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E3 2010: Who won the press conferences?

Monday, 21st June 2010 05:58 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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That’s that, then. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft fired their best shots at E3 in Los Angeles last week, and we sat through every minute of every presentation. Some of it was awesome. Some of it was baffling. All of it was gradable out of ten and putable into a meaningless list.

Who won? Who cares? Hit the link, sucker.

The idea of Nintendo “winning” E3 in recent years has been something of a joke. While Reggie and the rest of the firm’s top team struggled painfully to balance the needs of an exasperated core at E3 with an obvious intention of “making a massive money hat,” Wii and DS have ploughed on to record success despite some frankly awful LA showcases in 2008 and 2009. No one can take away the quality we saw this year, though.

It was a banner showing for the company’s entire portfolio. E3 hardware launches are always the stuff of history, and it’s hard to remember one more stunning than 3DS. To be fair, the actual conference unveiling was fairly muted: as admitted to us in an interview after the fact, showing the 3D aspects of the machine was an impossible ask on the Nokia Theater’s stage, hence the army of stiletoed women in the crowd with units at the end of the presentation. The legacy of the reveal, though, is already shocking. Ask anyone that’s watched the handheld’s screen in action. 3DS was the story of the entire show. When asked the obligatory, “What have you seen that’s good?” through the following days, it was surprising to hear anything other than a breathless “3DS” as the first call.

It wasn’t Nintendo’s only conference trump, though. Wii enjoyed a similar rebirth to DS, showing a stream of software that apparently showed a lesson learned. There is such a thing as “too casual”.

Nintendo announced the Skyward Sword subtitle for the next Zelda and delayed the game into 2011 straight off the bat. Ironically, this was the weakest showing of the whole conference, and that’s saying something. Miyamoto complained of “wireless” problems and couldn’t get things moving properly, but the game looks pretty much like Zelda with a focus on MotionPlus combat. You’re unlikely to be swayed unless you’re already a fan.

From there, though, Wii started to look more interesting than it has in years. Both the new Donkey Kong and Kirby games showed smart reinvention, and pleased the crowd hugely. GoldenEye was announced, and features OddJob. You can’t say fairer than that. Epic Mickey got a big showing, and while Disney must be petrified at the thought of non-existent third-party Wii sales – which Nintendo, obviously, make a large point of denying early on in the conference – you’ll probably be buying it if you’re invested in the system. When Reggie added up Wii’s incoming software at the end of the show, it was hard to not be impressed.

3DS stole it, though. Nintendo showed a ton of footage of the Kid Icarus reboot, which looked for all the world like a Wii game. Snake Eater on 3DS was serious business, as was confirmation of a brand new Resident Evil title. Third-party backing for the machine looked immense, and even showing a stupid video of Miyamoto shaking a plastic dog hand through a screen right at the end couldn’t spoil an excellent showing.

There was no Cammie, no prancing around to a bloody orchestra and no virtual dog catching a pretend Frisbee. Nintendo aced E3 with proper videogames, stunning hardware and an oil-slick pitch. Winner.

10/10

Kinect’s E3 reveal has was nothing if not a, “Were you there?” moment. Held the day before the main 360 conference, the event, created by Microsoft and Cirque de Soleil, began with forcing attendees to step into a family’s living room wearing a white poncho. What followed, when combined with jetlag, was basically ridiculous. You all saw it. Natal’s final name, which leaked just before the show, was the big piece of information, with a long software showing bearing no titles, date or anything else. We saw a string of very casual games, some Star Wars, some final hardware shots and got harassed for sending back info on iPhones and Blackberries. For the record, Cliffy B nearly got thrown out for tweeting. While the “Natal Experience” was spectacular nonsense, attendance was unforgettable.

With the dust settling on Natal’s rebranding, Microsoft started its main 360 conference the following day with a bang. There are bad ways to open a console’s near-future intent; announcing a three-year Call of Duty content exclusivity partnership isn’t one of them. From there on in the headlines just wrote themselves. MGS: Rising looked amazing, shown for the first time. Fable III got a surprisingly quick slot and a date, before Molyneux just vanished. Halo: Reach, however, got a campaign airing and confirmation of Firefight and space combat. You’re not going to see many “shooters” surpassing Reach this generation, if promises are upheld. Gears 3 was just stunning, with Epic now unshakable in its content and tech this hardware round.

The presser’s Kinect portion wasn’t as convincing, but it wasn’t without its merits. The standout software shown was Harmonix’s Dance Central and, weirdly, Ubisoft’s YourShape fitness title. The dance game is perfect for the system’s opening wave, containing all the tap points that made Guitar Hero so successful. Everyone’s danced in a mirror, right? The music was great, the multiplay looked awesome and the whole concept can easily cope with a bit of lag. Excellent stuff.

YourShape impressed for one moment. The lady demoing took off her sweater and the camera mapped the cloth in real-time. We saw the future. The camera saw the cloth. It was a new thing, right there. The game itself looked far more interesting than you might think, containing trippy yoga bits and fascinating full-body mapping.

The Rare content was what you expected it would be. The sports stuff looked like Wii Sports Plus Plus, in a nutshell. There’s nothing wrong with that, and the system needs it, but we’ve seen the concept before and there was no shellshock as a result.

Forza Kinect was shown, but this appeared to focus more on looking at cars rather than driving them, although that was part of the announcement. There was a lengthy showing of Kinect dashboard control, and it was pretty much amazing, even if you do have to say “Xbox” before every command. An ESPN deal was announced in a “comedy fashion” that wasn’t funny. You can’t have everything.

Mattrick announced the 360 Slim at the end, giving a unit to everyone in the crowd. Built-in wifi at the same price as a current model is a significant upgrade, and the casing’s a yummy black. It’s a real shame this leaked the previous day as it took the edge off it, but there was no denying this was a move in the right direction for a machine now five years old and counting.

Lots of boxes and lots of ticks. Mattrick, yet again, had the best exec hair at E3. Some of the casual stuff was too flaky and there was no Kinect price or date, but this was still epic shit. Good kill.

9/10

Pro tip, Sony: shut up. The Sony conference was too long, with Peter Dille and Jack Tretton saying “precision” in relation to Move more than 100,000 times. We get it, already. After seeing Nintendo and Microsoft, Sony’s presentation style just looked dated. While Nintendo was traditional in its approach, its presser was concise and never dull. Microsoft did the right thing by breaking the back of its Kinect reveal in a second event, meaning the main conference rarely lacked pace. Sony, however, tried to cram in too much with too much marketing speak, leaving too many eyes rolling in the crowd.

It was dull for the wrong reasons. PS3 really is coming into its own now, and Sony has so much to talk about and so many exciting incoming products that the run-in to E3 has been dominated by large first-party PS3 titles and the ever-present Move. Killzone 3, LittleBigPlanet 2, InFamous 2 and MotorStorm 3 were all unveiled before the show and rightfully grabbed a large amount of attention. 3D Killzone 3 gameplay footage opened the core offering and looked amazing. That will be a very awesome videogame. There was some more big core showings, with EA announcing exclusive PS3 content for Dead Space 2 and Medal of Honor, both of which were smart signings on Sony’s part. The machine will also get exclusivity on Assassin’s Creed 2: BrotherHood and Mafia II content. All good.

That Portal 2 was coming to PS3 was a real shock, especially as Valve’s Gabe Newell himself walked out on stage to tell the crowd the Sony version will be the best one to buy. Gabe didn’t look very happy about any of it, to be honest. A bit like a dog with a broken leg begging for food. It wasn’t pretty. The game, however, really was. If there really are advantages to owning the PS3 version this is a major Sony coup; don’t be too shocked if a slew of sites name it game of the show.

Gran Turismo 5′s section was disappointing. There was no Kazunori. There wasn’t even any gameplay. There was, however, a date, and we can be thankful for that. Yet another trailer looked amazing, but surely this should have been a proper reveal? It’s one of Sony’s most important games for the entire generation: why aren’t we seeing it as a focus?

The rest of it simply could have been better. The Move stuff was a bit eyebrow-raising. Sorcery was Harry Potter without the Harry Potter. You use the controller like a wand. The EA Tiger Woods demonstration was a golf game. You use the controller as a club. Hilariously, the first swing the guy took with it wasn’t even registered by the camera, which was fairly ironic given all the talk of “precision”. There’s a ton of Move software we didn’t see that’s charming, innovative and even radical, but there was no sign. It was an opportunity missed.

There was a price, though, and that’s a good thing. The $50 for the solus stick got a cheer. The $30 for the other bit got an, “Um.” The bundle prices didn’t get that much of a reaction at all, which is probably why Microsoft didn’t announce the Kinect price. “Kinect is expensive” maybe wasn’t the E3 headline the MS exec team was hoping for.

The Kevin Butler bit was funny. More of that.

Then there was 3D. The team did a good job of talking it up, but it no matter how you look at it you still need a TV upgrade. Thankfully, though, the rewards are there is you do decide to take the plunge. There’s a lot of 3D software coming in the near future, including GT5, MotorStorm, Killzone 3 and more. If you’re going to do it, it’ll be because of PS3.

The PlayStation Plus announcement was just weird. For such an important proposal, Tretton made remarkably little song and dance. There wasn’t even a bulletpoint list of subs features on the screen. If it was easy to forget what you got for your $50 a year when you’re sitting in the E3 press conference audience, how is the consumer supposed to get it? Very odd.

Jaffe and Twisted Metal were wheeled out towards the end, with the “shock” of the announcement more impressive than the game itself. Maybe it’s an American thing.

There were some deafening silences. There was no Ico bundle or PSP2. There was no Last Guardian or Resistance 3. There was no Agent. There was a bit on Home that got Tretton literally laughed at. Why was he talking about the fact Sony had created a virtual representation of its E3 booth on PSN? No one in the audience seemed to know.

Focus on the good stuff next time, Sony. There’s plenty of it. Why include a massive Sorcery demo then gloss over GT5? We’ll never know. And please, in the name of God, keep it shorter. You might want to watch your competitors for pointers on that score.

8/10

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  1. threadzilla

    I disagree….
    1)nintendo
    2)sony
    3)MS

    Seriously microsofts conference was soo boring and all it did was make me realize how much I am not going to buy the kinect. They should have released some new ip or big game franchinse to continue on… instead they made it all about kinect.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. kkzooi123

    The ms pres conference was also too long. They should’ve stopt at the kinect shit.

    Even the Xbox fanboys disagree with this top 3.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Gekidami

    Jornos opinions =/= Gamers opinions.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Syrok

    Lies! Konami won :D

    #4 4 years ago
  5. spiderLAW

    seriously guys?
    1)Sony
    2)Nintendo
    3)Microsoft

    Thats how it should go. 1) Nintendo showed us what we have all been wanting from them. Games. To top it all of they topped it off with the 3DS demonstration with a list of amazing third party developer support for launch titles. 2)Sony was oo long yes, but they gave every gamer what they really want. GAMES! Game after game after game. Not only that, their move demonstrations got me sold on the tech easily. Their conference appealed to casual, core, and middle grounders. Thats exactly waht an E3 conference is for. Its to get gamers wanting to game. and 3) Microshit just showed crap to appeal to the casual gamers. Come on, they were completely gimmicky. Not only were the speakers/demonstrators boring nerds without any real excitement but what they had shown was all flawed, laggy, garbage. They showed 2 games of which we have already seen tons of stuff forGears 3 and Halo Reach. They’re BIGGEST announcement was that Reach had space flight battles. Big friggin deal.

