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Tippl: Online “expected” to be a big part of Bungie’s new game

Thursday, 29th April 2010 18:46 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

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Activision COO Thomas Tippl has said that Bungie has a “well thought-out business model” behind the game it’s working on at the moment.

Speaking with Kotaku, Tippl said that at this point neither side are ready to talk about what this business model entails, but that you can expect it to contain online elements.

“We are not ready at this point to talk about the business model of the game,” he said. “Bungie has been working on this project for awhile and have a well thought-out business model behind it.

“It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that online is where the industry is going. The online component of Bungie’s games has always been very important to everyone.”

“Online should be expected to be a big part of their next game.”

While this may lead some to conclude that it an MMO, Bungie’s Brain Jarrard refused to confirm or deny the possibility to VG247′s Patrick Garratt in a phone interview this morning.

“I’m not going to confirm or deny [the MMO rumblings],” he said. “[People] thought that Halo 3 was an MMO and Reach even more so.

“Certainly, we’re looking at… Bungie has a pedigree of online experience and a pedigree of social and community interaction, and our future is to build on our strengths. And, obviously, Activision has a lot of expertise in the online space as well.

“It’s a little too premature to peg a genre or a specific type of game. We’re not quite ready to have that discussion yet”.

Jarrard also said that while it’s possible that the new game will be shown at E3 in June, right now Bungie’s sole focus is getting Reach finished, which it also plans to continue to support.

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  1. Freek

    If these rumours keep going blogs all around the net are going to quickly deplete the worlds suply of Master Chief art.

    Action must be taken, and soon! ;-)

    #1 4 years ago
  2. The Hindle

    Microsoft have pretty much lost all thier first party developers, i know they have the best 3rd party relationships going but as Sony proved you cant rely on them. Big mistake if you ask me.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. DJ Deathstar

    Surely well thought out business model regarding online would suggest MMO more than anything

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Freek

    What do you mean lost? Bungie games are still going to be on Xbox and MS own the Halo ip. They haven’t really lost that much.
    Espcially in an age where “exclusive” is almost a meaningless term.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. The Hindle

    I mean as in Bungie used to be first party, Bizarre creatons, they let Bioware slip through thier grasp as well. I know all those games will still be on thier platform but they could have been exclusive.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. DaMan

    they still have Lionhead and Realtime Worlds. they were never after first party ones anyway, those guys have enough money to buy a bunch of third party exclusives anyday.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. DJ Deathstar

    Yeah and also you forget this is an exclusive deal for an IP, its still possible that Bungie could still create games along side this for Microsoft as in the interview they did say “I can’t actually get into details on our contractual relationship with Microsoft.” Which i think sort of means they still have something going on with MS

    They have Ruffian too btw

    #7 4 years ago
  8. The Hindle

    Look at Sony from the Ps2 to the Ps3, over reliance on 3rd party exclusives was one of the factors they are where they are now. They should have bought Bizarre creatons the Biowares etc, i find it amazing they didnt.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. The Hindle

    But yea thier biggest killer app has never been a game its been Xbox Live so they will be fine.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. Erthazus

    @Daman Microsoft actually lost a lot of First party studios and 3rd party excusives that Microsoft buy is not that great at all or timed.
    If you want to look on how much they lost, go to Wikipedia

    And i don’t think so that Microsoft have better relationships with 3rd parties then Sony or Nintendo, it’s just Microsoft don’t have an option. They need 3rd party support. But the best relationship with 3rd party they had if i remember is Gears Of War. Absolutely great relationships with Epic.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. OlderGamer

    But another thing is what option did MS have? They could buy the studio outright, limit what they can create and watch the mass exodis of talent leave said studio.

    Happend with Rare. And ironicly I believe that forceing IW to be chained to CoD has lead to respawn. You have to treat your talent right. And Give them the creative freedom they need and desurve.

    Keep in mind Bungies new IP, will most likly still be on the Xbox. They didn’t defect. They aren’t a Sony Studio. They are just independant. I think MS should be aplauded for how they treated Bungie.

    The studio is still out there, still intact, still loaded with talent, and still going to be making games(that will still make their way to Xbox). Its a win win if ya ask me.

    That being said, I wouldn’t have signed my soul away to Acti if I was Bungie. But hey their call.

