North America gets 360 FFXIII bundle

The whole ‘FF on Xbox’ thing…. It still doesn’t seem quite real.

It will still probably sell better on PS3.

Probably, yes.

Dosnt really matter, it’ll no doubt sell more in the US on 360 and we wont get European numbers any time soon.

IT WILL LOOK SHITTIER ON FLOPPYXATIONTREII, like all multiplataform titles.

Well, I’ve decided I’m not getting it. I’m not particularly excited about it and I’ve got tons of other great stuff that I’d rather be playing. I might pick it up once it hits the bargain bins.

Same

I’ve got Mass Effect 2 to finish, buy Bioshock2 today, then Heavy Rain after that, then 2-3 weeks later is GoW3.

Not a very exciting looking console is it? Just a plain white Xbox with no designs or logos stencilled on it. At least the Japanese FFXIII PS3 had a white casing and a poncey design carved into it.

I’ve got the game on order for the 360 (pre-ordered it before I got a PS3), but I strongly suspect it will be like all JRPGs: I’ll make it about halfway through and then get bored and give up. I’ve only ever managed to finish one FF game, FFVI.

Your loss, whusses.

Means one more copy for me.

“It will still probably sell better on PS3.”

Doesn’t really matter considering the money is all going to the same company anyway.

Though it’s gonna be hilarious to see the fanboy’s faces if this *does* end up selling better on the 360. The console has a higher attach rate per machine, at a lead of at least 8 million units, so it’s perfectly possible.

No way will it sell better on 360, It’s nigh impossible given It’s exclusivity in Japan.

I can see it selling more on 360 in america… but not europe.

It’ll be interesting to see how well it actually sells. Do Westerners still want this kind of game? I expect it to do well because of its pedigree, but… something feels different this time around.

that’s what i meant, worldwide. the PS3 version is in the top 10 pre-orders on play.com whereas the 360 version is nowhere to be seen.
either way i don’t care, i got Bioshock 2 last night using my Nectar points from Sainsbury’s, it’s good to be back in Rapture.
@itsucks please go back to N4G you cock.
plus michael, it’s only 5.5 million not 8.

I’d bet on the PS3 version selling more in Japan and Europe but less than the 360 in America. Overall, I’d expect the PS3 version to come out on top, but I imagine that margin to be closer than some might expect it to be.

Whichever console it sells more on you can be sure we’ll never hear the end of it. We all lose either way.

Not a very exciting looking console is it? Just a plain white Xbox with no designs or logos stencilled on it

Supposedly that’s just a placeholder image… especially given the spec sheet says the console is black.

If Garrett Lee is to be believed, the PS3 version will outsell 360 2:1……….

…. .HA!

“No way will it sell better on 360, It’s nigh impossible given It’s exclusivity in Japan.”

I meant in the west specifically. I.E. Europe and America.

It doesn’t matter either way. Even if it sells exactly the same amount on both people will still argue about it.

Do people really want a special edition console with shit stencilled on it? I always think they look awful.

Do people really want a special edition console with shit stencilled on it? I always think they look awful.

Apparently. I think the ltd edition FF PS3 looks like FF meets PS3 meets My Little Pony… but what do I know?

I don’t know, Psychotext. I would quite like a Bayonetta SE Xbox 360 if they ever did one and I was filthy rich.

The only one of those things I ever really rated was the Gunmetal Grey PS3 they did for MGS4.

It’s unlikely, but if they were to ever bring that Lightning PS3 to Europe, I’d buy one in a shot.

Need to replace my PS3 anyways.

It’s awful though. Pink on white? I know everyone has different opinions, but blech.

We may be suprised by which version will have most sales in EU and US with this one
If you check many EU and US online stores,sites e.t.c of all upcoming games on every console FFXIII on the ps3 is no1 to no3 on the preorders list while the 360 version barely touches the 10th place or even the 20th place on their lists

In Europe there’s not going to be any competition. In US it’s going to come down to whoever gets exclusive marketing.

(I wouldn’t pay much attention to pre-order lists btw… they rarely seem to reflect reality for some reason. Especially when it’s places like Amazon.)

If past JRPGS are to go by, 360 owners dont seem to be into them at all.