    Pat, oh Pat….So sad.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. JimFear666

    Disagree

    1)Sony
    2)nintendo
    3)microsoft

    Sony had some good surprise in his bag the kevin butler speech was epic and we have now a date for gt5 and they show to the ppl a lot with move and they even gave a price and a date. Nothing more to ask.

    Nintendo was ok, short but ok. They have good game on the pipeline, zelda, metroid, golden eye, donkey kong country but… still the same game over and over, people cry out loud that activision milk all the games they do but when its nintendo… Its ok? (my 2 cents)

    the microsoft conference was straight up boooooooring they started with … Call of duty!This was an epic failure to me. after they talked about games like gow3, fable3, they announced a game from crytek which was ok but then came the horrible 1h15 of casual game at his worst with kinect… It was just horrible to me.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. Mattigan

    Microshit?

    Do I detect a little bias there?

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Will_Hunting

    So now Microsoft’s conference deserves a 9? What a joke.

    Anyway, for me it’s Nintendo first, Sony second and Microsoft a distant third. Their conference was so boring I was on the edge of suicide. Sony on the other hand had plenty of games on show, not to mention Move looks a heck of a lot more interesting that Kinect… and Kevin Butler is DA MAN.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Spartan_God

    This is an accurate list. Sony did show a lot of software, but nearly all of it was already announced or leaked.The new Twisted Metal didn’t look good at all.An although Portal 2 looks great, why was it really that big of an announcement? Portal isn’t appearing for the first time on the PS3, and there were already so many rumours that it would be multi platform.To me, Sorcery was the biggest highlight since im not a big fan of DLC’s which were exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft didn’t really do justice to those of us who wanted new games except for Kingdoms but to me Kinect was pretty awesome.The voice controlled tech was cool but the show stealers were Kinectimals, Forza and Star wars Kinect.The demos for Halo:Reach and to an extent,Gears 3 was quite good. But they did show a lot of junk though.
    Nintendo was the clear winner.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. Robo_1

    MS has a better conference than Sony… WTF.

    MS had sweet fuck all aside from Kinect and wheeling out the old guard of Gears, Halo and Fable, all games we’ve known about for months, yet Sony get labelled with the dull stick for mixing things up with the Kevin Butler segment, megatons like Steam Cloud coming to PS3, and totally new reveals like Twisted Metal.

    I agree their pacing needs sorting, but validating MS’s massive fuck you to their core market by patting them on the back like this is completely… out there.

    Guess them free Xbox’s helped after all. ;)

    #10 4 years ago
  11. KAP

    @10
    YOUR SO RIGHT, those 360 slims defo sweetend the second place for M$. I mean microsoft had a whole conference alone all about kinect then they have a large section on monday again about it too yet Sonys conference was too long?! it was only an extra 20mins.
    MEGATON NEWS: no one can deny that the Gabe newell apperence wasnt the biggest news in E3.
    Microsoft hd the conference everyone expected, COD… HALO… ad a dude dancing with his dumb ass kinect.. not to mention… “skittles… Ooooo skittles… yeah skittles”

    1. Nintendo
    2. Sony
    3. Skittles

    #11 4 years ago
  12. AceTheGamer23

    1)PS3
    2)Xbox360
    3)Wii
    to me nintendo be showing the same games no new IPs or nothing just the remake of games the 3DS is desent but its a handheld,Microsoft was cool but all that dancing lilpop shit and the kinect is only good for your media thats it, the games for it will fail but honestly the games just to causual ps3 won they was about business and show off hardcore and causual and the 3D Technology and the ps3 can do alot it likes the best of both world watch my words and another thing people with the old xbox360 gone be mad when the get the 3rings of death playin kinect

    #12 4 years ago
  13. DUFFKING

    Didn’t take long for team retard to start using the word ‘bias’ did it?

    I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS SO THEREFORE YOUR OPINIONS ARE WRONG/BIASED

    #13 4 years ago
  14. Kerplunk

    If I were the cynical type, I’d wonder if this article wasn’t solely produced to provoke a reaction from readers.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. Redh3lix

    LOL, I was going to mention the free XBox 360′s aswell. No better way to grab favouritism than hand out free gaming hardware. :D

    If we’re talking “surprises” I would say Sony came first. Gabe Newal of ALL people walking onto the Sony stage FFS… NOBODY expected that. I’m assuming VG247 editors don’t own PS3′s otherwise you would have realised just how much the Sony community despised him? Kevin Butler brought some humour to the conference, something which I haven’t seen in any E3 show.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. Freek

    A problem both MS and Sony have is that they decided to use their cutting edge “innovative” technology to just make Wii Sports again.
    A game everybody already played on the Wii.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. distraet

    I disagree, expecially with the scores. E3 was a massive disappointment this year with no big surprises other than Portal 2 and Steam Cloud, which is amazing. But Nintendo did do the best job overall.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. ExclusivesMostly

    Was this the view of all the VG247 staff or just yours Pat?

    I don’t agree but to each their own.

    @9: Microsoft did the DLC deal with COD (early access)
    Sony on the other hand gives you exclusive extra content for the same price of the regular games. Most notable: PS3 Medal of Honor comes with 2 games, MOH 2010 and a remastered HD version of the past hit MOH. Dead Space 2 also comes with Dead Space extraction which is PS Move compatible. Big difference!

    #18 4 years ago
  19. yacaman

    Dude. Seriously.

    Nintendo: 1. 3DS, but will this give the games PS3 is giving? or PSP for that matter?
    4 years later they finally give us Metroid, Zelda and King Kong, so whats
    new. Im still seeing the same PS2 graphics on that thing.

    XBOX: Kinect is the future of home electronics and not gaming. How many exclusives???
    ALmost none.

    PS3: Wii HD which common its what we really want if you want motion control.
    A Whole bunch of new exclusives, even the un-announced that everyone knows they
    are coming ICO, UNcharted 3 etc.. You cant put all your cards out immediately.

    Great games, blue ray, free online play which works, now motion control, more games,
    more games, more games, more games, o yeah and Kevin Butler.

    So here is my verdict.

    1. PS3: Blue Ray, Most variety of great games, and Wii HD
    2. Microsoft because they have awesome games and online community.
    3. Nintendo. I will always have MArio Kart, Zelda and MArio in my heart and
    at this rate so will my grandchildren.

    #19 4 years ago
  20. Blerk

    Nice write-up, Pat – can’t say I completely agree, but them’s opinions, eh? :-D

    For me Nintendo were the huge surprise this year. A perfectly pitched show with game after game after game, most of which we’d never even suspected were coming. Almost exactly what I wanted (and didn’t get) from the other two.

    Sony were fairly dull and safe throughout, as were Microsoft in the first half. But their second half was just a knuckle-gnawing disaster.

    8/10 for Ninty, 6/10 for Sony, 4/10 for Microsoft. Must try harder, hi-defs.

    #20 4 years ago
  21. Robo_1

    Gametrailers have put together a must see collection of all the mis-steps and low points of E3, good stuff. :)

    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-e3-2010/700825

    #21 4 years ago
  22. Filofax

    Good write up, I had Microsoft in last with Nintendo and Sony sharing the top spot.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. SniperWolf

    1)Sony
    2)nintendo
    v
    v
    v
    v
    3)microsoft

    #23 4 years ago
  24. Erthazus

    I absolutely disagree with the points system especially.

    You just realize that this show is about CONTENT?
    + Microsoft didn’t had any hurrah for it’s Halo game, they just showed hardcore games for 20 minutes like: We must show them fast and we must show everything else because it’s much more important.

    I’m not the biggest HALO fan. But where is the last HURRAH for Bungie? Last Halo bungie was like: Oh well, it’s another shooter
    They didn’t got the chance to make fans of the series happy like: Oh fuck YES! I LOVE BUNGIE!

    Fast pace it’s not always good.

    where is SOFTWARE? It’s a bunch of WII Sport titles and thats important because E3 is all about N E X T G E N E R A T I O N SOFTWARE, HARDWARE.

    Completely disagree with this opinion.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. djhsecondnature

    Sorry Pat but what the hell were you smoking?

    Sony and Nintendo are interchangeable at the top depending on who you are, but Microsoft were a comfortable and distance third place. They showed nothing hugely new or impressive aside the new Xbox 360, which they decided to gloss over for some reason.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Raining_Upwards

    @7 This thread will attract fanboys to it like flies to shit.

    Don’t be surprised to see the same blinkered opinions here that you’ve seen elsewhere.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJXaKhn4xyU

    #26 4 years ago
  27. 2plus2equals5

    3ds is cool, but alone can it make win nintendo?
    When i saw the nintendo conference i said “wow another mario” “wow another zelda” “wow another metroid” “wow another donkey kong” etc.
    Only mickey surprised me, to me zelda looks like a mediocre action adventure and 007 a mediocre fps.
    I think that the nintendo conference was incredible only to nintendo fans, a good one to the others.
    Sony conference was really long, but full of things, a lot of games for ps3 and psp,sony demostrated that move is not a danger for hardcore gamers. No surprises but a very good conference.
    I didn’ t see ms conference, but i read about it.
    So:
    1)sony
    2)nintendo
    3)ms

    #27 4 years ago
  28. Bulk Slash

    I can see where Pat’s coming from, I was very frustrated watching Sony’s press conference and listening to them waffling on and on about numbers, sales figures and marketing bullshit.

    I think in terms of games announced, Sony probably had the better line up compared to Microsoft (although of all the games announced I’m most excited about Gears 3), but Microsoft didn’t waste time screening endless lifestyle videos like Sony did.

    Microsoft’s conference became a big fail as soon as the Kinect shit was rolled out. Sony by contrast didn’t show many dull games, but they wasted so much time bullshitting, rather than letting the games speak for themselves.

    Overall I’d say Nintendo came first, and MS/Sony were joint second. If they’d left Kinect out, MS would have been an easy second place.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. mojo

    lol @ opinion.
    MS was nearly as disappointing as nintendo last year.

    did the free 360 somewhat for that score?
    lmao, srsly guys, how can u be so blind?

    Edit: i see the vast majority of comments say the same.
    Rethink anyone?

    actualyl, for me this is a massive NEGATIVE in ur reputation. Id never expected u to be so non-gaming. MS was a massive letdown for gamers (niothing besides the usual 3. ok and that crytek thing). Sad how u appreciate this.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. asdfasdf

    lol ms got 9/10

    #30 4 years ago
  31. NinjaMidget

    I have to agree with this, even though I am biased towards sony! Looking at the Nintendo conference, they announced a lot of old classics and the 3DS seems to work well.

    Sony announced all of their big exclusives a wee bit earlier and so they hadn’t much clout. Everyone knew Twisted Metal was coming when (pachter outing it, and jaffe with his weak denials).

    There was also too much waffling in the Sony press conference, far too much dialogue about how the PS3 is awesome…I know that already! Microsofts conference was good because it had no waffling, straight to the point. I don’t really like any of the X-box exclusives except for gears but it’s out for the pc anyway so not really exclusive.

    So in short: no waffling + secret sxclusive reveals + Kevin Butler = best conference ever! Sony should probably win based on the brilliance of Kevin Butler however! :)

    #31 4 years ago
  32. JonFE

    I’m with Bulk Slash on this. For me 3DS was the crown jewel of the show, with Nintendo being confident enough to pass it on to attendees to see with their own eyes (pun intended) whether it works.

