Kojima: Console will be dead “in the near future”

pc gaming is already on the go. when I travel I use my gaming laptop. steam is perfect because I can ply my games right off the internet.

I am going to get iphone at some point. I have been meaning to buy one.

yes consoles will be phase out and sooner than you think. There is a major shift taking place. Not only are major pc companies coming down on game devs and console hardware companies. a good example code masters getting their bought by a pc gaming companies and cloud gaming such as onlive . Dd is destroying retail too. Your only seeing the beginning of hardware companies problems.

This isn’t going to end well, is it?

Part of the reason this generation will go on for so long is because nobody knows what’s going to happen after this generation.

I agree to a certain point if devs could make games like MGS peace walker on a hand held as good as Kojima.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/04/07/mgs-peace-walker-gets-characters-trailer/

i hope he means the end of console exclusives and embarrassing idiots fueling console wars, no exclusive uncharted, mass effect all the best games on one platform and i would love that.

the real truth about console gaming

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/05/e3-predictions/

yes the death of consoles are coming faster than you think too as well.

this console generation has more than pissed off the top of the food chain for gaming. With the talk of pc gaming dying and retail. There is a major shift taking place.

@1

Do you really think Kojima was inferring that highly priced gaming laptops and desktop PCs are the future of gaming?

Ha hahahahahahahahahahahaha aha aha a ahahahaha ahaaha.

…oh sorry, you were serious? :-/

they sure will be dead at some point in the future, but saying that it “should be the same experience” is laughable, typical japanese bullshit. I know some people enjoy playing console like games on the go, but many don’t.

btw, I guess this is yet another quote taken in isolation and removed from it’s original context.

I agree with Razor’s comment. What else can be done to further approve games.

We have:

Custom soundtracks
Upgradable Storage (HDD)
Multi media functionality
Online Gaming
Wireless controllers
Motion Controls

What else can they do besides better graphics and psychics

@NGCes26294BIV

you have no idea do you? enjoy your last generation of consoles because they don’t have a future. code masters 50% percent of their share just got bought by a pc gaming company. That is just the begining of console problems.

agin cloud gaming and web base gaming is also a major threat to consoles. lets not talk about major pc gaming companies.

Consoles won’t be dead in the near future.

Reason is very simple. As long as there are console manufacturers such as Nintendo or Sony, they won’t miss the opportunity making money. If they want to create a machine they have money for that and we can’t do nothing about it.

Look at the Sony assets. 50 billion dollars. I repeat again 50 (!) Motherfucking billion dollars and you think they will just dismiss its entire division? YOU SERIOUS?

Cloud Gaming is the only thing that can make a certain generation last a little bit longer, but not completely destroy it.

Thats a reality and you can say what you want. Hate it or not, but consoles will not go in the near future.

@7 PC is not that highly priced please… Stop.

@BDH go fuck your mom, seriously, you are annoying sometimes.

@theevilaires

pc gaming has all the indie game devs new genres and playing styles will always remain on the pc.

here stuff like this will always be on pc not on consoles new cool genres like this will not be coming to console any time soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0yPm31JT8

I’m not quite sure what Kojima means…but I hope he’s right. Console gaming definitely holds our gaming experience back years, because developers cannot create anything beyond what the box is capable of. It’s a shame really, considering all the advancements in hardware that have been made in the last few years, and there’s very little games that are taking advantage of this. Instead, developers are trying to find new ways in which they can keep the same standard of graphics and make it run on consoles; for example Crysis 2.

@13 Companies like Sony, Nintendo don’t care about how consoles hold gaming experience.

Want to play Crysis 2 with max graphics? Buy a PC. Can’t? Your problems. Its a life and we can’t do something about it.

“console manufacturers ”

console manufacturers get their parts from pc gaming manufacturers. Those console are not helping those same pc manufacturers make real money.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/3192435737_6d81f4bb88.jpg

Considering the UK won’t even have a standard 2gb line in all homes in the next two years, let alone enough for HD streaming, I think it’s safe to say that cloud-based gaming is a long way away from the mainstream.

Oh, and also…

“code masters 50% percent of their share just got bought by a pc gaming company”

No it didn’t. It got bought by a private entertainment congolomerate, and ONE of their FOURTEEN subsidiaries is an online gaming portal, Zapak.com.

Get your facts straight before vommiting on the comment boards.

there is a lot more bigger powerful companies in pc gaming that will rip console gaming apart, That is just fact. Also pc gaming is fast adpting platform that means new tech will out strip console real fast. pc gaming and pc gamers are like the borg and console gaming is like the ice queen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAHW7GMbgLg

You know what, BDH is kinda right. (No, I’m not crazy!) These consoles are becoming more like PC’s really.

that private entertainment company does mustly pc games check your facts!

well that’s pretty much obvious. what he says. and one of the main reasons will be OnLive. can’t wait for that. i’m sick of of all these console/pc wars.

The guy is talking about a mobile console with the features of a boxed one. What’s with the sensationalism here? It’s an obvious move to me. Once miniaturization catches up, it would be stupid not to combine both types of consoles. Last time I checked the DS was still the best selling console in the world. Add the functionality of a boxed console and probably also a slate PC? Golden.

