go as far to say that VG247 is the only place he can post like he does. He’s personal, confrontational and would be banned from anywhere else.

He takes Pat’s leniency and generosity and spits on it. No respect.

seriez bizniz

Nintendo didn’t win. The only reason they were successful this time is because of how bad and embarrassing their previous conferences were.

Woah its on between Mike and Tea in the red corner its Mike in the blue corner its Tea.

Mr Tea is pretty much the same as back then, only now many people ‘ve learned to detect the tone he’s writing in. but to be fair, he’s far from being the most repulsive poster here.

anyway, I thought Ninty were the most impressive, way better than the others. both game content and announcements wise. surprisingly good show from them.

@199
Edit: i shouldnt be so immature as to single out a person.