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		<title>By: shenxu</title>
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		<title>By: Ceejay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well concept. That sounds a bit like a Duke Nukem story, but at least we got FF XIII in the end.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well concept. That sounds a bit like a Duke Nukem story, but at least we got FF XIII in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O’Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O’Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, but during the period we’re discussing the important Square Enix franchises like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Front Mission, Kingdom Hearts, etc, all had their main sequels on Sony hardware. There were a few side-stories and remakes on other systems, but not the wholesale commitment to other platforms that we see today.&quot;

Things have changed little since the PS2 era. Square supports the winners. The PS2 completely dominated the last generation - it was in the 100 million plus margin before the Xbox even hit 20 million.

The playing field is far more even nowadays, with Sony and Microsoft sharing a much more even portion of the software market. Unless you&#039;re owned by the console producer or can secure a major exclusive deal, it&#039;s madness to go single format nowadays, unless you wanna see your company die a quick date.

People had this very same discussion when Square got into bed with Sony after dropping Nintendo. This is no different.

Times change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, but during the period we’re discussing the important Square Enix franchises like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Front Mission, Kingdom Hearts, etc, all had their main sequels on Sony hardware. There were a few side-stories and remakes on other systems, but not the wholesale commitment to other platforms that we see today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Things have changed little since the PS2 era. Square supports the winners. The PS2 completely dominated the last generation &#8211; it was in the 100 million plus margin before the Xbox even hit 20 million.</p>
<p>The playing field is far more even nowadays, with Sony and Microsoft sharing a much more even portion of the software market. Unless you&#8217;re owned by the console producer or can secure a major exclusive deal, it&#8217;s madness to go single format nowadays, unless you wanna see your company die a quick date.</p>
<p>People had this very same discussion when Square got into bed with Sony after dropping Nintendo. This is no different.</p>
<p>Times change.</p>
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		<title>By: Bulk Slash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bulk Slash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;IBM were supposed to deliver the Cell in 2005, so I don’t think the PS3 was early.&quot;

True, IBM were certainly late, and they had to disable an SPU to keep yields acceptable in the end, but even if IBM were on top of things, Sony were very late with the dev kits. Developers didn&#039;t even have basic prototype hardware to work with only months before launch, and the RSX was downclocked 50MHz very late in the game. 

Plus there&#039;s the overall cost of the PS3. Releasing a year later would have meant cheaper components, especially Blu-Ray diodes. I think Sony wanted to launch Christmas 2007 but they just couldn&#039;t wait that long with Microsoft already on the market.

&quot;Considering that Square has been releasing titles on all formats left right and centre for years now, I’m not sure what decade you’re living in.&quot;

Yes, but during the period we&#039;re discussing the important Square Enix franchises like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Front Mission, Kingdom Hearts, etc, all had their main sequels on Sony hardware. There were a few side-stories and remakes on other systems, but not the wholesale commitment to other platforms that we see today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;IBM were supposed to deliver the Cell in 2005, so I don’t think the PS3 was early.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, IBM were certainly late, and they had to disable an SPU to keep yields acceptable in the end, but even if IBM were on top of things, Sony were very late with the dev kits. Developers didn&#8217;t even have basic prototype hardware to work with only months before launch, and the RSX was downclocked 50MHz very late in the game. </p>
<p>Plus there&#8217;s the overall cost of the PS3. Releasing a year later would have meant cheaper components, especially Blu-Ray diodes. I think Sony wanted to launch Christmas 2007 but they just couldn&#8217;t wait that long with Microsoft already on the market.</p>
<p>&#8220;Considering that Square has been releasing titles on all formats left right and centre for years now, I’m not sure what decade you’re living in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but during the period we&#8217;re discussing the important Square Enix franchises like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Front Mission, Kingdom Hearts, etc, all had their main sequels on Sony hardware. There were a few side-stories and remakes on other systems, but not the wholesale commitment to other platforms that we see today.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenixblight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenixblight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well concept, and making a new engine. I don&#039;t think they were actually working on it around 2003. Afterall Tetsuya Nomura was in the middle of developement for KH 2 during that time. It could have easily been early concept and waiting for Nomura to be done with KH 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well concept, and making a new engine. I don&#8217;t think they were actually working on it around 2003. Afterall Tetsuya Nomura was in the middle of developement for KH 2 during that time. It could have easily been early concept and waiting for Nomura to be done with KH 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know that different teams worked on different FF&#039;s... that aside.  Working on it from around the start of 2003? (If you take what they say as gospel)  That&#039;s fucking madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know that different teams worked on different FF&#8217;s&#8230; that aside.  Working on it from around the start of 2003? (If you take what they say as gospel)  That&#8217;s fucking madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenixblight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenixblight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Psycho