@1 If you want to advocate PC gaming, don’t EVER mention laptops. That’s arguably the most faulty, most unsupported, most inadequate platform for games there is.

@19 they always were outdated PC hardware and what? How is this going to finish console generation?

DeSpiritusBellum

pc gaming is already mobile apple coming out with newer pc’s

who do you think apple is market targeting here with games. There are already games for this and apple is marketing to pc gamers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBtDuFsBgyc&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yag_WKwUuA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNkqkUdUjpI

there is a huge demand for gaming laptop’s. In fact people want to play cutting edge games on laptop too. it’s the reason invida tryed come out with a powerful graphics card to support crysis.

I think people missed the point that Sony already registered: Playstation cloud.

Microsoft is doing cloud thingy too.

Its all going to be the same. Everybody will have its own little slick console and its own CLOUD service and they will use its division for exclusives.

and people don’t understand it.

pc gaming will have cloud however there will always be people making pc games that are none cloud. pc gaming will always have different kinds of game devs and indie game devs.

pc gaming will always have mod support and old games.

all those console game right now will some day end up on the pc just like every console games has from many consoles.

@20 I’m sorry, but are you really that stupid?

They are not a development or publishing company – they buy and sell other businesses, and only one of them is in any way associated with gaming, and even then it’s nothing but a mini-game site like Miniclip.

You’re like SDF – Funny sometimes, but so close to serious that I can’t help but get angry at it.

pc gaming and pc gamers are like the borg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8

game devs, console gamers and publisher who try to fight pc gaming is like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CN0fui9Nmg&feature=related

the death consoles is coming

@NGCes26294BIV

I am a really stupid I call losing billions on consoles and high production costs stupid.

they are burning money right now with consoles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TJ3Yv_vgUc

over a 11 000 console game devs bankrupt because of consoles.

even EA realized they had to make a shift from consoles to pc online gaming.

your resistance is hopeless you can not stop PC gaming down. So enjoy your last generation of consoles.

And there it is, Kojima, a man who’s games barely had mouse support on the PC said that the traditional video game console is going to die.
I will use his words to counter each and every statement that PC gaming is going to die.
God love you Kojima, you may not understand first person mouse aiming, or coherent storytelling, but God love you.

pc gaming is going run console gaming into the ground just like it will on retail. It’s only a matter of time

publishers and game devs that don’t support pc gaming will get ripped apart. companies like epic games, remedy will not be around in the future.

do you know what my favourite part of PC gaming is? Endlessly replacing parts so that I can take advantage of these ‘experiences’ that alienate large chunks of the market. Yay.

Is it impossible, that I just want to buy a box and not have to fiddle about with it bar plugging in a new gadget once in ablue moon?

@5 if you kill exclusive games then you practically kill the console as is.

BDH can you prove anything you say other than youtube clips that are completely unrelated? Give me an EA press release saying they won’t support consoles, show me something that doesn’t say the majors are not making more money on Consoles than PCs, show me something, even a leaked internal memo…. no, nothing, nada? then fuck off. indies make great things but they don’t drive the business like it or not.

Also Kojima is talking about increased mobility, PCs don’t do that. He is talking about new handhelds that are more capable of things. Such as a PSP that connects to PSN live actively, or another handheld that will bridge the gap of active and passive users (online vs offline only)

Think before you speak, or get some proof to back you up.

@Mad-elph

I like to give you tube because videos are the ultimate proof so people can see the proof. Unlike you there Mad-elph who has no no proof.

by the way I use more than just youtube vids to prove my point.

what do you call a laptop then?????? what do you call the new ipad then. man your not very bright are you??????

lattops have mobility the new ipad mobility!!!!!!!!!!

but consoles are PCs though. Look at the PS3. You can use a key board and mouse with some games (UT3 I think) and even make mods to put into that game just like the PC version.

You can connect a PC to your HDTV and use a wireless mouse and keyboard or DS3 and Duke3 to play games as well.

So I guess the console market is the PC market which would explain the fall of the PC market sales or I’m just crazy like BDH

@Mad-elph

your a retard can you please tell me what is a computer?????

do you even know what is a pc or a computer really is?

I am going to make you look your dumb!!!!!

do you that laptops are considered pc gaming too as well and so is the ipad. Just that desktop gaming pc are jst more powerful

man these console gamers are real noobs what a joke……..man I have so much faith in the human race I really do?

@7 silly boy, you can get a good gaming rig for £500ish but obviously you can go higher £700ish for abit more or go to the extremes PC Gaming doesnt always have to be expensive And if you buy the parts then build it yourself then its even better

Is £500 not ‘expensive’ now, then?

I think in the future will be less about the platform they are on. 100% agree.

Consoles dying? Yes and no.

In the near future, I expect to see cloud based services invading concoles, handhelds and PC.

Most of those devices will be light weight small, and able to play on your TV or on the go.

So yes, I agree w/Kojima. It is just that it isn’t as flashy and dramatic as the headline reads. I see it as more of an evolution of gaming and not the firey death on consoles as BDH might want to suggest.