    As for both Sony and Microsoft, I know I’ll enjoy the hardcore games they showed, but most of them had already been announced, while their eagerness to push their motion controllers as something new and exciting fell on my deaf ears, because frankly I’ve seen it all before with the Wii.

    Finally, Kinect may get some potential, as long as a talented team finds some truly amazing way to utilise it, but, in all seriousness, MS should have stuck with Natal as a name…

    #32 4 years ago
  33. AHA-Lambda

    MS? 9/10?

    Wake up and smell the coffee please that crap was WORSE than wii music in 2008!

    #33 4 years ago
  34. Blerk

    Mmm… coffee!

    #34 4 years ago
  35. Aimless

    I found Sony’s conference to be the most disappointing, but I’m surprised anyone would rate Microsoft’s above it. The former might have been overly long and missed numerous opportunities, but I came out of the latter with little to no new information. Microsoft might as well have spent 30 minutes talking about ostrich farming for all the relevance their presentation had to me.

    Overall Nintendo comes out on top, though. They were solid on all fronts and buoyed by fairly low expectations.

    #35 4 years ago
  36. polygem

    nice discussion. i agree that nintendo won. but ms and sony share the 2. place this year imo. ms gave too much time to kinect and the casual which made me as a so called hc gamer worried a bit about new gaming content for me. some parts in the presentation were uber annoying like the girl with the donald duck voice – presenting – tadaaa – the voice chat – quack quack – hell that was a pain. there only was one title i didn´t know about already (codename: kingdom – crytek). the new 360 was a surprise – there have been rumors – and it was expected – but i was surprisded when they really unveiled it at E3 and i like that machine – a lot. presenting new hardware at E3 is always a win imo (eventhough kinect and move are an exception from this)- i was hoping for killer news like FFXIII versus on 360 – new handheld plans etc. but nope – just lurring the new casulas to jump in and sequels to some AAA ip´s. not enough to make me wow…sony took indeed too much time for their presentation. imo the kevin butler part wasn´t that funny at all – it was annoying. a desperate and cheap try to lick the asses of their hc crowd – i didn´t buy it but it worked for many apparently. the commercials with the kid joining sony was a complete rip off of the TV show 30 Rock – kevin butler as jack and the kid as tracy. just stolen like the move is stolen from the wii. cheap again – shows that sony is good for duplications but bad for innovations. twisted metal looked ultra lame. move looked just as lame as kinect. but they had some great titlels shown. 3D on TV´s is still too early i´d say – will need 3 to 5 years to reach the mass market. so sony again tries to be super techy and cool but they always seem to loose the connection to the real world. i´m interested in 3d, no question. but i won´t buy a 3d tv for some years to come. just becaise the tech isnt there yet and the price is just not justyfiing buying one. right now you have to choose between lower res and 3d or full res and no 3d – i´ll go for full res. gabe newell was indeed a little surprise. portal on the ps3 as the best version is cool but i personally don´t care that much about it, eventhough i enjoyed portal. no psp2. no real surprises. very mediocore.

    #36 4 years ago
  37. James91

    9/10 for Microsoft?! NINE OUT OF TEN?!

    What the hell conference did you guys attend? It was dire beyond words. Started off OK with Gears but once Kinect appeared, shit hit the fan, it was embarrassing to watch.

    Seems those free 360′s must’ve went down a treat…

    I do agree however that Nintendo were the best of the 3 at E3, games like Epic Mickey and Donkey Kong look awesome and the 3DS looks like it’ll be simply fantastic.

    #37 4 years ago
  38. Panou

    Microsoft failed at all levels during this E3, and their conference was one of the most boring I’ve ever seen. That’s a fact. Plus, Kinect is the best/worst joke they could have done. Fortunately there was a quite convincing gameplay demo of Halo Reach, and a good trailer of Rising, because Fable III trailer was… useless (and so was the Crytek game’s one). On the other hand, the new Xbox 360 was not a surprise, but it still a good news!

    Sony conference was disappointing because we KNOW that they have plenty of games (and exclusives) to show, but they didn’t… and I don’t know why exactly. The Last Guardian, the new Insomniac, Journey, PixelJunk Shooter 2, The Agency, Agent (ok Rockstar wasn’t at E3, but I don’t care), etc etc.
    Anyway, they still had some good news (GT 5 release date, inFamous 2, Portal 2 + Steam, Move seems really efficient…), but it could have been soooo much better!

    Finally, Nintendo had the greatest E3 event since many years! Ok, no new IPs, but loads of highly anticipated “old” IPs such as Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Golden Sun…, some other great surprises (I admit it, I even enjoyed the Wii Party game =/ ), and 3DS!! It was not a real surprise, but it’s still great and the hardware seems really strong, with an amazing line-up from my point of view.

    I can’t believe Microsoft get a 9 out of 10 in this news… for me, without any doubt, the results are:

    1) Nintendo – 9 out of 10 (I just miss Pikmin!! =P )
    2) Sony – 6.5/7 out of 10 (where were all the games that we expected and should have been there??)
    3) Microsoft – 4 out of 10 (are you serious?!? Give us some real games as you usually do!)

    #38 4 years ago
  39. The Hindle

    Pat loves his 360 slim thats why he thinks its better :D even pacther in the bonus round said it was genius giving that away free it saved them the bad press as they effectivly bought them off.

    #39 4 years ago
  40. mington

    personally i hated all of it, apart from Reggie’s face being set on fire

    #40 4 years ago
  41. mington

    oh and…… WON MIRRION TROOBS \o/

    #41 4 years ago
  42. mington

    LONG MAY HE REIGNNNNNNN

    ok it weren’t that bad, i just expected/wanted more/different stuff

    #42 4 years ago
  43. The Hindle

    Same here it was all shit for me :(

    #43 4 years ago
  44. Blerk

    90% of the best games from E3 weren’t at the press conferences. There was some fabulous-looking stuff once you got away from the waffleathons.

    #44 4 years ago
  45. The Hindle

    True but it was all stuff we knew was going to be good, there were no suprises like last year.

    #45 4 years ago
  46. cookiejar

    Not a snowflakes chance in hell were Microsoft second. One of the most dullest, un-impressive pressers ever, that only cheered up people in the crowd because they bagged a free console.

    Nintendo> Sony > Microsoft.

    EA were actually almost better than all of them.

    #46 4 years ago
  47. Robo_1

    Totally agree with that, I thought EA’s no thrills, “here are ten awesome games” approach was the best thing in E3. The new Need For Speed and Bulletstorm were absolute show stealers.

    #47 4 years ago
  48. koopa

    Just because Sony was too long (lol), Microsoft was too boring and Nintendo was pretty good. Nintendo, Sony and them Microsoft

    #48 4 years ago
  49. DrDamn

    Nintendo were streets ahead of the other two, with the order of MS & Sony is really down to your personal preferences. What’s a bit shocking about this article is the points given to MS & Sony. They both had solid but unspectacular showings 6′s at best. Lets get some perspective, Nintendo showed brand new very well received hardware for the first time and a slew of big name games for the new and existing consoles – MS were a point behind that? Really?

    #49 4 years ago
  50. get2sammyb

    Nintendo was by far the best. Sony need to pace better but, when you break it down, they have a HELL of a lot to cover. Moreso than the other two companies. Perhaps, you can put that down to a problem with Sony’s philosophy. I don’t think so – I love how Sony has its fingers in as many pies as possible.

    #50 4 years ago
  51. G1GAHURTZ

    Aren’t we all winners?

    #51 4 years ago
  52. Blerk

    Yes. Apart from the losers.

    #52 4 years ago
  53. Dralen

    Well I enjoyed Sony’s Conference the most, but that’s only because I have no interest in what Nintendo have to offer whatsoever.

    The Move demonstration totally had me sold and the games were looking brilliant. When Kevin Butler hit the stage that was just the funniest bit of E3 for me and stole the show.

    Microsoft’s conference didn’t do anything for me. The only good thing was “Metal Gear Rising” trailer, but that’s a multi-platform title and i’ll probably be getting for the PS3 now since Konami have been hinting at a possible Move compatibility. The Kinect stuff was boring and didn’t sell me at all.

    #53 4 years ago
  54. theevilaires

    Garratt you XBOT you know very well SONY kicked every ones ass. The Gabe Newell appearance alone was big enough to take it.

    I just saw the whole thing yesterday for the first time BTW and all I have to say is….

    “Who wants to pretend their hand is a gun,what is this third grade….pew :D pew :D pew :D pew :D “! KEVIN BUTLER FTW!

    #54 4 years ago
  55. G1GAHURTZ

    It was all a bit uninteresting for me…

    For me personally, the best things were:

    A new Test Drive Unlimited 2 trailer! Woo hoo!

    The ‘potential’ of the 3DS (they didn’t show much of any games that would make me consider it a day 1 buy)

    MGR

    Gears 3

    That’s about it.

    Move, Kinect, and whatever else was there that I can’t remember could have been news that I’d skip on any other day of the year.

    The Zelda technical problems totally ruined any hype I may have had for the game, too.

    #55 4 years ago
  56. Moonwalker1982

    Sony didn’t win at all imo. Nintendo did, then Sony and last Microsoft. I’m a big Xbox guy, but their show was a big let down.

    #56 4 years ago
  57. Psychotext

    Nintendo won (easily)… but how on earth you have MS in second place is beyond me. I thought their presentation was awful.

    #57 4 years ago
  58. theevilaires

    Tell me how Nintendo won how? really explain that please.

    #58 4 years ago
  59. Gheritt White

    New hardware that outputs in 3D without the need for special glasses. That’s a bit of a show stealer in anybody’s book. Plus, a whole slew of proper games aimed squarely at Nintendo gamers, rather than Wii-owners.

    #59 4 years ago
  60. theevilaires

    Just because they didn’t embarrass themselves this year they won?

    because they launched another damn gameboy they won?

    Reggie cried the whole damn show, Miyomoto looked goofy than ever and Zelda was not impressive, and the DS3 omg great way to say we need to keep releasing hardware every year because the PSP is kicking our ass every month in our home land.

    Most of the games they showed you guys won’t play more than an hour before saying i’m tired of this. I need my HD graphics. I need KZ3…I need more precision (MOVE)…I need great online play.

    Stop being sour because M$ show was shit and you had all your chips on them and you crapped out. SONY took it by miles (easily).

    #60 4 years ago
  61. daytripper

    3ds made it a nintendo win for me

    #61 4 years ago
  62. mathare92

    I watched all three live and I have to say:
    1. Nintendo by a mile.
    2. Sony (Yea it was long but there was a lot of solid content there + GT5 release date + Kevin Butler’s speech.)
    3. Microsoft (Apart from the Crytek exclusive and Rising gameplay(which was awesome) not much else new. Yea,Kinect doesn’t exist to me.)

    #62 4 years ago
  63. The Hindle

    Looks at great online play and Sony in same sentance, rubs eyes looks again holy shit :D

    #63 4 years ago
  64. Anders

    @58: By presenting a new, innovative console with a kick-ass lineup and six new titles?

    #64 4 years ago
  65. Psychotext

    Because the games they announced looked great (aside from broken Zelda) and you can’t beat a hardware reveal…

    …especially one that comes with a couple of hundred random models. :D

    #65 4 years ago
  66. The Hindle

    I bet Pat would have loved it if one of those models were given away :D

    #66 4 years ago
  67. Blerk

    So basically you’re saying that Nintendo didn’t win because they didn’t show PS3 games, TEA? :-D

    #67 4 years ago
  68. Anders

    “and the DS3 omg great way to say we need to keep releasing hardware every year because the PSP is kicking our ass every month in our home land.”