    #11 4 years ago
  12. DaMan

    er, Sony never actually relied on third parties that much. maybe only during PS1 vs N64/Saturn era. and they’re where they’re now because of the giant enemy crabs and $599 =)

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Erthazus

    @11 With Activision you have a good marketing campaign and they make a lot of money if you ask me for now.

    @12 They didn’t rely on 3rd paty because they don’t need that. Mirosoft just don’t have an option for now.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. reask

    I am with OG on this one.
    The games will be multi plat so still on 360.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. The Hindle

    Really? what would you call Gta lol it single handedly sold the Ps2. As did Final Fantasy, why are they still in this generation thats what ive asked myself as a £599 console is enough to make you go bust. I think what kept them in it was thier first partys.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. DJ Deathstar

    GIANT CRABS
    GIANT ENEMY CRABS
    ATTACK FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE
    BASED ON ACTUAL JAPANESE HISTORY

    woah sorry i heard mention of giant enemy crabs and went into a trance

    #16 4 years ago
  17. OlderGamer

    Sony was and still is extremly dependant on 3rd parties.

    One of the biggest reasons the PS3 has struggled is that JPs 3rd parties are handheld smitten, and western 3rd parties have been very friendly to MS/Xbox.

    Both systems need 3rd parties badly. The Wii is the only one that can survive and thrive w/o 3rd party support. 3rd party games make or break the other two systems. And in truth I would say Sony needs em more right now then MS does.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. DaMan

    @Erthazus MS ‘ve closed them themselves, like with Ensemble. they have a different business strategy, everybody knows that. “relationships” rofl, what “relationships”? they have more money than Sony or Nintendo.

    yeah, Mass Effect didn’t sell at all I agree.. hold on.

    ah, you edited.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. The Hindle

    Dont Sony have quite a lot of development studios that each make games that make quite a lot of money. Isnt thier 3rd party support as good as Microsofts as well OG?

    #19 4 years ago
  20. DaMan

    @Hindle – my point is that Sony never relied on them as much as ie MS do. GTA3 didn’t single handedly do that, it happened for several reasons, nice timing, previous success with PS1, backwards compatibiluty etc. by the time Xbox came out it was basically all over anyway.

    #20 4 years ago
  21. DaMan

    We ‘ve send a message.
    And the message was clear.
    PS3 requires huge financial investment.

    ;)

    #21 4 years ago
  22. The Hindle

    True True but if Microsoft have more money then Sony or Nintendo my point is why didnt they just buy Bioware or Bizarre.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. The Hindle

    But business is complex and what works for Sony or Nintendo may not work for Microsoft.

    #23 4 years ago
  24. Erthazus

    @Older Gamer, yes, Sony really need 3rd party support, but they can less care about 3rd party exclusives. Thats the thing. Sure MS and Sony need 3rd party support, but MS need exclusives from them and Sony not.

    + not many 3rd party publishers want to make an exclusive games for MS or Sony. PS3 and 360 have good install base and making something exclusive hurts the deal.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. DaMan

    Bioware lol? that would cost them more than it would help 360s.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Erthazus

    @25 Actually not. You are absolutely mistaken about who have more money in their pockets.
    MS execs have more money, but not Microsoft.

    Microsoft if had enough money, had an opportunity to buy everything, but we see that sony buy Media Molecule (I still don’t understand why they did it.) They produced only one title and e.t.c. They always buy something.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. OlderGamer

    Yes and no Hindle. Alot of the Sony games gain a lot of media love and attention, yet their sales don’t match expectations. HR, LBP, KZ ect all get outsold by Gears and Halo, couldn’t quote you on Fable numbers, but would expect close to the same.

    As far as 3rd parties go. They sell better on xbox. But it has been extremly important for Sony to be able to say that all/most of those 3rd party games are also avalible on their system too. In the end it reminds me much of the Saturn/PSx days. Sega had a solid line up of 1st party games. And they got most of the 3rd party games that Sony did. But the 3rd party games sold much better on the PSx. And 3rd party exclusives like from Namco, SQ, and Konami on the PSx outsold most of the 1st party games Sega had to offer.

    It isn’t that Sony doesn’t have good games in house. They do. it is just that those games don’t have the impact in the retail stores to make that much of an impact. If your a gamer, look at Sonys own IPs as bonus reasons to own a PS3.

    Also, upto this point, side by side comparasions of 3rd party games have favored Xbox over PS3. Not just for graphical performance, but also in terms of often having timmed release dates, exclusive DLC, and better marketing. Think ahead to Bungies new IP, who will spend more to promote the game MS or Sony? I think a lot goes into the big picture. But I see 3rd parties as the driving force behind both PS3 and Xbox.

