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Edge gives Bayonetta 10, Dragon Age 5

Friday, 20th November 2009 11:26 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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The latest Edge scores are up on NeoGAF (thanks, Anders), including a 10/10 for Platinum’s Bayonetta.

Dragon Age fared less well: it got 5/10 for the 360 version.

The lot:

  • Modern Warfare 2: 9
  • Assassin’s Creed II: 8
  • Left 4 Dead 2: 9
  • Bayonetta: 10
  • Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks: 8
  • Sin and Punishment: 8
  • Dragon Age:Origins: 5
  • Saw: 4
  • Lit: 7
  • Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles 7
  • Football Manager 2010: 8
  • Tropico 3: 7
  • Spaceball Revolution: 5

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60 Comments

  1. Eregol

    Doesn’t surprise me.
    It is frankly awesome. Shame it’s not out for another 2 months.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Johnny Cullen

    Here I thought it was gonna be the other way round. :S

    #2 5 years ago
  3. Blerk

    I appear to have woken up in a parallel universe again. :-D

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Robo_1

    Colour me very surprised!

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Phoenixblight

    I guess Bioware forgot to slip them the bribe money for shame Bioware. You always have to pay the reviewers…

    Did anyone read the review for DAO from Edge? I can’t seem to find it. I am curious why they gave it such a low score. If its because of the difficulty then they are idiots.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Eregol

    PS3 version probably only gets an 8 though.
    Damn Sega’s shoddy port.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Gingerdave

    I know Edge always mark harshly but damn that’s tough mark.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Blerk

    They’ve reviewed the 360 version of Dragon Age rather than the PC version, so the score probably reflects that.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. iampaddy

    Modern Warfare 2 is not worth a 9 in a million years.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Monk

    10 form Edge, it surprise me so much !
    from friend I Know him, he say that Bayonetta have
    more Finishing Combos than what Dante in Devil may cry Have, and more Beautiful.

    Can`t Wait.

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Michael O’Connor

    “I guess Bioware forgot to slip them the bribe money for shame Bioware. You always have to pay the reviewers…”

    You’ve never read an issue of EDGE, have you?

    The Bayonetta score I can *almost* understand. The game really is the first true evolution for that type of game since Dante came on the scene. I would have given it a 9 myself though, personally.

    But 5 out of 10 for DAO?! Christ…

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Cort

    Edge takes longer to review than just about anyone else. I know they’ve said that they like to play a game more so they can review better, but I can’t help thinking that the fact that many of their scores subsequently posted are out of step with the general consensus is more than just a coincidence.

    But I’m sure their commercial partners and advertising department are happy whatever the reasons for their severely delayed (but rarely long, detailed or comprehensive) review articles and frequently controversial scores.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. Eregol

    Considering it also got 40/40 in Famitsu then a 10/10 isn’t all that bizarre.
    I played the PS3 demo, didn’t really see anything wrong with it and had a riot of a time.

    I’d like to see Edge to an extended section for DAO with a reference to the PC version as it has been said by a lot of people that the console versions are incredibly inferior.

    Edge’s review scores are ones that I actually take note of as I respect their views and tend to agree with them a lot of the time. That’s why Future publishing get money from me for a sub.

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Phoenixblight

    “You’ve never read an issue of EDGE, have you?”

    No I have not isn’t it a EU magazine or reviewer? I have only heard they review rather harsh. I understand that DAO has a few bugs but compared to the PC version its not that many and not even the PC version looks that much better then the 360. I understand PC is gonna look better but its very trivial ( I know I played it on a friends Super rig) 5/10 is way harsh I don’t think they played the game entirely. There was a point in the game I was beginning to be disappointed with where it was going but once I got to the Landsmeet it turned the game around entirely.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. XDamage

    Dragon Age 5/10?!?! What the hell have they been drinking over at Edge headquarters?? I know the console version of the game is supposed to be easier and dumbed down compared to the PC version, but I can’t believe it’s that bad.

    The PC version is the best RPG I’ve played since Fallout 3, hell, maybe even since Baldur’s Gate II!

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Eregol

    @Phoenix
    Well, Eurogamer gave it 6/10. So maybe 5/10 from Edge considering how harsh they can be is justified?