    Yeah, except it isn’t.

    #68 4 years ago
  69. Erthazus

    @Anders, i’m hyped about 3DS, but it’s too early to judge 3DS to be a kick ass device.

    you know, it’s always like that. Who will present absolutely NEW hardware wins E3.

    3DS is still a big ghost with great 3rd party support, but we didn’t actually see decent games on it, except of screenshots and concept art.

    For example: I was so excited that new Metal Gear Solid was on stage. It’s like WOW, Metal Gear: Snake Eater 3D? New Metal Gear?

    In the end it’s just a PS2 port with few enchantments. There are a lot of mystery behind that handheld.

    I’m still sold because of Ocarina remake, but thats still not announced officially and we don’t know about it nothing.

    #69 4 years ago
  70. cookiejar

    Thank hell E3 is only once a year.

    #70 4 years ago
  71. Psychotext

    @Anders: Psh, says you. NDS has only sold 1.01m so far this year in Japan, PSP has sold a mighty 1.03m so far this year in Japan.

    That looks like an ass kicking to me. :P

    (Don’t ask what the lifetime sales are btw ;) )

    #71 4 years ago
  72. Blerk

    The main problem with both Sony and Microsoft’s shows (aside from the motion stuff) was a complete lack of ‘surprise’. Pretty much everything on show we already knew about and had seen a fair amount of prior to the conferences. Yes, some of it looked very good, but it looked very good weeks ago as well.

    Nintendo pitched it absolutely right. You might not have been interested in many of the games, but you certainly hadn’t seen most of them before. And just when you were getting bored of a particular game? They had another one. And you hadn’t seen that one either.

    Now that is how to do a show.

    #72 4 years ago
  73. Raining_Upwards

    @70 No arguments here.

    #73 4 years ago
  74. Erthazus

    @72 Except that Sony had some Twisted Metal and Portal 2 with Gabe. Thats huge if you ask me.

    Microsoft had… a little big surprise like…. Kingdom from CRYTEK.

    #74 4 years ago
  75. Blerk

    They might’ve been big news, but they weren’t ‘new’ stuff. Portal 2 was a huge steal and was probably the most WTF moment of the whole week, but we’d all already seen the game. Twisted Metal had been so leaked it felt like a re-announcement.

    Microsoft’s Crytek thing was just silly. What’s the point in announcing something if you’re not even going to tell us a tiny bit about what it is? It was almost as bad as Sony’s Agent ‘reveal’ from last year.

    #75 4 years ago
  76. Anders

    “i’m hyped about 3DS, but it’s too early to judge 3DS to be a kick ass device.”

    I didn’t say the 3DS is kick-ass. I said that the line-up is kick-ass.

    “I’m still sold because of Ocarina remake, but thats still not announced officially and we don’t know about it nothing.”

    It is official.
    http://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/16268409393

    “Psh, says you. NDS has only sold 1.01m so far this year in Japan, PSP has sold a mighty 1.03m so far this year in Japan.”

    I rest my case :)

    #76 4 years ago
  77. Elven_Star

    I’m surprised the editor has found MS conference even worth mentioning. Hate to be an Xbox owner.

    #77 4 years ago
  78. Robo_1

    I do agree that surprises are what make great E3 pressers, and indeed there wasn’t as much of that as I’d have liked from anyone really.

    Sony were hardly revealing big name title after big name title, but given that they spent the three months prior announcing huge exclusive titles coming to the system, I figure they’re owed a bit of slack, and they did at least announce one big new title with Twisted Metal.

    Even with all that though, they managed the only total surprise announcement of the event with Gabe “even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a ‘do over’” Newel, endorsing PS3 as not only having the superior version of Portal 2 headed to it (which also must mean that Source has now been ported by Valve themselves) but going further and praising Sony for having the right attitude in making PS3 less of a closed platform and allowing Steam Cloud to be a part of Portal 2 for PS3.

    That was unquestionably a big announcement, maybe not in terms of big game reveals, but anyone who follows video game news will appreciate what a huge coup it was for Sony to get that sort of endorsement from one of their most outspoken critics. It also means that 360 has lost another avenue of exclusive gaming content, and with MS’s rather modest first party support, that’s really going to sting.

    Yeah, I’d certainly give Nintendo the prize this year with their amazing 3DS reveal and string of classic title updates, Sony get a comfortable second spot whilst MS trail at a distant third for their complete and total abandoning of the very users who got them where they are. It’s not as if Halo, Gears and Fable don’t look like great games, but really, more Halo, more Gears and more Fable, as awesome as they all are how many times can MS wheel them out as their big game announcements before apathy sets in?

    I love this site and I know Pat’s a real games enthusiast, but for the life of me I can’t find any rationale behind giving MS the nod over Sony this year.

    #78 4 years ago
  79. Gadzooks!

    Objectively Nintendo had a very easy win this year. I’d say Ninty got 8 or 9 out of 10 but the other two I’d peg at around 5/10.

    Both MS and Sony were trying very hard to be Nintendo, but Nintendo were the most Nintendo of the lot this year.

    There was enough good stuff being show from Ninty to make me consider getting a Wii again, or maybe a 3DS.

    Pretty much all MS and Sony showed was casual rubbish, unwanted 3D being forced on us and sequels.

    Personally I thought MS just about had the best of the HD bunch with Reach, Gears, Fable and an upgraded slimmed console. Their casual stuff was awful though, truly awful, and overshadowed the good things they brought.

    Sony had LBP 2, some HD remakes of game that should really already be backward compatible, a bunch of casual/3D stuff which I have no interest in and a bunch of sequels to games I didnt like the first time around so not much of interest for me there. I was hoping for a first showing of Demons Souls 2.

    #79 4 years ago
  80. Blerk

    Actually, did Valve ever give any details about how the Portal 2 port was being handled? On the night they didn’t actually say that they were doing it themselves, although I presumed that they would be given the pitching of the announcement. Did they ever clarify it officially?

    #80 4 years ago
  81. cookiejar

    @80 I’m pretty sure they will be handling all versions, especially the PS3 version I would imagine if the Steamworks stuff is being implimented. Valve will publish online, and EA will publish all retail versions.

    #81 4 years ago
  82. Alakratt

    I don’t think you can call a journalist someone that has his/her opinion bought. You know, kinda like M$ did with the 360 S give-away to the press. In a way, this is too sad, but it also reflects the bias this site has agaisnt the PS3. Thanks Pat for showing your true colors.

    1)Nintendo
    2)Sony
    3)MS

    #82 4 years ago
  83. Anders

    Yeah, any journalist who has a different opinion than you have must’ve been bought, right?

    #83 4 years ago
  84. Alakratt

    @83

    Oh great, typical lemme-get-back-at-him comments. Go away please.

    #84 4 years ago
  85. dirigiblebill

    “I don’t think you can call a journalist someone that has his/her opinion bought. You know, kinda like M$ did with the 360 S give-away to the press.”

    What do you think is more important to the average editor – the continuing respect and therefore patronage of his/her readers or $200-250 of 5-year-old hardware? Put that another way – exactly how fucking stupid do you think Pat is? :)

    #85 4 years ago
  86. Telepathic.Geometry

    If PS3 Portal 2 is going to be the best according to Gabe, then I think it must be because of Move support. Nothing else makes sense to me.

    #86 4 years ago
  87. djhsecondnature

    @85 – “What do you think is more important to the average editor”

    Hits is quite an important factor to some…I bet this has drawn a lot.

    #87 4 years ago
  88. Blerk

    @86, He actually said it was the best “because of the Steamworks features”. Not really understanding what those are makes it difficult for me to judge whether I believe him or not. :-)

    #88 4 years ago
  89. DGOJG

    “Nintendo: 10/10
    Microsoft: 9/10
    Sony: 8/10″

    Ah ha ha ha ha! That’s a good o..oh wait you guys were being serious?

    #89 4 years ago
  90. Rudderless

    I’ve seen plenty of accusations of the press being bought by MS’s eleventh-hour giveaway, which is hugely depressing, and slightly worrying that consumers think journalists can be bought in this way.

    The consensus of pretty much everyone in LA was that Sony’s conference was a turgid borefest. MS might have spent a lot of time showing off Kinect, but by that stage many journos will have already had a bit of hands-on time with the tech and known that it works pretty well and is actually a lot of fun. It’s only the gamers who haven’t used it that seemed outraged by the casual content of MS’s press briefing, particularly given the completely core-centric opening salvo.

    Sure, there wasn’t much genuinely NEW at MS’s conference, but it had the decency to be brisk and entertaining. The best bit of Sony’s was Kevin Butler, and that was self-indulgent in the extreme, given that it’s a global stage and few people outside North America will have been in on the joke.

    #90 4 years ago
  91. djhsecondnature

    @90 – Well that’s interesting, especially as there was a lot more noise coming from the crowd during Sony’s conference than during Microsoft’s…

    Microsoft’s conference was far from entertaining, and the best bit from Sony was certainly Gabe Newell.

    #91 4 years ago
  92. Blerk

    the best bit from Sony was certainly Gabe Newell

    And herein lies the problem.

    #92 4 years ago
  93. theevilaires

    you guys are crazy. 3ds was something we all knew about months ago. Why was it such a big surprise to you all I have no idea. Garratt only put M$ higher than SONY cause he got a free new XBOX (FACT).

    1.No one expected Gabe Newell backing the PS3 and having steamworks integrated with PSN for Portal 2.

    2.DeadSpace2 and MOH will be the best versions to get on PS3 with full bonus games attached.

    3.MOVE and HD3D were great (so what you need glasses)

    4.SONY has better games than Zelda,Mario Basketball(OMFG not another Mario sport title), and Kid Icarus. They have Socom4 (full MOVE support) GT5 (full 3D support) inFAMOUS2 (full 3D support) KZ3 (full MOVE and 3D support) that heros game with Jak,Ratchet,and Sly, Sly cooper HD Remix Pack, Twisted Metal,MotorStorm 3D, LBP (make any fucking game you want with full MOVE and 3D support kills anything Nintendo or M$ can offer period!) and that’s all just first party.

    5. They have a slew of great 3rd party games that may be in 3D as well like Dead Space which makes the game more tense and scary, NFS may be in 3D, along with possible updates for others.

    6. PSN is still free XBOTS!

    7. Exclusive Betas only on PSN

    8. Awesome PSP games like Patapon 3, Ace Combat! Joint Assault, and a brand new marketing campaign for PSP that I think will be great “Step Yo Game Up” which mainly targets inner city youths and teens who don’t want to play kiddy gameboy games anymore. (Time to grow up seriously)

    9. The MOVE software line up looks better than any other motion control base games from other consoles with Sorcery for MOVE leading the pack and looking very cool,fun and different.

    10. Oh and did I mention my man, the one and only, Kevin “pew pew pew” Butler!

    “Who wants to pretend their hand is a gun,what is this third grade….pew :D pew :D pew :D pew :D “!

    He bought the comedy side of the show creating a perfect blend of greatness and epicness (not a word :P )securing the win for SONY! :)

    11. (honorable mentions) SONY key speakers like Peter Dille were better dressed than Reggie and that douce from M$. That suit he was wearing was very nice I have to say :D

    I’m not being a fanboy I’m stating facts. Nothing I’ve said was a lie so don’t start that fanboy flame shit.

