New Heavy Rain trailer released, everyone goes wow

This game will undersell.

Looks like a very unique gaming experience. Definite purchase for me.

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Good trailer and it left me in tingles

This is a definite purchase for me and i’ll def get the collector’s edition

@1 because you clearly don’t like it?
There are other genres beside shooters(which they are killing the gaming industry) you know?
Variety…look in to it.

The game looks promising and many people are looking forward to it.
Very nice trailer indeed

It’s going to undersell because your average gamer wont understand it, that doesn’t take away from the quality of the game at all.

I’d be extremely (but pleasantly) surprised if it can do more than a million world wide in the first couple of months.

Shooters are killing the gaming industry? No wonder Infinity Ward are getting out.

Psycho i have read in many sites and forums that there are many people who will buy a Ps3 just for this game and most of them are PC users who love Pure adventure…and that’s what this is
If the game really delivers it’s not going to undersell but off course we don’t expect huge numbers like a MW kind of thing

PT hit it Zoop. Spot on hit it. I don’t think the game will appeal to enough gamers.

And for what it is worth I am with you 100% about FPS being over done and hurting the game market. I would kill for a well done sequel to say Untold Legands: Dark Kingdom, or a well done update to Champions of Norath. I love hack and slash rpg, but not interested in Bayoneta or GoW games because they are all flash, no substance, and no real RPG. That whole genere(one of my all time favs) is pretty empty right now.

I read that Killzone 2 was going to be one of the biggest selling games ever, and it would sell millions of PS3s… but then I realise that forums account for a tiny percentage of gamers and rarely reflect reality.

As for PC adventure game players bumping up the numbers. Do you know how little PC adventure games generally sell? It’s a very niche market (I know, it used to be my favourite genre until it pretty much died).

@7 In a way they are killing it…there is no variety in genres any more.All you see nowdays are 1st and 3rd person shooters…all the time

@10 Killzone 2 was just an eye candy nothing more…it didn’t deliver and people were disappointed
and it wasn’t supposed to be a system seller.anyone who wanted the best 1st person shooter would go with the 360.I don’t recall there were many people who would buy a ps3(initial price)just for KZ2
In Heavy Rain’s case is that it’s an adventure game that many people especially pc gamers who are much more familiar with the genre(than of those who own consoles)want to get their hands on…

And to make it worse Blerk so many of those FPS games end up looking and feeling the same. War Sims to Space Marines over done and stale.

On a personal note I feel the samething has already happend to racing. In todays game tech the enviroments are all looking the same, they often have the same cars and tracks. There isn’t much to diferentiate GT from Forza from even something like Shift to Race Pro. They all look the same, the biggest question is do you want your racer to be “Arcade” or “Sim”? This one hurts me, because I used to LOVE racers. Now, meh, I really don’t even play them.

As for FPS, yea too many of them. When games like LBP get clobered by this years flavor of FPS yea it becomes a problem.

FPS, and shooters in general are the 800lbs Gorila sitting in the middle of the game world right now.

As for why thre are so many? They sell. Period. Millions of teens everywhere are chasing each other as we speak in a game of CoD. Game devs aren’t going to change and stop making em. That is just the way it is. But if the game industray doesn’t deversify a bit more they could lose gamers. I think that may very well be why the Wii does so well. I know we play ours more now then we used to.

@13 well said
Respect

Totally agree with OlderGamer. As interesting as this game looks, i feel like there a a few high-caliber games on the PS3 that have undersold

I think this game is going to undersell, for sure. But I am interested in it and will be buying it. It will be a nice alternative to putting a movie on in the evening. I am all for games like Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain that focus on quality storytelling to pull me in.

Well said, OlderGamer.

Ofcourse it will undersell, it’s a niche genre…(almost goes without saying). Looks pretty outstanding thus far though.

I’m quite surprised i’m not too interested in this seen as i didn’t mind all the cutscenes which came with MGS4

Movie???some people really don’t have a clue about pure adventure games like Broken Sword,Phantasmagoria,Gabriel Knight,The Longest Journey e.t.c

As long as a single-player game is as cinematic as UNCHARTED 2, I don’t mind being it a shooter really.