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Michael O’Connor

    “No I have not isn’t it a EU magazine or reviewer?”

    The point I was making was that EDGE simply isn’t the sort of magazine where bribing to get scores just doesn’t happen. Trust me on this one.

    #17 5 years ago
  18. ARFarokhi

    Edge has already gave a game 10/10. Guess what game!

    PS3′s Exclusive “Little Big Planet”

    Cheers for PS3 Lovers (including myself!)!

    #18 5 years ago
  19. Cort

    @O’Connor, ignoring the double negative….

    While I have no reason to disagree, reading the magazine proves nothing. Writers who are bribed tend not to admit to it in their articles. But anyway, there is a saying in politics which applies across all fields of human endeavor:

    “Always be suspicious of the man who runs on an anti-sleaze ticket”.

    #19 5 years ago
  20. Phoenixblight

    @ O’Connor it was a joke. Not a very good one obviously.

    #20 5 years ago
  21. Bulk Slash

    A 10? I’ve not agreed with any of Edge’s 10s for quite a while, but the demo for Bayonetta was *very* promising if a bit too focused on button mashing. Still, I look forward to playing the full thing.

    #21 5 years ago
  22. Jadeskye

    a 5/10 for dragonage? i think they gave the review to a guy that doesn’t care for the genre personally.

    #22 5 years ago
  23. Eregol

    @Bulk
    Everything’s a button masher when the difficulty is down low enough.
    Stick it on a nice hard setting and see how far button mashing gets you.

    EDIT:
    @Jade
    I seriously doubt that. See my above comment about Eurogamer giving it 6/10.

    #23 5 years ago
  24. DaMan

    yay, thumbs up for Bayonetta. EG also gave it a 9/10.

    #24 5 years ago
  25. DrDamn

    The EG DA review was seriously flawed though. The reviewer was someone who had already spent 70 odd hours on the PC version getting used to and comfortable with that interface and style. What did they expect him to think of the 360 version?

    The EG reviewer also whinged about several things which just weren’t true (seems to be a theme in recent EG reviews) – then had to add a retraction after being corrected but didn’t seem to think this affected his score (they were fairly major points I think it was more about trying to save what little face he had left).

    The console versions should have been judged on their own merits, the approach is not worse or better – just different. Actually makes for a smoother flow to the game if that is what you want.

    #25 5 years ago
  26. OlderGamer

    I didn’t really like DAO either to be fairly honest. Too much focus on managing your party. To me, the party dynamic should be left to other kinds of RPGs, namely menu driven jrpgs or strategy based tactic style RPGs. In my mind the only way to pull off a multiparty western rpg is on an online MMORPG. Just my two cents. Milage may vary. But when I played DAO(xb360) there was way too many menus, it moved too slow, and frankly I lost interest and was glad I didn’t buy the game.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. Eregol

    The Bayonetta 10 has already been added to Edge’s Wikipedia page on their list on 10′s.

    #27 5 years ago
  28. Phoenixblight

    I prefer the console version reminds me of a souped up KOTOR set in a fantasy world. Also I didn’t pay attention but they gave Saw a four and gave DAO a 5. Yeah this review is flawed big time.

    #28 5 years ago
  29. Michael O’Connor

    “if a bit too focused on button mashing.!

    Calling Bayonetta a “bit of a button masher” is like calling the theory of relativity a “basic maths equation”.

    #29 5 years ago
  30. The Hindle

    Hmm im willing to bet God of war 3 gets a 7 of Edge even though its very much like Bayonetta

    #30 5 years ago
  31. Eregol

    @Hindle
    Having played both Bayonetta and GoW3, I can honestly say that the 2 play nothing like each other.

    #31 5 years ago
  32. DaMan

    GoW gameplay is nothing like Bayonetta/DMC, it’s comparable to NG.

    #32 5 years ago
  33. The Hindle

    Really Bayonetta does look more focused on the combat and God of war is more about exploration. Also the director of this has said he does look at Gow as a competitor

    #33 5 years ago
  34. DaMan

    uh, Bayonetta/DMC is basically about combos and the such, NG/GoW gameplay is more precise, allows more strategy.

    “the director of this has said he does look at Gow as a competitor”

    link please? because I remember some website calling Bayonetta a GoW killer, but I don’t remember Platinum saying that.