    #93 4 years ago
  94. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Blerk: Oh really? I thought he was saying that the PS3 hardware was the reason it would be best. Actually, PA’s Tycho had a lot to say about that Steamworks announcement. He reckoned it was the biggest news of the show if I remember rightly…

    #94 4 years ago
  95. Telepathic.Geometry

    @theevilaires: You for real?

    #95 4 years ago
  96. djhsecondnature

    @92 – Are you kidding? Not only was it a huge deal for Sony but a big statement in the industry. For a someone as vocal as Gabe was about the PS3, to then come out and admit he was wrong is a great sign of maturity. It’s just a same that lots of gamers aren’t the same.

    If you consider Portal 2 going multiplatform as ‘not a big deal’ then I would advise you to reassess your expectations.

    #96 4 years ago
  97. Anders

    “I’m not being a fanboy I’m stating facts. Nothing I’ve said was a lie so don’t start that fanboy flame shit.”

    :D

    #97 4 years ago
  98. Gadzooks!

    @93

    That’s possibly the most fanboy thing I’ve ever read. I think I even detected rage tears in that post. :D

    Oh, and you really shouldnt use the word ‘FACT’ anymore, as you clearly don’t know what it means. Here’s a clue though.. It does not mean ‘OPINION’, ‘PREFERENCE’ or ‘BIASED PERSPECTIVE’.

    #98 4 years ago
  99. Rudderless

    @90 – Sony invites fanboy bloggers, hence the additional noise. Even the non-event announcements got whoops from various quarters.

    Portal 2 hitting PS3 was an unexpected surprise, but it says something that Sony took the time out to announce a *marketing campaign*.

    #99 4 years ago
  100. Gadzooks!

    @96

    Portal 2 was always going to be multiplatform, just like the original Portal was.

    Gabe was pimping his online service Steamworks, that’s all. Valve are making moves on infrastructure these days, more than software.

    #100 4 years ago
  101. Robo_1

    “I’ve seen plenty of accusations of the press being bought by MS’s eleventh-hour giveaway, which is hugely depressing, and slightly worrying that consumers think journalists can be bought in this way.”

    That, or maybe many of the journalists you’re talking about were too caught up in the bravado and spectacle of it all to take stock of what gamers actually care about.

    Of all the forums I visit, it’s MS who were slammed the hardest for their dreadful showing. People sitting at home watching the conference cared only about what was announced, and as evidenced by the backlash in the comments posted here, MS did the worst job of the three.

    If as you say many journalists in LA were seriously more impressed with MS’s offering than Sony’s, then there appears to be quite a serious disconnect between gamer and game journalist, and that should be far more worrying than any jokes (and that’s all most of them are) about MS buying off the press.

    #101 4 years ago
  102. djhsecondnature

    @100 – No it wasn’t. Valve’s Doug Lombardi confirmed the game was due for PC and Xbox 360. That’s why it coming the PlayStation 3 was a big deal.

    #102 4 years ago
  103. Alakratt

    @90

    You know what dude? You’re absolutely right! Because buying off a journo’s opinion has NEVER happened in ANY INDUSTRY! Right? How can people even THINK of accusing someone (and the site) that has been accused of favoring the 360 many times of this? IMPOSSIBLE! But hey! Enjoy your new overheating hardware! (just read the reports online on that)

    http://gamersyndrome.com/2010/xbox-360/xbox-360-slim-overheating-issues-already-appearing/

    http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?40674-Xbox-360-Slim-Overheating-Issues-Already-Discovered

    http://www.gbgamer.net/2010/06/20/xbox-360-slim-overheating-problems/

    But better yet, here’s a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu0mnpbFMt4&feature=player_embedded

    http://www.systemwars.com/forums/showthread.php?74867-Xbox-fanboy-experiences-360-Slim-overheating-warns-others

    *waits for xbots to say that these were all fake and defend MS WITH THEIR LIFES!*

    #103 4 years ago
  104. deskpro2k3

    vg247 needs to hire a new journalist. you disappoint me for the last time Garratt.

    #104 4 years ago
  105. StolenGlory

    I’m sorry I can’t stay quiet any longer regarding this retard anymore.

    @93 What the fuck are you on. Honestly?

    ‘I’m not being a fanboy I’m stating facts. Nothing I’ve said was a lie so don’t start that fanboy flame shit.’

    You hypocritical fuck. Your entire post prior to that comment was nothing but fanboy bile mired in a thick layer of stupidity topped off with a nice bit of asshole dressing.

    Learn to spell.
    Learn to use grammar.
    Learn not to be a stupid fuckmuppet.

    Do those three things and maybe, just maybe, you might do something worthwhile in life.

    Until then, please refrain from posting in this, or any other thread.

    Thanks in advance.

    #105 4 years ago
  106. Dralen

    I just don’t get why everyone loves Nintendo so much. I’ve tried every one of their consoles and handhelds, but it always ends up the same thing, me selling it off again.

    #106 4 years ago
  107. Alakratt

    @105

    Dude, TEA’s made an opinion. ONE’S OPINION will not change anything. If it made you THAT angry, then that must mean that you actually believe what he says it’s true, can’t accept it and and are pissed about it…extremely. Just learn to accept that Sony kicked ass, MS doesn’t have the same pull as it did in the past years, and that you will be getting a new RROD (or GROD if you own an S model) soon. And like you, he can write whatever the fuck he wants!

    And as always, have a nice day xbot! hahahahah!!!

    #107 4 years ago
  108. Rudderless

    @101 – But the journalists are reporting on what they’ve played. Gamers are complaining about what they’ve seen. That’s a key difference, particularly in the case of Kinect. I fully expect a lot of gamers will change their minds when they actually experience the thing.

    The thing about certain gamers is that they’re incredibly closed-minded to motion controls of any kind. Not all gamers, obviously. And journalists have to take into consideration that the less-vocal majority might well find Kinect to be to their tastes. Hence the seeming disconnect between forum and journalist responses to the MS presser.

    #108 4 years ago
  109. StolenGlory

    @107 ‘Xbot’? :) You are a funny customer aren’t you?

    ‘If it made you THAT angry, then that must mean that you actually believe what he says it’s true, can’t accept it and and are pissed about it…extremely.’

    Oh and how do you know this? Why does that ‘MUST’ mean that I believe what he says is true? Secondly, you are making some stupid generalisations and assumptions about what systems I own, which i’m not going to justify one way or another to your puny intellect.

    Go troll elsewhere nuthugger.

    #109 4 years ago
  110. OlderGamer

    Ok, really?

    I thought this was a horrible E3.

    I expected as much going in.

    This was more about tech I won’t use and don’t want then it was games I actualy care to play.

    I think the industry desperatly needs a reduction in price points. From expensive controlers to HDDs to games to DLC to the systems themselves. Got none of that.

    I think Move and Kinect are a gimmick filled joke. So the “fun” is in the doing not just the game? Yea no thanks, I already don’t play waggle on the Wii.

    3D?

    No freaken way. I now have a HD TV in each room that we have a TV(cept one). There is no way I am buying a new TV. When I have to replace my main TV, I might pick one up that has 3D, if it isn’t going to gouge me for the privilage. But it won’t be anytime soon.

    3DS?

    Thats a hand held right? Yea, um, no thanks been there done that and already have a couple handhelds that neither I nor my family uses.

    In the end I saw VERY little that I liked. I saw expensive motion controls, weary 3D, all of which I see as gimmicks. I saw sequels of games that didn’t need sequels. Most of what i saw from the console side of the industry tells me that i will be doing more PC gaming in my future.

    PS:
    Because it is all the rage.

    I give Nintendo the win. I think they showed the best games.

    I give Sony a close second. Nothing stood out, but nothing was horrible.

    MS, in my mind was a distant thrid. They just had a bad show. No new games, lots of sequels, lots of Kinect. Not a lot of interest to me.

    Out of /10?

    Nintendo 6/10

    Sony 6/10

    MS 4/10

    I guess there is always next year.

    #110 4 years ago
  111. Gheritt White

    Please can we all club together to get TEA a hooker? He clearly needs to blow off some steam.

    I’ll set up a PayPal.

    #111 4 years ago
  112. StolenGlory

    @111. Sounds like a winner to me, maybe we could book Alakratt in there too and get a discount.

    #112 4 years ago
  113. theevilaires

    @ 105 I love you :D can I give you a hug :D

    #113 4 years ago
  114. Gadzooks!

    I have a sneaking suspicion that Alakratt may be TEA’s sock account. They both seem to be sharing the same brain cell at any rate.

    #114 4 years ago
  115. Alakratt

    @StolenGlory

    So you automatically hate ANYONE that disagrees with you? And since you can’t defend yourself, much less your arugument (if you have one) you use insults. Dude, please, go back to school (or college if you got that far), and learn how to analize and think, please do us all that favor. @ the hooker invitation, thanks but no thanks, I already got my girlfriend for that, but maybe you could start tryin out women instead of all those guys you get blown by every night. Just a thought!

    #115 4 years ago
  116. Gheritt White

    I’m hoping it’s two separate people – would save us some money for that hooker.

    That said, if they are the same it would explain why TEA want to give him a “hug”, the dirty so-and-so.

    #116 4 years ago
  117. Alakratt

    No, actually we’re two different people, and most likely on different countries. We think alike yes, but that’s because we don’t praise a shit console, a money-stealing company and have one brain cell like you guys do.

    This always ends the same way, xbots slamming EVERYONE that disagrees with them and insulting them. And since this site is FULL of them, they feel like they’re sooooo right. But hey, let them live in their own fantasy world. To each his own.

    #117 4 years ago
  118. StolenGlory

    @Alarkratt.

    I don’t auotmatically hate people that disagree with me. I hate hypocrites. Please go back and read my original post.

    ‘Dude, please, go back to school (or college if you got that far), and learn how to analize and think, please do us all that favor.’

    Right back at you. ‘Analize’. Learn to spell.

    Oh and ditto about the use of insults – ‘ I already got my girlfriend for that, but maybe you could start tryin out women instead of all those guys you get blown by every night. Just a thought!’.

    Please think before you type. Hypocrite.

    *Sigh*.

    #118 4 years ago
  119. theevilaires

    Hey Gadzooks! please click the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

    Gheritt I want either a brazilian, half german half japanese, half peruvian half japanese or russian hooker please :D

    #119 4 years ago
  120. Gadzooks!

    @116

    This is bringing back memories of a conversation about self-sexification through use of a portal.

    Portal + spilt personality + narcisism = TEA/Alakratt self-orgy?

    #120 4 years ago
  121. StolenGlory

    @Alakratt. Unbelieveable. Aren’t you and TEA just the brave Sony Soldiers fighting the good fight against a horde of ‘Xbot’ monsters :)

    Oh and if you don’t like it here, you know what to do right?

    Fuck off?

    Right on.

    #121 4 years ago
  122. Gheritt White

    @Alakratt: You do realise that your insistence on using the term “xbot” makes you seem like a petulant child?

    Also, are we to take it that now you think Pat is a biased journo in Microsoft’s pocket, you won’t be posting here any more?

    Lastly, where the fuck is that blasted ‘ignore’ button?

    @TEA: Jesus Christ, just when I was about to get my hate on you remind me what a genuinely funny fucker you can be on occasion.

    #122 4 years ago
  123. StolenGlory

    @Gheritt. Tell me about it. This thread is proof of concept if nothing else.

    #123 4 years ago
  124. mington

    @119 mutilation is extra

    #124 4 years ago
  125. Blerk

    Time to duck out of this thread, I think!