All of this is one(maybe two) gens away, dependant on cloud working, and nothing to worry about. It should be good for most gamers, great for game devs, bad for game pubs, and really bad for brick and morter stores like Game, Gamestop, etc.

@41 but whats the point? when Sony already registered *Playstation Cloud*, Microsoft doing its own cloud stuff…

Its all going to be the same shit as before. We all going to see 8th generation of consoles with cloud gaming.

@OlderGamer

ahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahah

consoles are turning into pc ‘s in fact open them consoles up you can run any kind of OS.

pc gaming is destroying consoles gaming. by the way pc gaming will not only have cloud gaming but it have many types of games and gaming. Yea pc gaming will always have none cloud games too!

sony is losing money on them super computers with the ps3

heck even web based gaming is treat to them consoles. You can now run console graphics for a web based game and the best part it all free for pc gamers.

Sure consoles are PC like machines, but closed systems that have fewer upgrades are much more widely distributed than PC gaming. PC component manufacturers are supported they standard contracts of parts supplies to console and non-gaming focused PCs.

Yes I know a laptop can run, but we suffer bandwidth problems and most laptops don’t have 3G or other cell phone service. So its all just local gaming, unless you are at a hub for wifi, which is no different than sitting at home (therefore it is not mobile)

I like that you mentioned the iPad, its a closed system, not a PC and can be used as a mobile gaming device. It is WAY more like a console than a PC, so please explain how it shows that PC will defeat consoles.

You vids don’t prove anything, they never have. The E3 vid didn’t suggest consoles were dead, but rather that their life would be extended by new peripherals.

Once you can get a laptop that is not dependent on a wifi connection to access Steam or whatever, then you get said device in the hands of millions and have it openly modded not locked to a closed service then maybe maybe PCs will dominate. But you won’t the more focused the mobile space becomes (iPad, PSP, Handheld) and smaller the devices become (harder for Joe public to slip in a new graphics card) then you have people locked to a dependent system (which is no different from consoles).

Sure some people can mod their laptops, but few do. Laptops are crippled in hardware do to space constraints and heat.

Plus many companies make more money from console game sales than PCs simply do to a dedicated install base be it 20 million PS3 or whatever vs. the millions of PCs that can’t play the games plus the millions who don’t buy the games.

If you can show me something that says devs make more money across the board on PC games than consoles, in sales and in profit then you will see devs moving away from consoles. but since the majority of people buy consoles and game on consoles and support console developed games with hard cold cash, instead of stealing it online for PC then you will not see devs move away from consoles. period. Cloud service or not.

your closed system is on it’s death bed!

you will not be runing games like this any time soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhd6okJjLbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w1CHff8bxM

You can run any type of OS on a console?
Only with a lot of work.
The PS3 still hasn’t been hacked, and has had it’s Linux capability removed.
That doesn’t strike me as any kind of OS.

Consoles may be dead soon. But I doubt PC gaming will be what takes over.
Not everyone can afford stupidly expensive rigs, and Indie games can’t sustain a rampant market that requires constant fulfilment.

@Eregol

wow your a real noob sony ps3 has been hacked along time ago. In fact sony’s OS has been dumb onto the internet.

I am sure hackers are going made picking sony’s software apart.

keep pissing off pc gamers and you will have more than just hacked consoles.

not only consoles will be attack by big companies. there is the pc gaming hackers.

Ultimately as long as I have thumbs I’ll have a console

pc gaming will run console gaming into the ground yea pc gaming has game pads too.

just as good for your thumbs

PS I am an owner of Macs, I play on consoles because it is a better experience. Who needs the headache of dealing wiht drivers and new upgrades ever 6 months to play the newest game etc. The fact that morons pay $600 for a vid card then complain that $600 console with a few games is expensive shows that the people who support PCs are silly.

YES PC games can have more avenues of opportunity for development. But that is because of the mouse and keyboard. Devs of console games have designed their games to be simple. They want to make the interaction simple so more people buy it. When you have a keyboard with 80plus keys vs a controller with 12 then you are more free to develop things, therefore you get RTS games on PCs vs consoles. But that does not mean the death of consoles.

It all comes down to closed system (console) vs open (PC) as that is what you’ve argued before. When an open system (PC or laptop) becomes so widely accepted as the only way to play then we’ll see the death of consoles. But that is not the way things are going. People are seeing closed systems as better. Develop a game/app for iPhone or iPad and you will sell more. The iPad or iPhone is closed in much the same way consoles are.

Cloud will only truely be free and PC like when every phone can connect to the same serivce, not locked to Apple, BBs, Nokia etc… Until then the cloud generation will sell you a box to sit besides your TV that connects to a closed system somewhere.

ahahahahahahahahahahahaa

really now pc gaming is huge. pc gaming has soo meny games that even EA has to move over to pc gaming online. online is the home to pc gamers.

how are those over 11 000 bankuprt console game devs doing these days.

do you even know what cloud gaming is….it’s a super computer.

an open system is trash just like the ice queen is trash. the borg will out grow a close system.

console gaming is at the bottom of the food that is fact!

hardware companies don’t make money on old hardware.