GT5′s Nürburgring gets off-screen video

“mechanical dammage and a realtime deformation engine and this is TWO different things.”

Tell me what your definitions of these things are. The way I see it the 2 components of damage are:

1) Visual: How the car looks after a crash. Most games, GT included, use canned damage in varying degrees, not a ‘realtime deformation engine’. This has no effect on how the game plays.

2) Performance-affecting. Hit a wall at 130mph and drive away afterwards = sim fail. Corner by bouncing off other cars with no damage to aero package, steering and suspension = sim fail. Continually shunt front and back of car with no damage to engine, aero and transmission = sim fail.

Now, so far the GT series has had no performance affecting damage modelling, and videos seem to indicate that GT5 will not either.

Forza 2 and 3 have performance affecting AND visual damage modelling, as well as performance affecting tyre wear and heat modelling. It’s still very far from realism but it’s there.

So how can you say GT is the pinnacle of sim racing when other games have more realistic handling models and more realistic damage models?

NOTE: I’m still not saying any other game is better than GT because that is entirely down to personal taste. What I AM saying is that your claim is pure balls.

GT is about car porn, and it does that job very well, but GT has never been about realistic driving. Visual damage modelling was added as a last-minute concession to internet forum pressure, and I dont even know if performance affecting damage will be in GT5 at all. If so then we have seen no evidence of it.

Double post.

“PC will never die no matter what”

You keep telling yourself that and you might even start to believe it, but sales show otherwise.