    /exits stage left

    #125 4 years ago
  126. DGOJG

    I remember Pac-man. Much simpler times :D

    #126 4 years ago
  127. Gadzooks!

    @125

    What, just as the topics of mutant hookers and auto-erotic dimension hopping come up?

    To each his own I guess, but this is top-shelf stuff! :D

    #127 4 years ago
  128. Alakratt

    @ Guerrit and his boyfriend

    I’ll post whenever I want. Just because you don’t like what I write doesn’t mean I’ll stop. You two seem to think you’re way above others, but in reality, that kind of thinking is what makes you less than others.

    #128 4 years ago
  129. StolenGlory

    @Alakratt.

    I think i’m above hypocrites yes. Seeing as you are one of them, feel free to hate.

    In actuality, what makes you less than others, is the inability to articulate your point with any kind of objectivism, instead replacing the latter with hypocrisy.

    I actually pity you.

    #129 4 years ago
  130. G1GAHURTZ

    Half German, half Japanese!?!?!?

    LOL!

    #130 4 years ago
  131. Gheritt White

    I’ve NEVER said I’m above Blerk… ever.

    #131 4 years ago
  132. mington

    i think i used the wrong word

    “Mutilation or maiming is an act or physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of any living body, usually without causing death”

    could you chop a hooker in half without causing death?

    #132 4 years ago
  133. Gadzooks!

    @122

    I don’t think that ignore button is coming. It’s the cross-game chat of this forum. :p

    Also, if only we could separate the 5% funny TEA from the 95% complete twat that would be great. Some kind of teleporter accident is required.

    Maybe we could sabotage the portal he is using to bone his alter-ego?

    #133 4 years ago
  134. StolenGlory

    @Gheritt – LOL.

    #134 4 years ago
  135. mington

    i’m going to experiment with provocatively dressed rats

    #135 4 years ago
  136. StolenGlory

    @mington – Will there be…. cheese involved?

    #136 4 years ago
  137. Gheritt White

    Apparently, the cheese is a lie.

    [/groan]

    #137 4 years ago
  138. Alakratt

    @ StolenGlory

    Again, why hypocrite? I haven’t changed my opinion since writing in this post. You still haven’t explained why I’m I hypocrite? You may know how to spell better, but you still throw insults randomly! Awesome!

    #138 4 years ago
  139. G1GAHURTZ

    Pat isn’t biased.

    He’s got an opinion.

    He thinks Bioshock is art and doesn’t like driving sims.

    Leave him alone.

    #139 4 years ago
  140. StolenGlory

    @Alakratt.

    You’re still here?

    Ok. You called me out for insulting, yet you did it yourself with the response to the hooker comment.

    It’s amazing how much you simply ignore…

    Oh and spelling is one thing, but when you can’t even use cut ‘n’ paste, – ‘@ Guerrit’, you know you have issues.

    #140 4 years ago
  141. theevilaires

    Alakratt don’t mind these RROD XBOTs. You know they have to cling to Nintendo by default whenever something M$ does makes them look bad.

    As soon as the PS3 out sells the 360 this year or next they’ll be shouting Wii has outsold more than the PS3. They just hate SONY for whatever reason but little do they realize that it was SONY themselves that started this whole cinematic gaming stuff with the PS1.

    Its them who we should be thanking for taking us out the kiddy stage of Nintendo over used Mario,Zelda,Metriod formula. We all owe SONY that.

    #141 4 years ago
  142. mington

    oh yes a cheese board is a must, an assorted selection of the finest cheeses. Roquefort , brie pays, Wensleydale with mango and ginger, Jarlsberg, Lincolnshire poacher, Yarg, Chevre blanc, Mature gouda but to name a few

    mmmmmmm i’m salivating at the thought…..of chopping up the hooker rats

    #142 4 years ago
  143. Gadzooks!

    @141

    Are you perchance descended from Don Quixote?

    #143 4 years ago
  144. StolenGlory

    @TEA.

    Like your deluded friend, you make baseless assumptions as to the systems that people own. If I hate Sony’s conference, which by the way I didn’t, then that must *surely* mean I own a 360/Wii right? I mean, it can’t possibly be for any other reason right?

    Also just like your counterpart, you hate on someone automatically because they disagree with your opinion.

    Whereas the rage that was incited in my very first post was the direct result of you saying at the end ‘I’m not being a fanboy I’m stating facts. Nothing I’ve said was a lie so don’t start that fanboy flame shit.’ right after you started said ‘fanboy shit’.

    What is so hard to understand here?

    #144 4 years ago
  145. mington

    I must get to work on my diorama at once!

    #145 4 years ago
  146. StolenGlory

    @mington. Pics or it didn’t happen! :)

    #146 4 years ago
  147. Robo_1

    @108

    Whilst I hear what you’re saying, I do think you’re underestimating just how badly MS’s conference came across to many people. I love motion controls, and I’m really excited to be able to experience both Kinect and Move, but even as a gamer who welcomes a bit of waggle, I still felt completely abandoned by MS this E3.

    The launch lineup for Kinect is a string of sports/party/exercise games, with only the multi platform Child of Eden actually looking as though it was built with the core gamer in mind. I’m sure it was impressive technically, but where were the motion games aimed at core gamers… the answer it would seem, is at Sony’s and Nintendo’s stand.

    Even going past the whole motion control thing, where were the core reveals from MS, where were the surprises? A Hideo Kojima appearance, a timed CoD exclusive, Halo, Gears, Fable… the whole first half of the press conference came across as a re-hash of their 2009 conference with the odd title added/removed. It was lip service to a core audience whose support got them to where they are.

    I mean don’t get me wrong, I know from your input over here and at Rllmuk that we’re often on the same page on many subjects, so it’s genuinely interesting for me to hear how you saw things from over in LA, but as I say, as somebody who is excited by motion controls but likes his action games, I genuinely did feel nothing but contempt for the MS showing.

    You could say the Sony showing was dull, but whilst I admit they had some odd pacing problems, and the whole PSN+ thing was quite badly fluffed, I can at least run off a list of games I saw there that I’m excited to get my hands on.

    The whole Kevin Butler thing was great too, and I’m surprised you have such venom for it. I can somewhat understand why his appearance and humour was lost on journalists from other countries, but his appearance was a top ten request on the Playstation share blog, and given that E3 is an American event, you needed to look no further than the pages of GAF to see that the decision to include him in the conference was vindicated and his comments seemed well received at the conference… hell even Pat liked him. :)

    But yeah, I think the main differences between MS’s and Sony’s conference was that MS were focussed on casual gaming more than they were on the actual motion side of it, whilst Sony were focussed on all sorts of different tech, with content for all audiences.

    Us stalwart gamers know how things are going, and most of us understand why the big manufacturers – looking at the success of the Wii – are now out courting their own casual market, but whilst Sony seem to be doing this with a “something for everyone” philosophy, MS seem singularly focussed on making Kinect their casual add on, which is fine providing you don’t leave your current market chewing on dust as you race off to do so, which is what I feel they did this year.

    #147 4 years ago
  148. theevilaires

    You and Gadzooks! should get together and make something positive because you’re both negative. Go somewhere and cancel each other out. Or do whatever XBOTS do with each other.

    #148 4 years ago
  149. JonFE

    I sincerely hope that most of you commenting on this article are adolescents, because your behaviour is quite frankly embarrassing…

    :?

    #149 4 years ago
  150. StolenGlory

    @TEA.

    I’m not negative. I just don’t have a tolerance for one-dimensional trolling fanboy morons.

    #150 4 years ago
  151. theevilaires

    they started it :P

    #151 4 years ago
  152. Alakratt

    @148

    I’ll take a guess and say…gay sex?

    #152 4 years ago
  153. The Hindle

    I cant understand how a press conference that had a girl harassing a cat called Skittles can be given a 9, but to each is own thats how the saying goes.

    #153 4 years ago
  154. StolenGlory

    @JonFE: Seeing as the correlation that exists between adolescents and fanboyism is non-mutually exclusive; are you really surprised?

    #154 4 years ago
  155. Rudderless

    @147 – the Kevin Butler thing was amusing at the time, but it did feel self-indulgent, particularly as Sony had precious little to snipe at its rivals about. Naturally a bit of smack-talk is to be expected at these events, but it was telling that Microsoft and Nintendo both concentrated on getting their own houses in order.

    Perhaps Sony’s just felt longer as it came immediately after Nintendo’s impressive showing, but certainly among the people I spoke to, Sony came off worst of the three.

    I just find it odd that so many are willing to forget the opening of Microsoft’s conference, which was about as core-centric as you could wish for – even if a couple of those titles were multiformat. Granted, I think MS would have been sensible to feature Child of Eden or even the Forza demo I played on the Wednesday, but then I didn’t really mind the casual-focused content because by then I’d played it and enjoyed it.

    As a father, I’m genuinely interested in Kinect as a way into gaming for my son, who finds the often-complex control schemes for modern games a bit too hard to take in at the moment (he’s four). And it’s also something that’s likely to interest my wife, in a way that most games don’t.

    As Pat says, Sony concentrated on some odd things and then glossed over other important stuff. And the final ‘surprise’ was underwhelming to say the least.

    On the show floor, Sony’s stand had plenty of interesting stuff, chiefly on PSN, which went sadly ignored during the briefing. Five or ten minutes on that instead of the slightly embarrassing and desperate here’s-how-we’re-going-to-try-and-sell-the-PSP campaign would have improved things.

    And nothing whatsoever on Last Guardian? Could have paid lip service to it, at least.

    #155 4 years ago
  156. StolenGlory

    @Rudderless. I agree with pretty much everything you said there. As a PSP owner however, it was good to see that (on the face of it at least) that Sony are still putting some support behind the existing model.

    #156 4 years ago
  157. G1GAHURTZ

    As a father, I’m genuinely interested in Kinect as a way into gaming for my son, who finds the often-complex control schemes for modern games a bit too hard to take in at the moment (he’s four).

    Haha! Don’t worry about that. By the time he’s 6, you’ll probably be asking him to teach you how to quick scope…

    #157 4 years ago
  158. theevilaires

    StolenGlory said: I’m not negative. I just don’t have a tolerance for one-dimensional trolling fanboy morons.

    No one is trolling here. Everyone is speaking their opinion. Do you see anyone here cursing and using profaned language toward each other in a crazy way? No. RGW guy use to troll but he got ban. Garratt knows we all just have fun and don’t take it to the extreme.

    Every one here knows their limits and boundaries before it gets to ugly. Thats why I start with the sarcasm because its really not that serious. I must have really got under your skin for you to start posting for the first time which is great because now we have another good poster who joined. If thats what we can get out of our virtual fits then I’m all up for Garratt’s little fanboy articles.

    It only makes us respect each other more at the end of the day and have greater debates the next. So take it easy buddy its only fun and games ;)

    #158 4 years ago
  159. G1GAHURTZ

    Ahhh….

    Let’s all hug tea!

    He’s so nice.

    #159 4 years ago
  160. JonFE

    I guess a *manly* group-hug is in order, then…

    Now that we put this behind us (in a *manly* way of course), tell us Pat, how do you like your new toy?

    #160 4 years ago
  161. theevilaires

    No hugs, just everyone pitch in $50 for that half German half Japanese hooker :D

    #161 4 years ago
  162. Gheritt White

    Subjectively speaking, I’d say that Sony gave the best press conference, just because the Kevin Butler speech was quite possibly the best E3 moment I’ve *ever* witnessed.