    #34 5 years ago
  35. Eregol

    God of War about exploration?
    What the hell kind of planet are you on?
    God of War is about fighting, the brutality of it all. Hence you can disembowell centaurs in number 3.
    GoW is about killing things in a nasty way while Bayonetta is more about finesse.
    Either way, both games are an astounding spectacle and I can’t wait for either of them.

    #35 5 years ago
  36. Mike

    Dragon Age PC is a 10.

    Although I’m not a huge fan of DMC, I might well have to give Bayonetta a butcher’s.

    #36 5 years ago
  37. The Hindle

    Really finesse so you would call eating an enemy with a fucking dragon finesse eregol lol because thats really brutal is that.

    Daman

    It was in an interview where he said he doesnt play the Ninja gaiden games but looks at the Gow games something like that.

    #37 5 years ago
  38. Eregol

    @Hindle
    Yeah, and there’s a lot of exploration in God of War……
    Seriously. Go and play Bayonetta. Doesn’t matter what console you have a quick google search will give you instructions how to set up a jap account so you can try it.

    Then play a God of War game and tell me how similar they are.
    Two COMPLETELY different games. So, until you’ve played them both are you really qualified to comment?

    #38 5 years ago
  39. The Hindle

    I go off exploration as the games have puzzle solving elements that require a degree of exploration at times,

    for the record im not hating on Bayonetta as im getting it but my point is Edge give this a 10 but give all the Gow games a 7 when Gow is really good

    #39 5 years ago
  40. DaMan

    Edge gave the first GoW an 8, they gave a 7 the second one.

    #40 5 years ago
  41. Eregol

    God of War got an 8/10 from Edge
    http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/godofwar

    Granted the sequel got a 7.
    It all depends on how well the gameplay evolves.
    God of War 3′s demo was good, but not as good as the Bayonetta demo.
    GoW3 has a lot longer to go though.

    #41 5 years ago
  42. The Hindle

    Exactly Chains of olympus got a 7 as well. The gameplay in Gow is amazing yet they give it a 7 its like wtf. Edge and thier bias as always

    #42 5 years ago
  43. DaMan

    their scores were fair tbh. they also gave DMC3 a 8.

    I don’t see any bias in that, Uncharted2 got a 9 :D.

    #43 5 years ago
  44. Eregol

    Naw
    Not at all.
    Yes, Chains of Olympus was fun, but it didn’t really push the boat out.
    With regards to Edge’s scoring system you need to read it thusly
    6 = Give it a go. Don’t expect too much
    7 = Well worth playing. Will give you a lot of fun
    8 = Buy it. You wont regret it
    9 = Absolutely fantastic. Do not miss this
    10 = Revolutionary in every way. Make sure it joins your collection.

    PS: You want to see bias, you should look at Gamestm.
    They rated LBP a 9 if I remember rightly. And when it comes to multi-format releases they pretty much always review the 360 version.
    In fact, I went a couple of months without seeing a single PS3 multi-format title reviewed.
    In one of those issues there wasn’t a single PS3 game at all.
    And they tend to rate PS3 games down too.

    #44 5 years ago
  45. The Hindle

    And Bayonetta is a revolution is it. Its basically the spirtuel sequel to Dmc 1. Would you call a Halo 3 a revolution lol i mean seriously that list is flawed mate.

    Chains pushed the Psp to its technical peak thats why it deserved a much higher score. Ill agree with you on that the Ps3 does get some shit for some reason. What did Edge give Crackdown btw?

    #45 5 years ago
  46. Eregol

    Technical achievements will always be recognised. But it’s how it plays that counts.
    It’s not always the best looking games that get a 10 you know?
    Have a read of Eurogamer’s import review for Bayonetta
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bayonetta-import-review
    Very positive reading.

    Bayonetta is nothing like DMC either. Just because it’s the same genre of game and by primarily the same people doesn’t mean it’s the same.

