Comments on: Games let you commit “violations of international law,” says human rights groups

By: OrbitMonkey

OrbitMonkey — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:33:37 +0000

GTA4 isn’t included as Niko only breaks the internal law’s of Liberty City. If he was too join the army, invade Iraq and toture a militia man; then they’d have been all over him…

By: FeaturePreacher

FeaturePreacher — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:01:12 +0000

Hey, why wasn’t GTA 4 on the list? I’m pretty sure there are a good deal of violations there. I wonder if the guys at Rockstar feel slighted for not being included on this international who’s who list.

By: polygem

polygem — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:38:59 +0000

ok then…what about an international law court level. where you have to solve puzzles (questions from the judge) to avoid the electric chair…

By: Eregol

Eregol — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:29:29 +0000

Russia and America don’t like each other?
But, I’m in Britain!
I’m right in the middle.
Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Meh.
I’ll be fine.

By: scuz

scuz — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:23:10 +0000

for the love of the word “fuck” will the world get its head around the fact that pitting russia and america against each other is nothing new in the world of media, its about as interactive and thoughtful a scene as a dead duck.

By: Dannybuoy

Dannybuoy — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:52:58 +0000

Books/films/plays/music have all been doing the same for years. So leave games alone you cock noses

By: oem

oem — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:49:41 +0000

It’s a freaking game, a virtual reality… why don’t they concern their business about REAL war crimes taking place right now in the real world, idiots.

By: TastyAcidMilkk

TastyAcidMilkk — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:42:25 +0000

commin from people who protect child molesters and killers etc thier ones too talk

By: freedoms_stain

freedoms_stain — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:32:36 +0000

So what do these guys want? For the game to end when you’ve beaten a certain %age of the enemy forces and offer the remainder quarter as per the international rules of war?

By: Floms

Floms — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:24:40 +0000

Hahahahahaha but the best game where you can kill people has to be GTA series, driving in the sidewalk priceless

By: Hunam

Hunam — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:23:57 +0000

Is post kill teabagging seen as a violation?

By: Eregol

Eregol — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:23:42 +0000

I lodged a complaint over Hotel Rwanda.

No I didn’t. But I gather nothing would have happened if I did.

By: BraveArse

BraveArse — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:20:24 +0000

So does that mean I should have contacted the UN after “witnessing” the torture scene in Syriana?

By: Ansob

Ansob — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:19:51 +0000

They have a point, but they also don’t have a point.

They have a point because it should be important for your character to respect international law if the game is a realistic military simulation where you play a member of the conventional armed forces of a signatory of the Geneva convention.

They don’t have a point because most of the games they looked at feature you playing either as someone outside of the remit of the convention (i.e. you’re a mercenary, who has pretty much no rights according to the Geneva convention; or you play as a member of a global taskforce specifically set up to be outside international law so you can go torture terrorists; or you’re playing the bad guys).

I agree with Jim and John, though. It’s funny how it’s okay to criticise video games over this, but not movies (and supposedly because people are too stupid to know the different between real life and a video game, according to that article).

By: Freek

Freek — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:11:46 +0000

And MW2 does include rules if you are playing as a US or UK soldier, it’s game over as soon as you hit even 1 civilian.

By: Phoenixblight

Phoenixblight — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:07:20 +0000

Groups like these are the reason why I am so anti censorship. We have to think for ourselves not morons like these so they can become another government group to fine our media for making games that are against “international law”

By: Dralen

Dralen — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:05:45 +0000

Three words, It’s-not-real!

By: Eregol

Eregol — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:02:44 +0000

And the lack of common sense award goes to……

Seriously. What is this world coming to?
It’s gotten to the point that nobody is allowed to think for themselves.
If we have to have numpties like this make all our decisions for us we really are all going to hell in a handcart.

By: Freek

Freek — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:02:29 +0000

The whole point of the those games is that they putt you in morally questionable situations.

Games aren’t yet as sophisticated as books and movies in exploring those types of experiences but it is interesting that they are trying.

By: polygem

polygem — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:01:14 +0000

ha ha i really can´t believe whats going on these days! this is all about a fake, virtual experience. just like in a movie. there is no difference at all. all these people complaining are just really really narrow minded. i feel very sorry for them. what about the real violations like animal abuse and factory farming so many so called human rights activists are tolerating and even supporting with their consuming behaviour…leave videogames alone and leave it for something it is: fun and entertainment- nothing more and nothing less. there are real problems to solve in this world so don´t waste your time…

By: freedoms_stain

freedoms_stain — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:48:12 +0000

I would love someone to do a study that shows the number of people who have played violent games then commit crimes of whatever “level” vs people who have eaten toast and committed crimes at the same level.

I think the results would be very telling.

By: jnms

jnms — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:43:26 +0000

I dread to think what these people think of kids playing ‘cops and robbers’, or god forbid the politically incorrect ‘cowboys and indians’.

“Violation of International Law” – the fucking dicks.

By: Scyrenn

Scyrenn — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:42:27 +0000

No shit, Sherlock… –’

Games are “fun”, says I.

By: Sethos

Sethos — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:41:39 +0000

See, now we really needed that SDK for the PC version – Someone have to do a level, where you have to mow down all those human rights groups, whiners, moaners and the like with a weapon of your choice.

Oh well, I’m off to kill everyone at an airport, brb.