    Objectively speaking, Nintendo had the best press conference because it outed a gaming system capable of 3D output without the need for special glasses, *plus* a stellar launch line-up.

    #162 4 years ago
  163. StolenGlory

    @TEA.

    My position on your inital post remains the same. I’m sure you’re a smart enough guy, but if you are, don’t do yourself the disservice of posting like you’re not.

    @Gheritt – The Kevin Butler speech was helluva entertaining indeed.

    #163 4 years ago
  164. Gadzooks!

    @158

    “No one is trolling here.”

    WRONG! You are trolling here, every day.

    This is your average post:

    “Durr, RROD! Duh…. XBOT! Me like SONY, you not cleverer. DERRRP!”

    You are a troll, plain and simple. Stupid, abusive, unable to reason. Troll.

    #164 4 years ago
  165. DaMan

    theeviltroll. simple as that.

    #165 4 years ago
  166. StolenGlory

    @Gadzooks!

    To be fair, the fanboyism never really gets irritating so much as it is amusing.

    What really bugs me is when I see ‘RAR, RAR, *Insert system of choice*, IS TEH BEST, RAR, RAR’, followed by ‘Don’t give me that fanboy flame shit’ as a comment closer.

    Be a fanboy all you want. But please, do so with a pair and a spine.

    #166 4 years ago
  167. theevilaires

    StolenGlory,Gadzooks!,and DaMan….I love you three stooges :D now stand still while I snipe you guys….ready!

    PEW! :) PEW! :D PEW! :P

    #167 4 years ago
  168. Gheritt White

    I feel left out now…

    #168 4 years ago
  169. Mike

    TEA

    #169 4 years ago
  170. Robo_1

    @155

    I really didn’t think their core centric opening was anything to crow about. As I’ve said, it was mostly just a rehash of their 2009 showing. Halo: Reach is coming… still, oh and here’s Hideo Kojima for ten seconds, just to remind you that we’ve got Metal Gear on 360… lol?!?!?!? Oh, and here’s another CoD timed exclusive! It was a mockingly feeble attempt to allay the fears of the core.

    There’s a great gif floating around that shows the highlights of MS’s conference, and it basically just shows Raiden chopping a water melon followed by the word, fin. I think this goes back to the disconnect between gaming journalists and gamers I mentioned at the start.
    From a gamers point of view, actual footage of Rising.. a multi platform game but crucially, something we hadn’t seen before actually stole their show, as everything else demoed we either knew or didn’t care about. The Kinect stuff people didn’t care about simply because it was consistently aimed at a different market to that which was sat watching streams of the show across the globe. I’d like to say it was just poor judgement on MS’s part, but looking at the games they’ve actually announced, it doesn’t look as though they have anywhere else to shine the spotlight on.

    Sure the Sony conference could have been better. I know a team Ico collection along with a proper look at The Last Guardian would have been enough for many gamers to call it for Sony, but I think many gamers and journalists forget that E3 is still a trade show, so whilst it might seem crazy on the face of it to give conference time to a new PSP commercial, it is crucial for Sony to get the message out that PSP is still a focus for them, and they will be pushing that platform over the coming year.

    They also know that the current Kevin Butler campaign has been a huge success, so revealing a spin off version for the PSP is something which will bolster retailer confidence in the platform, and actually giving it as much time as they did is an important show of force from Sony, in a market where many people are questioning either the demise or successor of the platform.

    Anyway, it’s interesting to hear you had a different take on it, and I suppose the problem is that as much as I’d like to say that I’m keen to try kinect for myself, MS totally failed to sell it to me, and as I’m fairly open minded to motion controls, it’s hardly surprising that their conference landed with such a thud for most gamers.

    #170 4 years ago
  171. StolenGlory

    @Robo_1:

    What did you think of their claim for newly invigorated PSP support?

    How do you believe they’ll follow it through?

    I’m asking since I was hoping that the unveling of GoW: Ghosts of Sparta was merely the tip of the iceberg and that we would see some more first-party love for the PSP.

    #171 4 years ago
  172. Erthazus

    @162, Thats subjective.

    In reality SHARP is who created 3D capabilities to it’s screen
    Sony and Microsoft have power to do the same shit.
    3D is just a PR magic to sell that device, from some previews 3D is an OK thing on the 3DS.

    But you can’t have the same 3D quality effect like from Sony’s games. Not because they are on big screen, it’s because they put enough research behind 3D. They have an entire movie studio to back them up.

    3DS sells only 3rd party support, remakes like Ocarina.

    #172 4 years ago
  173. Mattigan

    “Didn’t take long for team retard to start using the word ‘bias’ did it?

    I DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS SO THEREFORE YOUR OPINIONS ARE WRONG/BIASED”

    No Duffking.

    That should read –

    YOU USE DEROGITORY TERMS TO DESCRIBE THE COMPETION TO YOUR PREFERRED CONSOLE MANUFACURER THERFORE DISPLAYING YOUR BIAS TOWARDS SAID MANUFACTURER.

    I don’t really care who had the best E3, but morons using terms like ‘Microshit’ don’t really help the debate along do they?

    Neither do retards like you with their broken caps lock keys defending them, with equally highbrow terms like ‘team retard’, well done that man.

    My original comment stands, and also applies to you it would seem.

    #173 4 years ago
  174. Robo_1

    @StolenGlory

    I think however much Sony want to re-assure customers and publishers that they’re still 100 percent behind the platform, as soon as they have a viable replacement ready, they’ll launch it.

    The new $9.99 range they’re launching is a good move, and the odd big game like God Of War will be just enough to stop the platform from dropping off into total obscurity in the west.

    It’s certainly entering its twilight years though, with Apple on one side and Nintendo on the other, Sony must be acutely aware that whatever they release as a PSP successor, it’s going to have to be cheap and inventive enough to compete with Nintendo, yet be enough of a high end multimedia device to keep Apple at bay.

    It’s not an envious task to be honest, and the timescale for such a move is made all the more awkward by the platforms East/West success ratio, where it’s cleaning up in Japan, but dying a death in the western markets.

    I think PSP Go was designed to buy them some time, but as that’s clearly not gone to plan, they’re in this odd situation of not wanting to commit too many resources/cash to it, as they’re just not going to see much of a return on their investment, versus the fact that if they don’t commit enough resources to it, the platform is going to stay in this weird limbo state.

    Personally I think the PSP has a great back catalogue of games, and if they leverage that and drip feed it with a good few titles they can string it out for another 18 months, which will hopefully be enough time for them to get PSP2 into shape and ready for retail.

    #174 4 years ago
  175. mathare92

    Yipee 174 comments :P. Yea, definitely the largest thread I’ve seen on the site.

    #175 4 years ago
  176. Gadzooks!

    @166

    Yes actually, the fanboyism is pathetic and it is very irritating. All TEA’s stupid fanboy comments do is derail the thread.

    All the child wants to do is prevent people who are capable of reasoned conversation from doing so. He wants everyone to stop what they are talking about and talk about him instead.

    It’s nothing to do with platform. He doesnt care about Sony or MS or games or anything being discussed, he only cares about himself and being the centre of attention.

    What pisses me off is that it works. The insecure needy little child gets his audience.

    I want a damned ignore button so this stupid little vandal can no longer be heard. Take away his voice and the child is nothing.

    #176 4 years ago
  177. spiderLAW

    @ 175, i think ive seen 200+ not too long ago

    #177 4 years ago
  178. theevilaires

    spiderLaw we have gotten close to 500 before. Back in the good ol’ days when Mike and psychotext were M$’s main players on this site. Now there’s Gadzooks! and some random newbie like StolenGlory trying to follow in there footsteps every week with a mere 100 post weak comment debate.

    @ Gadzooks! Wake up kid , get out of your denial!

    #178 4 years ago
  179. Mike

    Alakratt is a bigger nutter than TEA in this thread. That in itself deserves some kid of T-Shirt or money off coupons for his local chemist.

    Dude’s gone mental.

    #179 4 years ago
  180. spiderLAW

    @176
    Not trying to irritate you but i think if what you are saying is really TEA’s intent, then he is succeeding with flying colors.
    I know you mentioned that he is, but i wanted to agree with your statement and have it acknowledged that he might just be a masterful commenter…well, according to how you describe him.
    I think he is hilarious, even when he is supposidly “trolling.” Reminds me of a guy over at screenrant called KenJ

    on the article:
    after reading all the comments, my opinion still stands.
    1) Sony
    2) Nintendo
    3) Microsoft
    I just felt as a gamer, the order of my list stands for the amount of game content that i would want to see at an E3 presentation.
    I think all 3 companies need to stay way from the bullshit of “We sold this many last year. We sold this item this much last month. Press is saying this about us.” and focus more on “This is the line up we are bringing to you. This is how much better these games are going to get. This is how we are going to fix the issues that are still affecting our games and how they are experienced. This is how we are gonna stop developers from handing us garbage after claiming their game to be the best ever.”

    #180 4 years ago
  181. Mike

    @178

    #181 4 years ago
  182. theevilaires

    spiderLAW my good sir,….you’re a genius and MIKE shut it! before I PEW PEW you! Run back to games for windows PC boy :D

    #182 4 years ago
  183. spiderLAW

    @TEA
    500!!!
    Where do you guys find the time?!

    #183 4 years ago
  184. Mike

    @182:

    #184 4 years ago
  185. theevilaires

    That’s it PEW! :D PEW! :D PEW! :D (now play dead for the rest of the day)

    We have no lives spiderLAW #184 is evident enough :D

    #185 4 years ago
  186. Syrok

    You people care too much.

    #186 4 years ago
  187. spiderLAW

    @182
    Oh and thanks. Sometimes i like to think that i have at least the brain capactiy of a 12yr old….keyword being “think”

    @185
    obviously, lol.

    @186
    best comment of the day

    #187 4 years ago
  188. Gadzooks!

    @180

    Unfortunately the funny side of TEA’s stupidity is greatly overshadowed by his unpleasantness.

    If I went to a circus I might enjoy watching a clown. If that clown came over and squirted water from a flower lapel in my face I’d laugh, but when that clown comes over every 2 minutes, takes an innefectual swing at me, fails and decides to hock a loogie in my chips instead, pretty soon I’m gonna want to take a corkscrew to his intestines and show him how full of shit he is.

    #188 4 years ago
  189. revolting

    Wow. This thread has unveiled all sorts of new levels of stupid hypocracy. Especially by Alakratt, although certainly not just him and also not just from the Sony camp.

    Alakratt & TEA, here’s a clue to why you were called hypocrites, since you keep claiming nobody can explain why: because you both constantly accuse absolutely everyone else of being fanboys and profess to hate all forms of fanboyism yourselves, and then write paragraphs upon paragraphs on why you unwaveringly hate the opposing console, the manufacturers of the opposing console and any gamer who has ever dared to play a game on the opposing console and had the audacity to enjoy the experience. You have no reservations of ridiculing and hating anyone who dares play anything on the console you personally dislike. That’s fanboyism, and that’s hypocracy.