What I detest is all these online MP shooters out there. Plain stupid.

And the ones playing these games constantly confuse “a good game” with “being good in a game”. Yes I’m looking at you, GH.

Shooters are not killing the games industry. You need games like that. As much you want to hate them the simple fact is they bring in the money that funds titles like this.

right, there are many stupid mp shooters out there – but also some very very good ones where it indeed kind of sucks if you are not good in them. i don´t think that the competitive mp shooters are generally stupid. in the end a videogmae doesn´t have to be all about the story to be good in a way. it sometimes is absolutely fine if the gameplay is pure fun . i don´t mind a videogame with a great story but i also don´t mind if a shooter has a crappy story but i can enjoy the hell out of it. that being said i have to agrree with oldergamer that there is not enough variety in shooters. i think they need more crazy, unrealistic elements. i hope bioshock2 will deliver a great mp experience (but i kind of doubt it). also i think brink could turn out to be pretty fresh.

The clown did it! I bet the frigging clown did it! This game looks to become a legend of our generation even if it’s doesn’t do huge numbers. From what I’ve seen it’s going to be an excellent interactive experience. I for one can’t wait to play this. I might try and ignore any more previews and reviews when the game comes out as I’d like to make my own judgment on this and not be influenced by other people and press as I was with MW2 and was left underwhelmed to say the least

Lbp has so far sold 3m copies worldwide so its done respectable sales. Heavy Rain is a game that isnt meant to sell millions of copies its more to prevent the industry from becoming full of shooters but all the fanboys will once again say Sony games dont sell if it only does 1m.

Sony dont spend as much on marketing as Microsoft on thier games and they still sell in the 2 to 3m mark so how is that bad ill never know.

I already have the game on pre-order, but I also find it hard to believe that it will fare very well at retail. One can hope though…

“Sony dont spend as much on marketing as Microsoft on thier games and they still sell in the 2 to 3m mark so how is that bad ill never know.”

You make it sound like marketing is somehow cheating. Also, Uncharted 2 would probably disagree with you as it’s been marketed to death (I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen the advert, and I watch f’all TV).

No no its a bad thing on Sonys part that they dont market thier games but they still sell very well considering.

This is just a modern day Shenmue.

Either you’re very dumb or you’ve never played Shenmue…

The general opinion on the internet is that Heavy Rain is a system seller lol i doubt it

I hope those people ‘re joking, Hindle.

btw, Mushroom what do you mean by that, srsly?

It’s not one of the biggest System sellers…but for a fair percentage of people it actually is(off course having other titles in mind)

Ok some semi random thoughts.

At this point in the hardware lifecicle no game can be considered a system seller. At this point the only real system seller is price point. If the Wii anounced tomorrow that the system was going on sale tomorrow for 50 or 100usd less price. It would fly off of the shelf. A 199usd PS3? Samething.

So called system sellers are games that are aimed at ussualy the hardcore demographic. Most of those people already have their said systems. Zoop isn’t going to buy a PS3 over HR, he already owns one.

People who cross buy systems, that is buy the “Other” system as a second or third system, will be far more motivated to do so based on price point. Once the price is where they will consider buying it, a game may come along and push them over the edge. That game, for some, may be something like GoW3 or yes, HR. I still do NOT consider it a “system seller” situation. Because, again said gamer already owns another system, will still buy games for another system, and still plays games on another system.

PR people and fanboys alike over use the term system seller. They do so as if to indicate that this game or that game marks a trend. A trend that from now on, because of said game, people will will be switching teams. And playing only on that system. Silly. All I am saying is that the market that would even consider something greater then price(ie the system seller game) is not going to drive sales on a system. Nope. And we see it all of the time. A game comes out, we get a very small sales spike and it returns to previous levels a week or two later. Systems price drops and the system sales pick up and maintan longer sales increase. To the over whelming majority of game buyers, it is price point over “System sellers”.

I agree with Mushie. HR is a western take on Shenmue. In that the game is as much a cinimatic interactive story game. And the same could be said of Shenmue. It was simply a more evloved updated, eatern take on older games. These games remind me more of an interactive Myst. If Myst had avatars, you would get something close to HR. Sorta, its a streatch, I know. But I think its valid. And like Shenmue, HR is trying to win people over with insanly pretty graphics and story.

