Sat, Feb 06, 2010 | 15:50 GMT
BioWare defends tame lovin’ scenes in Mass Effect 2

BioWare’s Stanley Woo has responded to a forum discussion on the firm’s official site, where folks in it are complaining that the horizontal scenes in Mass Effect 2 are tamer than in the original.
In the forum, a post suggested that BioWare cracked under the scrutiny it received over Mass Effect 1 from a certain media outlet.
This outlet shall not be named, lest we call upon the dark evil forces that possess it – well, and you all know which one it was anyway.
“People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship,” said Woo, who works in quality assurance. “They generally don’t believe that a game can be called ‘mature’ without explicit sex and/or nudity.
“Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it.
“We have never considered it a ‘problem,’ it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.”
Great response. Still, if you want a less tame mclovin’ scene, there’s always Dragon Age: Origins, although, you better make sure you choose the right dialogue – otherwise, it’s only a cold dip in a river for you mister/miss.
Thanks, Cinemablend.


34 comments
#1
Jadeskye
06/02/10, 3:52 pm
i think they were better. the most erotic scenes are not always the most explicit.
#2
Stephany Nunneley
06/02/10, 3:53 pm
I have no idea, personally. I have yet to get it on virtually with anything pixilated outside of a game starring Kratos.
#3
Jadeskye
06/02/10, 3:54 pm
i would not be opposed to getting it on with blue women from illium personally. i have a hard enough time getting it on with human women from london :p
and incidently steph, it’s okay to get your pixelated rocks off from time to time.
#4
Stephany Nunneley
06/02/10, 3:55 pm
LOL! My response was not a well thought out one was it?
#5
Jadeskye
06/02/10, 3:58 pm
haha, we love you steph! and i don’t mind if you have some questionable games in your library for ‘personal’ use >_>
#6
Stephany Nunneley
06/02/10, 4:00 pm
#7
endgame
06/02/10, 4:03 pm
w8 a sec. what is this “if you want a less tame mclovin’ scene, there’s always Dragon Age: Origins”? as far as i know the sex scenes r the same, as in u see as much in dao as u see in me2. idk, maybe i’m wrong. am i?
#8
Stephany Nunneley
06/02/10, 4:32 pm
Just by watching the scene from ME2 that leaked, compared to the leaked one for DAO – DAO was a bit more spicy is all. Not “revealing” just “spicy”.
#9
onlineatron
06/02/10, 4:37 pm
Steph has the whole Leisure Suit Larry back catalogue in her collection
#10
Hunam
06/02/10, 4:40 pm
I’ve not seen any in Mass Effect 2, but I thought the sex scenes in Mass Effect 1 were exceptionally well done, probably the best it’s been done in a video game to date to be honest.
#11
YoungZer0
06/02/10, 4:58 pm
Yeah, yeah blah blah blah. You know even sex can be beautiful and artsy if done right. With this Bioware showed us that they were too afraid to show something. I excepted to see some breasts because I love women breasts. But as far as i know the only nudity you see is from Jacob.
The Sex-Scene in Dragon Age was also a freaking joke. Seriously? Thanks god there are “kinky sex mods” that change that. A shame that this won’t be possible with ME2.
I remember the interactive Sex-Scene in the european version of Indigo Prophecy. It didn’t hurt the game, it didn’t even hurt the characters. I really liked the way Heavy Rain handled nudity in the shower scene. It was like: Erm, yeah these are breasts, move on.
So yeah, i think the statement is pretentious.
#12
Neolucifer
06/02/10, 5:45 pm
I love how their statement that what Fox news says have no bearing on them , when right after the “controversity” with ME1 , DA and ME2 suddenly went tame and akward in that area .
No one even asked you to do sex scenes and romances in the first place , dear Bioware . But now that you’ve decided to , it’s only natural to get criticism for awkward sex scenes in DA and ME2 and lousy romance dialogues in DA .
#13
Phoenixblight
06/02/10, 6:19 pm
Alright that was taken completely out of context. Read the entire topic most of the idiots were saying Bioware cracked under pressure when Stanley WOo was saying they did not make the choice based on Fox NEws.Fox News did attack ME and then EA went against with those attacks of it being a porn game and Fox retracted it.
Stanley Woo Quote:
You are absolutely correct. It is not our job to parent the child or determine what content is acceptable or unaceptable for our players. But on the other hand, it is not your jobe to dictate what content we include or don’t include in our games. Game development is not a collaborative effort between developers and gamers; it is a dictatorship, where we alone determine what content goes into our game. You the player make the choice whether that content is acceptable to you (and/or your family) or not.
#14
sg1974
06/02/10, 9:17 pm
Message to those who have complained about ME2 sex scenes:
Get a girlfriend, lose your virginity, and shut up.
#15
Michael O’Connor
06/02/10, 9:41 pm
This is why I love BioWare.
They don’t feel the need or paranoia to write out some cookie-cutter response for fear of offending the player-base, because they know where they stand and they have the decency to stand by it.
The only thing you ever got to see in Mass Effect 1 was a woman’s ass anyway.