    The Wii, now that is another animal all together.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. DaMan

    believe, Erthazus! Lol. why don’t you validate some of the points you make?

    history has shown that they do, at least they ‘re willing to spend more money than the other two combined.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. The Hindle

    Gears and Halo Og thats all they have that sell well, look at Microsofts other games they dont sell that well either Crackdown, Fable 2 only did 3.5m.

    HR was never expected to Gears numbers either. Sony have GT which so far has always outsold every Halo game.

    Good point on the 3rd party support though thats due to Xbox Live which is Microsofts true killer app over the competition as nothing beats it.

    Comparing LBP to Halo as well is a bit harsh maybe if you compare LBp to Banjo Kazooie nuts and bolts.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. DeSpiritusBellum

    Could Bungie be doing the next Modern Warfare?

    Activision clearly said they aimed to bring the MMO into Call of Duty, and with Treyarch doing their clone and Sledgehammer doing a seemingly standard fare spin-off, who’s going to handle that MMO CoD project?

    #30 4 years ago
  31. DaMan

    Hindle, true but what Sony games aside from GT did over 3.5 million?

    #31 4 years ago
  32. Erthazus

    @28 show prooflinks if they spent more then others (In gaming). For example Sony made a big mistake trying a fund a lot of money to PS3 + 1st party.

    How Microsoft can spend more if they have not much divisions compared to Sony. Basically, Microsoft is just a software company. Microsoft is a multinational computer technology corporation and Sony is a is a multinational conglomerate corporation nd one of the world’s largest media conglomerates with revenue exceeding $78.88 billion U.S.

    thats truth or you need to read Wikipedia.

    #32 4 years ago
  33. OlderGamer

    I can’t wait to see what kind of crazy numbers GT will generate. But I wonder, really wonder, in the western markets, will GTs online compete with Forzas…and will that have an impact on sales?

    Time will tell.

    #33 4 years ago
  34. Erthazus

    @33

    Absolutely, because:

    * Gran Turismo – 10,850,000
    * Gran Turismo 2 – 9,370,000
    * Gran Turismo 3 A-spec – 14,890,000
    * Gran Turismo Concept Series – 1,560,000
    * Gran Turismo 4: Prologue – 1,350,000
    * Gran Turismo 4 – 10,980,000
    * Gran Turismo 5: Prologue – 4,650,000
    * Gran Turismo (PSP) – 1,800,000
    Series Total – 55,450,000

    Even fucking Dead shitty PSP game sold for 18000000 copies where software sells like for 100000-200000 copies.
    Or, Prologue sold with 4 million with not a big fanbase at all. It was a start where there were no price cuts.

    #34 4 years ago
  35. DaMan

    “thats truth or you need to read Wikipedia.”
    quote of the year right there. I have a better one – that’s the truth or you need to check vgchartz.

    I don’t even need links – recovering after the disaster that was Xbox (in terms of sales), do you even know that their whole gaming division started making profit only recently?? then buying a bunch of third party exclusives (perma/timed). I don’t remember Sony doing anything like that, hell if PS3 would’ve flopped they might very well ditched the console business altogether.

    #35 4 years ago
  36. Erthazus

    @35 They don’t need to buy 3rd party if they spend on 1st party.
    They bought exclusives from 3rd parties like Heavy Rain or AGENT from Rockstar. From fucking Rockstar a GAME. They bought recently Media Molecule.
    Not to mention they spent a 60 million dollars on Gran Turismo 5.

    I’m asking 2nd time. Prooflinks on where it spends more money.

    #36 4 years ago
  37. DaMan

    btw, Erthazus just out of interest, have you ever been to this site: http://www.n4g.com/ ?

    #37 4 years ago
  38. Erthazus

    @37, yes, and i don’t like it. Next question?

    #38 4 years ago
  39. DaMan

    hahaha. “I’m asking second time” lmao.

    you speak as if I have to prove anything to every single boy who appears on the internet monthly. I don’t need to enlighten you. it’s you who needs to do their homework. like I said :
    “recovering after the disaster that was Xbox (in terms of sales), do you even know that their whole gaming division started making profit only recently?? then buying a bunch of third party exclusives (perma/timed). I don’t remember Sony doing anything like that, hell if PS3 would’ve flopped they might very well ditched the console business altogether.”

    oh, and it’s too bad you didn’t like it there. as soon as the ignore button appears you will be talking to yourself, buddy. I’ve had enough of SDF in the last 3 years.