    Real gamers don’t give a flying fuck about who came first with Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, or any other brand. Real gamers game on whatever platforms the games they enjoy are available on. Guess what! A lot of people play games on both Playstations and Xboxes – and enjoy both! Sorry of it’s a difficult concept to grasp when you’re so wrapped up in a “my console/stick/epeen is bigger and cooler than yours and you’re a fanboy if you say otherwise!” fanatic rant, but any real gamer worth his or her salt just doesn’t give a shit about your brand-name obsession/slavery. It doesn’t matter which side of the war you’re on; if you believe that yours is better and anyone who disagrees is stupid, whether it be xbox, ps3 or jaguar, you’re a fanboy and an idiot. Different people enjoy different things. Accept and move on – you’d have more time to spend enjoying your own games if you spent less of it worrying about whether everyone else likes the same things you do to reassure your fragile self-esteem that, yes, you’re one of the cool kids with the cool toys. And you’d be happier. And so would the rest of us.

    Personally, I love my 360, and I love my PS3, and I love my gaming PC, and I couldn’t be happier with the games I play on any of them. I can’t stand the wii, I just don’t find it enjoyable… but if other people enjoy it, so what? That’s cool for them. I think no less of them.

    And on to the actual subject at hand… Who won? Nobody won! They were all average, leaning towards shit. This has been the most uninteresting E3 from all three camps by far for many a year, for me. I don’t care about motion games, I don’t care about keeping up with the wii-playing Jonses, and I’m not impressed by stuff I already knew about or by new hardware I don’t want (motion stuff) or have no desire to upgrade (my DS and my TV). All of the big presentations were completely unremarkable to me. As someone stated earlier (Blerk I think, lost it amongst all the other stuff in this thread!), the best announcements in my opinion came from the developers in the booths, because that’s where the interesting games were. And at the end of the day, interesting games is what we all want, surely, regardless of which platform(s) we play on?

    #189 4 years ago
  190. G1GAHURTZ

    @188:

    That has to be the wierdest analogy I’ve ever read.

    #190 4 years ago
  191. Gadzooks!

    @189

    A-freaking-men!

    @190

    Thanks! :D

    #191 4 years ago
  192. G1GAHURTZ

    I can’t say much about Alakratt as I don’t know him much, but some of you take tea way too seriously.

    He’s just joking half the time…

    Anyone who knew what he was like when he first started posting, compared to how his is now could see that, surely.

    #192 4 years ago
  193. Mike

    Joke stopped being funny 765 days ago precisely.

    #193 4 years ago
  194. Gheritt White

    GHz, when TEA first started posting he was insufferable all the time.. now he’s insufferable only most of the time.

    I mean, all that shit where he pretended not to be from America while simultaneously calling us all Eurofags? Great, so he may have been kidding, but I for one was not overly thrilled on his arrival to our little corner of the net.

    #194 4 years ago
  195. Mike

    In every other social context outside of the internet he’d've had seven shades of shit beaten out of him by now.

    Also, I’d go as far to say that VG247 is the only place he can post like he does. He’s personal, confrontational and would be banned from anywhere else.

    He takes Pat’s leniency and generosity and spits on it. No respect.

    #195 4 years ago
  196. Mike

    seriez bizniz

    #196 4 years ago
  197. YoungZer0

    Nintendo didn’t win. The only reason they were successful this time is because of how bad and embarrassing their previous conferences were.

    #197 4 years ago
  198. The Hindle

    Woah its on between Mike and Tea :D in the red corner its Mike in the blue corner its Tea.

    #198 4 years ago
  199. DaMan

    Mr Tea is pretty much the same as back then, only now many people ‘ve learned to detect the tone he’s writing in. but to be fair, he’s far from being the most repulsive poster here.

    anyway, I thought Ninty were the most impressive, way better than the others. both game content and announcements wise. surprisingly good show from them.

    #199 4 years ago
  200. spiderLAW

    @199
    Edit: i shouldnt be so immature as to single out a person.

    #200 4 years ago
  201. G1GAHURTZ

    Sure, I agree that he can go overboard sometimes, Mike, (like we all do) but it turned personal between you and him ages ago, so the relationship between you two isn’t a fair example of what he’s like most of the time.

    Obviously he doesn’t get on with SticKboy either (sorry, but you’ll always be SticKboy to me!), but the ‘ganging up’ in this comment section just seems a bit unfair IMHO…

    Especially as he’s at least made a clear effort to change his ways, unlike some other commenters.

    #201 4 years ago
  202. revolting

    “an effort to change his ways…”

    Really? How hard is it to not be disrespectful and to acknowledge that lots of people will enjoy things you don’t? There’s zero effort involved. The easiest way to not be treated like a dick is fairly uncomplicated; just don’t be a dick to everyone who crosses your path.

    Better yet, just enjoy the games you love on the platform you’re happy with and let everyone else enjoy the games they love on whatever platform they they’re happy with without needing to constantly berate anyone who isn’t on your team. There shouldn’t even be teams… just gamers. Everyone wins.

    Aimed at everyone on every platform, not just TEA, as you’re quite right, it’s not fair to single out individuals. Individuals do contribute to problems, though, and often they are the only ones that can fix that.

    #202 4 years ago
  203. Gheritt White

    Hey, I’ve *always* been a prick – it’s the only area of my life that has a degree of consistency.

    #203 4 years ago
  204. revolting

    But you acknowledge it, and that’s the difference. :)

    #204 4 years ago
  205. The Hindle

    Aye this is just a videogame forum at the end of the day

    #205 4 years ago
  206. Tallon 4

    MS 9/10???
    Come on…You’re joking right :)

    #206 4 years ago
  207. Mike

    I don’t think there’s anything personal at all, giga.

    I just say what I see. If you started posting like him I’d be saying the same things. If StickBoy did. If anyone did.

    He ruins the site for many people and I believe he puts off a lot of new posters in joining the community because of his rants and personal attacks on people who are in any way critical of Sony.

    Now, he might be joking, but it simply isn’t funny at all.

    #207 4 years ago
  208. Dr.Ghettoblaster

    From what I’ve read on this topic, most other sites are putting Nintendo or Sony first, but Microsoft is consistently coming in last.

    Pretty surprised to see Microsoft first in this list. I’d say:

    1. Sony (they have the most variety in games)
    2. Nintendo (it’s the same batch of games….again…now in 3D)
    3. Microsoft (nothing too impressive besides Reach and Gears 3)

    #208 4 years ago
  209. DaMan

    I fail to see how Sony were any better myself, unless you prefer driving sims to platformers.

    tbh, they were same as MS, if you take into account the slim 360 announcement.

    #209 4 years ago
  210. MushroomStamp

    %100 agree with Mike, Gadzooks, StolenGlory, Mattigan, and several others about TheEvilLiar and his absolute unwaivering ability to be a spiteful, hateful, hypocrit, immature, annoying and just a flat out Tool. He ruins the experience for many many people.

    All I want for christmas is an ignore button on these forums.

    #210 4 years ago
  211. Erthazus

    @210 you forgot to mention me ;)
    “to be a spiteful, hateful, hypocrit, immature, annoying and just a flat out Tool.”

    :D

    #211 4 years ago
  212. spiderLAW

    @211
    I was thinking the exact same thing!

    Nah. You are cool too. If people have problems with any single person on this site, they need to just lighten up and ignore their nonsense.
    Ignore button is something i see people mentioning constantly. You know the ignore button exists except its not exactly a button. Its called your mind. It can ignore all kinds of information or shit just the same.

    For example. You can completely ignore what i have just said. And you will. TadA!!

    #212 4 years ago
  213. theevilaires

    la la la la la oh what do we have here….a bunch of cry babies :D guys this is the reason why I know what I say to most of you believe as the truth. You’re still talking about me (LMAO) I haven’t attacked any of you. You just hate that I’m right and I throw the hard cold truth in your faces.

    YOU’RE IN DENIAL!

    SONY won get over it Jesus Christ!

    Thanks Mr. G1GAHURTZ :)

    Mike burn in HELL with your games for windows PC boy! :D

    I’m a gamer first and foremost so screw all you fanboys. I love all the consoles (except the Wii) but the truth is the truth….SONY won E3.

    But more importantly really who gives a shit. Garratt is sitting back laughing at all of you. He probably made a bet with the rest of the staff to start this shit. He knows exactly what he was doing when he posted “HIS” opinion as a factual article.

    I just ran with it. Right now he has a big fucking grin on his face :D

    #213 4 years ago
  214. mathare92

    “Imagine all the people…” :P

    #214 4 years ago
  215. Gadzooks!

    “But more importantly really who gives a shit”

    You give a shit, that’s who. You and one or two other retards with misguided notions of brand loyalty and the idea that some kind of corporation war is being fought.

    Most of us here know that nobody ‘won’ E3. The notion is completely absurd and only a child or an idiot would make sides out of the show.

    E3 isnt there to be won, it’s there to tell us what is upcoming on our gaming calendar, and you pick and choose what you like from the show and what you dont.

    What you do not do is tell other people their choices are wrong, because they are not. MS offer more games that appeal to me than Sony and Nintendo combined so by your retarded logic I could say MS won and call it a FACT. But saying MS won is as retarded as saying Sony won because they will both be getting sales from me off the back of E3.

    Aligning yourself to a manufacturer is just so stupid it defies reason, but you do it all the same. I just cannot understand why.

    So just stop all this crap about ‘facts’, being right, etc. because you dont even understand the fundamental notions of fact and opinion. What you call fact is actually opinion, and that’s a FACT.

    #215 4 years ago
  216. Gekidami

    @195
    Thats rich coming from you seeing as pretty much every comment you make these days is either blantant trolling and/or obvious flamebaiting.

    #216 4 years ago
  217. reask

    MS won hands down folks get over it.
    Slim and Natal was way the best. ;)
    I await the dancing game with ecstasy.

    Sony are old school and I never watched the ninty one.
    XBOX ROCKS. :)

    Games for Playstation I am awaiting.

    Nah only kidding Sony and MS were equally boring.

    #217 4 years ago
  218. theevilaires

    LMAO I never read those comments by Mike until I saw Geks post. WOW! Mike you really hate me don’t you?……(I fucking love it) :D

    Oh and as for that getting the shit beaten out of me seven ways comment…nice one :D I wish someone could kick my ass sometimes but I have yet to meet that person in life yet….maybe you could be that one guy Mike?

    You and me 12 rounds at next years E3! That will give you more than enough time to train to get your ass kicked EURO! Please believe I’m no different from here than I am in real life. I bite my tongue for no one.

    #218 4 years ago
  219. spiderLAW

    TEA, whats your PSN and GT?

    #219 4 years ago
  220. theevilaires

    Same as here…same as anywhere on the fake world known as the internet :D PEW PEW PEW!

    #220 4 years ago
  221. spiderLAW

    shit dude. Looking at ur trophies, you play everything!

    #221 4 years ago
  222. Mike

    @218: I’m a lover not a fighter.

    #222 4 years ago
  223. theevilaires

    Because I’m a GAMER!!!!!!!!!! not a fanboy like MIKE

    #223 4 years ago
  224. spiderLAW

    aight, just added you on PSN and Live. My live tag is different, it starts off with ThElAw

    #224 4 years ago
  225. spiderLAW

    Actually, if anybody wants to add me feel free. Just mention where you are from.

    360: ThElAwLaIdLaW
    PS3: SpIdErLaW
    Wii: shit, too long.

    #225 4 years ago
  226. OlderGamer

    @221

    Tea is right, well sorta ;)

    He does play a lot of stuff, you should see his achievies on Gears of War.

    But, shhh don’t tell anyone.

    #226 4 years ago
  227. spiderLAW

    @226
    hahahahaha!!!!
    I just looked at those achievements this morning.

    #227 4 years ago
  228. asdfasdf

    228 and going

    #228 4 years ago