Different teams. Thats the way its been with all FFs.</description>
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<p>Different teams. Thats the way its been with all FFs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O’Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O’Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Square are one of Sony’s most important third parties...&quot;

Considering that Square has been releasing titles on all formats left right and centre for years now, I&#039;m not sure what decade you&#039;re living in.

&quot;They would have known about it in 2004… which begs the question, why were they working on XIII two years before XII was released?&quot;

Why wouldn&#039;t they? It&#039;s pretty common practise in the industry to work on titles in tandem.

Example: Call of Duty. Treyarch didn&#039;t start working on World at War after Call of Duty 4 came out... they&#039;d already been working on it for well over a year when CoD4 hits the shelves.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Square are one of Sony’s most important third parties&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering that Square has been releasing titles on all formats left right and centre for years now, I&#8217;m not sure what decade you&#8217;re living in.</p>
<p>&#8220;They would have known about it in 2004… which begs the question, why were they working on XIII two years before XII was released?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t they? It&#8217;s pretty common practise in the industry to work on titles in tandem.</p>
<p>Example: Call of Duty. Treyarch didn&#8217;t start working on World at War after Call of Duty 4 came out&#8230; they&#8217;d already been working on it for well over a year when CoD4 hits the shelves.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They would have known about it in 2004... which begs the question, why were they working on XIII two years before XII was released?

...possibly even earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would have known about it in 2004&#8230; which begs the question, why were they working on XIII two years before XII was released?</p>
<p>&#8230;possibly even earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: RomaTotti10</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomaTotti10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a bad excuse to me. The PS3 came out in 2006 and Square must have known this some time before. So this means FF XIII has been in development for more than 5 years. That sounds a bit like a Duke Nukem story, but at least we got FF XIII in the end. Hope it can live up to all hype and our expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a bad excuse to me. The PS3 came out in 2006 and Square must have known this some time before. So this means FF XIII has been in development for more than 5 years. That sounds a bit like a Duke Nukem story, but at least we got FF XIII in the end. Hope it can live up to all hype and our expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBM were supposed to deliver the Cell in 2005, so I don&#039;t think the PS3 was early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBM were supposed to deliver the Cell in 2005, so I don&#8217;t think the PS3 was early.</p>
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		<title>By: Bulk Slash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bulk Slash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d think Sony would keep Square more in the loop about their plans. Square are one of Sony&#039;s most important third parties and yet they didn&#039;t let them know the roadmap for the PS3. 

Then again, I think Sony took the PS3 to market a year earlier than they wanted because of the 360. Really the dev kits needed another year of polishing and the hardware suffered a number of down-clocks and cut-backs to ensure yields were good enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think Sony would keep Square more in the loop about their plans. Square are one of Sony&#8217;s most important third parties and yet they didn&#8217;t let them know the roadmap for the PS3. </p>
<p>Then again, I think Sony took the PS3 to market a year earlier than they wanted because of the 360. Really the dev kits needed another year of polishing and the hardware suffered a number of down-clocks and cut-backs to ensure yields were good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: BabyJesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>BabyJesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, why didn&#039;t you just put it out for the PS2 then?

It&#039;s not like the PS2 suddenly lost its install base as soon as the ps3 was sold, quite the opposite actually :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, why didn&#8217;t you just put it out for the PS2 then?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like the PS2 suddenly lost its install base as soon as the ps3 was sold, quite the opposite actually :/</p>
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