    #39 4 years ago
  40. Filofax

    @33 GT does not have to compete with Forzas online mode. If the single player game is any good whatsoever, that’s what people will buy it for. Online is just an added bonus not the end of the world.

    #40 4 years ago
  41. OlderGamer

    http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Gran_Turismo

    Lil’ less then 225K sales in US for GT:P.

    I have been thinking that one thing that gets folk sinto a jam here, really, is that we often talk about sales as if they universial, yet we almost always are only refuring to our own region.

    My two cents:

    I am interested to see what GT does in the US verses Forza.

    No doubt that GT cleans up JP. And prolly ERU too. But I don’t live in those places. In my little corner of the world, where my real life friends and family live … we have played a fair amount of Forza. So I was wondering out loud what type of impact GT is going to have on that in terms of sales figures and hours loged in playing(Online vs Offline.)

    “@33 GT does not have to compete with Forzas online mode. If the single player game is any good whatsoever, that’s what people will buy it for. Online is just an added bonus not the end of the world”

    This too is an opinion and subjective statement. Xbox360s experience is built around offering solid online MP experiences. For them(and much of their audiance) it is indeed about the Online. Eru and JP both have very poor online infestructure on the whole compared to the NA gamer. My very average ISP gives me 15M/sec speeds w/o DL limits. I think that the reflections of gamers with poorer online is going to favor and covet the SP experience.

    My opinion is that for the most part playing by yourself is boring. Playing with friends is a lot more fun. Thats just my opinion so milage may vary. Again just one of the little differences between regions.

    #41 4 years ago
  42. Erthazus

    @No, if you don’t want to prove me it’s ok and you don’t need ignore button for me. Just ignore me already if you have problems with me.
    We speak about who spent more money. You said:

    ***at least they ‘re willing to spend more money than the other two combined.***

    now you tell this:

    ***their whole gaming division started making profit only recently??***

    What is this, has to do with the “Who spend more on products”?

    Then it’s going like this:

    “believe, Erthazus! Lol. why don’t you validate some of the points you make?”

    Believe, what is this? Is it a kindergarten level? Where is your points? I sent you to Wikipedia (Wikipedia is not a vgchartz). There is everything what you need to know and i ask you 3rd time: Prooflinks about HOW MUCH MICROSOFT SPEND ON THEIR product?

    #42 4 years ago
  43. DaMan

    sigh.

    the believe part was a joke, you do come across as a Sonybot.

    anyway,
    look: I was saying that they lost craploads on the first Xbox, and without a profitable gaming division they then managed to spend quite a lot at the start of this gen. while Sony made shitloads of money on PS2. thus, the point is that they have/’re willing to spend more money than Sony/Ninty. what’s not to understand?

    why would I need pdf docs to “prove” what’s actually happened? if you don’t believe that their gaming division didn’t turn profitable until recently, look it up yorself, it’s true. ask anyone who ‘s been around since at least last gen.

    #43 4 years ago
  44. The Hindle

    Off top of my head Daman, Resistance, Motorstorm, Uncharted 2, Mgs 4, all the others dont have updated stats.

    #44 4 years ago
  45. DaMan

    Hindle, none of those games aside from the MGs4 (duh), which I forgot didn’t make it over basically 3-3.5 million. Motorstorm did 4 at most.

    #45 4 years ago
  46. The Hindle

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/evolution-wants-motorstorm-to-dominate Motorstorm did man.

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/02/19/make-believe-from-programmer-to-naughty-dog-co-president/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PSBlog+%28PlayStation.Blog%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

    #46 4 years ago
  47. DaMan

    well, like I said.. it says Motorstorm did over 3, while Uc2 over 3.5. not surprised about the first one btw, since it was one of a few relatively enjoyable early PS3 games.

    anyway the point was actually that they’re definetely comparable to Fable2′s that you mentioned.

    #47 4 years ago
  48. The Hindle

    Aye and i was just highlighting the fact that Halo and GT aside 360 exclusives sell same amounts as the Ps3 ones.

    Whats your gamertag/psn id btw man, mine is Zero Empathy if you want to add me or give me yours and ill add you when im next on

    #48 4 years ago
  49. DaMan

    oh, okay I’ll add you, Hindle.

    #49 4 years ago