    Go and try it. Seriously. It’ll change your mind. It’s nothing against Sony the Bayonetta score. Don’t forget it’s coming out on PS3 too (albeit as a poor port from Sega, which still got 38/40 from Famitsu).
    Famitsu scored Bayonetta 40/40, Edge called the game flawless.
    And Eurogamer said
    “The result is a game that exemplifies so much of what commentators claim has died in the Japanese game industry. A blast of creative brilliance, both technically accomplished, strategically deep and infused with rare imagination, Bayonetta represents the pinnacle of its chosen niche.”

    #46 5 years ago
  47. DaMan

    Bayonetta is nothing like DMC? based on the demo gameplay it is very very similar. I’d say it’s like DMC with a more ‘wicked’ gameplay scheme.

    #47 5 years ago
  48. The Hindle

    And Gow chains of olympus played like a dream, yea Bayonetta looks brilliant dude id say its pretty similar to Dmc, as it has a larger then life protagonist, in your face combos, effortlessy cool charisma etc all things shared by the first Dmc but that was lost with the second.

    Off topic dont you think its weird by how many 360 exclusives get scored 9 or above with Edge, i mean i never believed people when they said they are bias but il admit i think they are now

    #48 5 years ago
  49. Eregol

    DMC didn’t have the extensive combo tree that Bayonetta has.
    Dante also didn’t have pistols attached to his feet and hair that can tear enemies in half.
    Or the ability to summon a guillotine, or chainsaws.

    It was however a revolution for it’s time, but it is a star that has dulled over the years.

    Bayonetta is frankly awesome and can’t really be compared to anything on the market at the moment IMO.

    #49 5 years ago
  50. DaMan

    well, I meant gameplay wise. it is rather close.

    #50 5 years ago
  51. Eregol

    Anyway
    It’s definately a different (and better) beast to God of War, and I’ve played every DMC apart from 2. Just from Bayonetta’s demo I feel it is infinitely the better game.

    DMC had it’s issues. It was quite short, and the last boss was a let down. If Edge say Bayonetta is faultless, I am inclined to believe them from what I’ve played at the moment.

    #51 5 years ago
  52. The Hindle

    Depends on opinion Eregol does that really i prefer the more serious story of Gow to the campyness of Bayonetta but they really are very different come to think of it.

    #52 5 years ago
  53. Eregol

    I have to say though, that when playing God of War 3 there are some low res textures in the demo.

    Poor textures can be seen on
    Blades of Chaos (although the sound of them makes my spine tingle in a good way)
    Some character models (The red titan and the Chimaera)
    The centaur’s insides

    PS3 Bayonetta has it’s issues. But I like both, Bayonetta edges it for me.
    I’ve always been a sucker for Japanese craziness. This is no exception.

    #53 5 years ago
  54. The Hindle

    That because its 6 month old code lol, you know unfinished

    #54 5 years ago
  55. Eregol

    Yeah I know that.
    But considering the quality of other textures involved and wanting to showcase it as a powerhouse title leaving in placeholder textures (especially on a gargantuan character model that is almost permanently on screen)is quite frankly ludicrous.

    #55 5 years ago
  56. Uncontested

    A five? really? Talk about breaking the mold just to be different.

    Reviewer was probably some console fps douche.

    #56 5 years ago
  57. bluemanrule

    Perhaps the reviewer has some profound reason to give Dragon Age a 5/10. Drug use, the only apparent reason why DA:O would receive such a score, is not an applicable reason though.

    #57 5 years ago
  58. Gekidami

    Why not read the review and find out?

    #58 5 years ago
  59. zoopdeloop

    As i have played the full game of Bayonetta i can tell you that it’s the most fun action game i’ve ever played.
    If you go past the kitsch art style and the somehow silly parts(which are few) of the game it’s pure fun in all it’s glory.It may not have the same depth or graphics with GoW but gameplaywise is more fun.
    As for the Ps3 version…i think some people are going a little bit overboard.The textures are good,so does the framerate…graphics don’t feel washed out at all.There are minor differences to 360 version.
    The huge letdown REALLY are the loading times(ps3 version) which i heard they will be fixed with a patch.

    #59 5 years ago
  60. zoopdeloop

    oh and one more thing about Bayonetta’s gameplay.It has the best variety of Weapons/combos/skills/unlockables i have ever played in these kind of games(Gow-DMC style)1 or even 2 playthroughs with this game really are not enough to acquire and learn all of them

    #60 5 years ago

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