To be fair, most JRPGs sell bugger all regardless of platform if they don’t have ‘Final Fantasy’ in the title. It’s only the niche hardcore JRPG fanboys who pick up more than the biggest of titles, so it’s hardly surprising that the 360 JRPGs so far have all underperformed. Of course, it doesn’t help matters that most of them were rubbish too.

Having said all that, I’d be very surprised if FFXIII doesn’t win out on PS3, even in the US. But I don’t think you can count the 360 version out of the running based on the performance of other titles.

There’s been a grand total of 0 JPRGs which have had any significant success this gen outside of Japan on either platform. There are absolutely none in the ELSPA sales awards (UK) for example… and it only takes 100k sales to get there.

In the US, only Lost Odyssey and Demon’s Souls have managed to show up in the top 20 in their launch months… with 200k and 155k respectively. That’s on virtually identical userbases at the launch of each game (9.2m for 360, 8.7m for PS3).

Psycho ,preorder lists are pretty accurate on the outcome when many multiplatform titles seem outselling on the 360 rather than the ps3…now it’s the other way around with this title.
I don’t see why it can’t be possible the ps3 version outselling the 360 one in US too.
And as TH mentioned when it comes to JRPG’s the majority of the 360′s userbase isn’t very fond of them
Give a Halo,MW or ME and you’ve got their attention

See my last post zoop. In the US and UK at least, they’re virtually identical in lack of popularity. Like it or not, JRPGs are a dying genre outside of Japan.

As for pre-order lists being accurate… they never have been to any significant degree. If you want proof, take a look back through some of the older examples on vgchartz (I assume that’s where you’re getting them from).

It might help their sales if any of the JRPGs released this generation were actually good.

I’m not saying they are accurate 100% but they’re very close most of the times.
No it’s not vgchartz where i get the preorder lists info.I check on multiple sites.

There are some differences with Lost Odyssey and Demon’s Souls.
Back when Lost Odyssey was released people were really anticipating a next gen Jrpg(since there weren’t any,only if you count one or two)thus it got these sales with 9.2m 360 userbase…right now the Jrpg hype has toned down a lot in comparisson with back then.

Demon’s Souls is made by Japanese developers but it doesn’t fit in the “jrpg” genre at all plus a lot of people were frustrated and kinda being put off by it’s difficulty thus it’s sales with the 8.7m ps3 userbase

You have to be kidding me… Demon’s Souls was a success specifically because it’s seen as difficult. It’s exactly why hardcore gamers jumped all over it and it got such strong word of mouth.

But anyway, you’re missing the point. If you take away both of those games (which you seem intent on doing)… you get a grand total of zero JRPGs which have had any impact in the west this generation. That leads me to believe that you’re basing your “JRPGs more popular on PS3″ conclusion on absolutely zero evidence, circumstantial or otherwise.

(Oh, and there were a couple of “next gen” JRPGs which came out before Lost Odyssey. Not least Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata.)

I’m not a huge fan of stencilling shit on a console either, but a custom paint job can be nice, like the Dreamcast Maziora.

Valkryia Chronicles did fairly well in the Us i think selling 150k aint sure where i read that so its up to you if you think its credible. As for Ps3 JRPGs there has hardly been any at all as the 360 has had most of them.

I’m going a bit more exhaustive checking into it all right now. Will post back with some extra info (specifically related to Euro charts).

JRPGs this gen have been, for the most part, absolutely terrible.

These are the only ones I can think of that were worth any time investment in: Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, Eternal Sonata, Valkyria Chronicles, and Demon Souls.

Valkryia chronicles is just a brilliant game, cant recommend it enough and i hope the series returns to the Ps3 one day

Demon’s souls is a success by the hardcore gamers but if the difficulty was toned down just a little bit it would be the same for hardcore gamers and even more success by a much wider audience.

360 had some Jrpg’s this gen after Lost Odyssey…Star Ocean,Last Remnant,Infinite Undiscovery,Tales Of Vesperia which didn’t have any real impact in the West…Star Ocean is a very popular title so does Tales of Vesperia for the hardcore Jrpg’s gamers(BTw i did mentioned there weren’t any Jrpg’s when Lost Odyssey came out except one or two meaning very very, few which are the ones you mentioned)