Next up is, likes and dislikes. Alot of you are saying the samething in your own ways. Everyone likes what they like. And everyone can like something different. As for HR, some people will buy it straight away and claim it is the best game this gen. Others will take one look and walk away. Some people love MP shooters, some people not so much. Its all good, for the most part there are games out there for everyone.

Having said that, I think HR will sell far less then maybe it should. I do not think enough of the main stream buying public, you know the ones playing the Halos and CoDs of the world, will care about a game like HR. Time will tell.

Hindle

“Heavy Rain is a game that isnt meant to sell millions of copies its more to prevent the industry from becoming full of shooters but all the fanboys will once again say Sony games dont sell if it only does 1m.”

That is a very silly thing to say. Every game made and published is done so with the idea that it will sell. Someone has an idea and promotes its to the point of being developed and then gets published with the idea of selling as many copies as possible.

Also in this day and age, for a high profile game 1 million sales is disapointing. I think for the very fact that games cost so much time and money to create. There is a lot more investment in todays market then there was just 5 years ago or 10 years ago. No one wants to through millions of usd/lbs at something that “Might” work. It HAS to work. I have read that many games must sell over a million copies just to break even. I don’t know the numbers behind HR, but trust me, they would like to do more then just break even.

I do agree with both Hindle and Zoop(they seem to be a pair don’t they? )

I don’t think many people will see HR as the game they were waiting for to buy a PS3. But I don’t doubt that some will. And to some, this may very well be one of the greatest games they have ever played.

“I have read in many sites and forums that there are many people who will buy a Ps3 just for this game”

Although I doubt it’s a large percentage, I was amongst one of those people.

…then they went and delayed the release of the game by about a year. Go figure. *laughs*

Can’t wait for this.

There is something i like to call the Ico effect i. e didnt live up to expectations but changed the gaming industry as a whole, thats what i meant for HR OG. I mean i wouldnt class say Ico as a failure or SOTC but both games didnt sell millions of copies.

A game doesnt have to sell millions of copies to be classed as successful there is such a thing as cult classic after all. If people are going to compare HR to what Halo or a MW sells then that is stupid. Personally i think HR will gain a cult following

Damn OG that’s one big ass mothafuckin’ comment!

Indigo Prohpecy was cool, I have a feeling they’re gonna pull this one off.

Geki your a fucktard. The first thing our of your assinine mouth is nothing but trying to critisize and rip into me with name calling. Well since you act like a damn 5 year old, i’ll respond to you like one.IF YOU played shenmue you would know exactly how this is very much like HR, just done with modern day technology.

And JUST LIKE Shenmue, when it came out it was revolutionizing gaming because of the new “hybrid” gameplay and blaah blah blah.. i’ve heard all this rederick before.

Shenmue done with modern age technology is not exactly a bad thing.

Mind you, I don’t see the similarity myself.

I never said it was a bad thing…

Because there is no similarity. Either that or the heavy investigation/dialogue/choice options part of Shenmue escaped me… Or young master Mushroom has seen some kick-ass HR martial arts scenes no one else has…

Or y’know, hes talking out of his ass, because they both have QTE’s yo!

Absolutely there is. As OG (#33) even pointed out.. so I will not rehash what others have pointed out in agreement. Just because others see it where you do not doesn’t mean you need to be so aggressive and insulting.

Gek, not to over step my bounds but I think Shenmue and HR are alike. In the way maybe that an Action RPG and a Menu-Driven RPG are alike. Sure they have different game mechanics, but past that, they are both Role Playing Games. And they share more in common then they don’t.

I think that Shenmue and HR are like that. They go about it slightly differntly but they are VERY cinimatic ways to deliver the heart of the game, and that heart is the respective stories they are telling. And really I don’t think it would make sense to use the same mechanics in both games. Martial Arts make a lot of sense in Shenmue, but would look and feel very out of place in HR.

In my mind it make sense.

Heavy Rain is a role playing game now?

I don’t see any similarities personally, other than they both excessively use QTEs.