#16
Hunam
06/02/10, 9:43 pm
It’s simply the fact that in ME1 they fuck naked, where in ME2/DAO, it’s dry humping. Nobody over the age of 15 dry humps.
#17
Michael O’Connor
06/02/10, 9:50 pm
Nobody needs to know about my personal life, but the assumption that “nobody over the age of 15 dry humps” is complete bollocks. And its clear they have sex. You just don’t see it in OOOH EMMM GEEE CLOSE UP GRATUITOUS DETAIL!
You could also argue that just because they’re naked, doesn’t mean they had sex.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the scenes in Mass Effect 1 were tastefully done, but Mass Effect 2 is intended a grittier game and the sex scenes in it reflect that. People are just disappointed because they don’t get to see Yvonne Strahovski’s virtual tits.
#18
Aimless
06/02/10, 10:03 pm
If people were going to complain about the relationship angle surely they should focus on the traditional BioWare pitfall of “zero to love in 60 seconds”. Not enough suffering and abject misery for my liking.
#19
DarkElfa
06/02/10, 10:09 pm
4 things, first, You go Steph. Second, if they delivered a sex scene similar to the one in watchmen I think it would make me uncomfortable. Third, Fuck Fox News and fourth, there is no such thing as mature game developers.
#20
Stephany Nunneley
06/02/10, 10:18 pm
@9 – you been going through my stuff again?
#21
No_PUDding
06/02/10, 10:49 pm
Wow. “Michael O’Connor spills all” VG247 exclusive.
“Last Night at an impromptu conference organised by John Terry’s lawyer, it was outed that Michael O’Connor and he had been having a same sex, dry humping fest for the past 6 months, and that John Terry had paid some of the Sunday papers to keep quiet”
Nothing like sensationalism. I just love it.
#22
Michael O’Connor
06/02/10, 11:24 pm
LOL
#23
YoungZer0
07/02/10, 12:46 am
I love how people think this has anything to do with people not getting laid. I know some backyard Neanderthals think that Sex is something dirty (It can be, if done right) and primitive, and we should all be ashamed of it. But that’s simply not true. Sex can be so much more. It can be such a beautiful experience. The romantic-scene with Jack was beautiful for example. When she hugged Shepard and started crying. But it would have been more powerful if they showed Jack’s breasts. Showing her naked, vulnerable.
Why is it okay to kill russian civilians on an airport but when it comes to breasts and sex everyone is like “Oh, we don’t need that. We are too grown up for this.”? It’s like excluding the blood and violence in FPS.
#24
Phoenixblight
07/02/10, 1:52 am
THeir the artist they make the choice on what they want and don’t want. Bioware as stated did not make the cut because of Fox they simply decided not to whatever the reason. Stanley WOo said it best its not a collaborative effort between consumer and Game developer its a dictatorship. They make the choices, we decide if those choices are good or not with our money.
#25
YoungZer0
07/02/10, 2:07 am
He can say what he wants, but it’s more than unbelievable. I think they just didn’t have the balls for it.
#26
Phoenixblight
07/02/10, 3:45 am
But they have the balls for F/F, M/M sex uh huh sure. /sarcasm
#27
GitForceGemini
07/02/10, 6:15 am
That was far from a ‘great response’. That was them saying: “It’s our prerogative if we want an 18-rated game to feature sex scenes that you could get away with in Bob the Builder.”
The consumer wants blue space titties, dammit! (or, at the very least, sideboob)
#28
Gheritt White
07/02/10, 1:13 pm
PENETRATION
#29
Hunam
07/02/10, 1:23 pm
Damn raccoons and cephalopods, always so rude.
#30
Malfet
07/02/10, 2:36 pm
Wanna get some videogame sex? Play some Illusion Soft games.
Wanna play some space-odyssey rpg? Play ME2.
Easy as that
ps – still, 2 devs: well, if you decided to include bedtime in game, but afraid of shortcomings – use good old “black screen & oomph!” method, not some “guess what they doing?” scenes.
#31
No_PUDding
07/02/10, 4:21 pm
I have kind of always understood Fox on this Mass Effect and GTA subject.
And while I support the games, and not Fox, I do get it.
Either sex (and many other taboos) is portrayed gratuitously, which was brave and defining in terms of GTA, or it’s protrayed in a game that’s main interaction undermines and discredits the sex scenes. And they too become gratuitous because of it.
If they do the same to Heavy Rain, then we’ll know Fox dislikes videogames, and arent just scared – but actually informed.
#32
Phoenixblight
07/02/10, 5:03 pm
@Pudding
Fox retracted their statement about the first Mass Effect because they never played the game and was just shooting shit out of their mouths (like normal)
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/01/mass-effect-mes/
#33
Psychotext
07/02/10, 5:30 pm
“If they do the same to Heavy Rain, then we’ll know Fox dislikes videogames, and arent just scared – but actually informed.”
/attempts to calculate possibility of Fox being informed
/calculator explodes
#34
Gheritt White
07/02/10, 5:33 pm
Whilst all of your points are valid, I’m not sure they bring me any closer to having sex with Jessica Chobot.
…I’m sorry, what were we talking about?