I think you misunderstood me Psycho…i never said that Jrpg’s are more popular on the ps3 per se but 360 has already a line up of Jrpg’s .Ps3 is now starting to grow it’s Jrpg line up and let’s be subjective here most people know that the ps3 version of this title is “superior” in a way…(even if it’s only audio uncompressed, video 1080p all in one disc it still can be called “superior”)and most of these people who have the choice between both version are probably going with the ps3 one and BIG fans of the FF franchise who don’t own a ps3 will probably get it for FF just for the slight superiority over the 360.
Bottom line Jrpg’s aren’t more popular on the ps3 than the 360.FFXIII is more popular on the ps3 than 360…
and i’m just saying that we could see a turn over here with US sales than we used to

Ps.I know i may be flamed for calling the ps3 version superior but let’s be subjective here…if these priviledges were on the 360 instead almost everyone everywhere would rush out to call it the superior version…so let’s not hide behind our finger

It just doesnt look right…

@39 a jrpg with a decent plot and generic gameplay (LO) is worth checking out, and the one with generic plot and decent gameplay (SO4) isn’t? that’s a balanced opinion.

I’ve done a little research. Adding to the above information about the two JRPGs which charted in the US (Lost Odyssey and Demon’s Souls) I’ve scoured the old PAL top 20 all formats charts for how other JRPGs have done on launch.

Blue Dragon – Spain #3, UK #9 (Possibly others, couldn’t find all the data for that far back)

Folklore – Did not chart in PAL regions.
Eternal Sonata – Did not chart in PAL regions.

Lost Odyssey – Italy #3, Spain #3, Sweden #4, UK #5, Australia #8, Netherlands #8, Ireland #12.

Tales of Vesperia – Did not chart in PAL regions.
Valkyria Chronicles – Did not chart in PAL regions.
Last Remnant – Did not chart in PAL regions.
Demon’s Souls – No PAL release.
Star Ocean 4 – Sweden #5.

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That was fairly interesting. So basically the only JRPG to have any sort of success worldwide this gen has been Lost Odyssey.

“@39 a jrpg with a decent plot and generic gameplay (LO) is worth checking out, and the one with generic plot and decent gameplay (SO4) isn’t? that’s a balanced opinion.”

Lost Odyssey has a generic plot?

Yeah, I know *loads* of maturely told and decently acted JRPGs starring one thousand year old *men* (a JRPG with an adult cast is, in itself, a miracble) dealing with the struggles they have seen and faced through their extended life.

Lost Odyssey was vastly more mature than Star Ocean 4 could ever hope to be. I a very proud to admit, as a grown man of 28 years young, that Lost Odyssey is one of a handful of games to make me cry. And twice, at that.

It’s gameplay was rather traditional, but what it did it did well.

Star Ocean 4′s gameplay is decent too, but the game drags itself on far, far too long. The amount of combat required to get anywhere in it is so excessive that it becomes nauseating and a chore. Everything from its plot to its acting to its character design is a step backwards.

Not to mention the absolutely ridiculous disc swapping (on the 360 version, at least) – disc swapping between important events? That’s fine. Disc swapping just to go to different locations? That’s just retarded game design.

“uncompressed video”

Stop that. lol. Uncompressed video would be impossible, unless you wanted to fill a dual layer blu-ray with only a few minutes worth.

Anyway, as informative as this all was… Fantasy Fantasy doesn’t count because more than anything else, it’s Final Fantasy.

At least that’s what advantages SE claims ps3 version has

Psycho stop with the technicalities and being sarcastic where you can do a lot better than that…to oppose to an opinion.don’t make me lose respect on you

It’s not a technicality. Uncompressed audio, yes. Uncompressed 1080p video takes upward of 150mb per SECOND. You’d fit 6 minutes of it on a dual layer blu-ray.

I’ve seen “uncompressed video” posted as fact, a lot, and it’s annoying.

@45

uh. first of, if you actually read my comment I said LO has generic gameplay.

I take it SMT Nocturne was a god awful game, because it was basically screen swirling-take three steps-screen swirling for 80 hours. and, in other words SO4 has too much gameplay? it’s combat (tweaked Till The End of Time)is deeper than any other jrpg released so far, except probably VP2 Silmeria.

also that disc swapping you’ve read about was at the very end of the game, you only had to do that for sidequests.

Psycho you misunderstood again…i said ” audio uncompressed, video 1080p” (that didn’t go with the uncompressed video)pay attention dear
But i didn’t know that altogether…thanks for the info.
Still Full HD cinematics and uncompressed AUDIO are quite the privileges for some people on the ps3 version