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	<title>Comments on: Brazil finally getting PS2, costs lotes do dinheiro</title>
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		<title>By: FrankMStone</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankMStone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think articles like this help point out the main reason behind videogame piracy in certain areas of the world. I live in Brazil and am a Wii owner and am getting a PS3 that my aunt is bringing from the US, but lets talk prices.

Ok, so the PS2 costs $99 in the US, and Sony (for whatever reason has officially decided to launch for this absurd price tag of $445) however the ps2 has been sold in Brazil long before Sony&#039;s release because of legal importation. the current price range in Brazil for a ps2 is R$ 400-500 $220-280.

The (PS3 slim 120gb) and the (XBOX 360 60gb +2 games) are sold for respective prices of R$1700 ($950) and R$1800 ($1000)
(you can find it a bit lower in a couple of places, but that is the price of a lot of stores)

The games are all priced around R$229 - $127 and when they are priced down, like for example assassin&#039;s creed, here you still have to pay $80 for it.

Who&#039;s fault is this? The companies, the retailers and the government.

The truth is, when it comes down to it, if you pay this much for a console, you feel, as a consumer, that you have a right to play games on it without having to pay more for the software themselves. 

If you think that the average attach rate for a console is about 5-9 games per player, and you see that for a PlayStation 3 the consumer pays $950 for just the console alone, that&#039;s over $600 the US price, which would allow the player to buy at least 10 games on day of release (above the average that gamers normally buy) then you start to understand the situation at hand.

Here in Brazil for example, the launch of the PS3 Slim that was accompanied by a decrease of a $100 in price in the US, actually saw a price INCREASE of $280 in 2 of the major online sellers AND this remains with older models still being cheaper than the slim.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think articles like this help point out the main reason behind videogame piracy in certain areas of the world. I live in Brazil and am a Wii owner and am getting a PS3 that my aunt is bringing from the US, but lets talk prices.</p>
<p>Ok, so the PS2 costs $99 in the US, and Sony (for whatever reason has officially decided to launch for this absurd price tag of $445) however the ps2 has been sold in Brazil long before Sony&#8217;s release because of legal importation. the current price range in Brazil for a ps2 is R$ 400-500 $220-280.</p>
<p>The (PS3 slim 120gb) and the (XBOX 360 60gb +2 games) are sold for respective prices of R$1700 ($950) and R$1800 ($1000)<br />
(you can find it a bit lower in a couple of places, but that is the price of a lot of stores)</p>
<p>The games are all priced around R$229 &#8211; $127 and when they are priced down, like for example assassin&#8217;s creed, here you still have to pay $80 for it.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s fault is this? The companies, the retailers and the government.</p>
<p>The truth is, when it comes down to it, if you pay this much for a console, you feel, as a consumer, that you have a right to play games on it without having to pay more for the software themselves. </p>
<p>If you think that the average attach rate for a console is about 5-9 games per player, and you see that for a PlayStation 3 the consumer pays $950 for just the console alone, that&#8217;s over $600 the US price, which would allow the player to buy at least 10 games on day of release (above the average that gamers normally buy) then you start to understand the situation at hand.</p>
<p>Here in Brazil for example, the launch of the PS3 Slim that was accompanied by a decrease of a $100 in price in the US, actually saw a price INCREASE of $280 in 2 of the major online sellers AND this remains with older models still being cheaper than the slim.</p>
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		<title>By: pinnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Brazil, government is thieh, politicans are thieves.people have to pay the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Brazil, government is thieh, politicans are thieves.people have to pay the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: linke</title>
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		<dc:creator>linke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am against piracy, against the high prices of the Brazilian government practice, buy my games out of the country by mail.
PS3 will be arriving the same standard prices
I often think I was born</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am against piracy, against the high prices of the Brazilian government practice, buy my games out of the country by mail.<br />
PS3 will be arriving the same standard prices<br />
I often think I was born</p>
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		<title>By: linke</title>
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		<dc:creator>linke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stephany Nunneley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephany Nunneley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fdelfino - Thanks for the heads up. That&#039;s the LAST time I ask my Portuguese pal for anything related to language. Time before that I asked him something, and the REAL translation turned out to be &quot;lick my c*ck&quot;. He thought it was hilarious. My boss and I did not. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fdelfino &#8211; Thanks for the heads up. That&#8217;s the LAST time I ask my Portuguese pal for anything related to language. Time before that I asked him something, and the REAL translation turned out to be &#8220;lick my c*ck&#8221;. He thought it was hilarious. My boss and I did not. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past Brazil have quite happily just made their own &#039;clone&#039; versions of the popular computers and consoles of the day (or, more likely, the yesterday). Interesting to see them going straight finally. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past Brazil have quite happily just made their own &#8216;clone&#8217; versions of the popular computers and consoles of the day (or, more likely, the yesterday). Interesting to see them going straight finally. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jadeskye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadeskye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are they like, almost black market type stuff? If it isn&#039;t imported legally logic would dictate so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are they like, almost black market type stuff? If it isn&#8217;t imported legally logic would dictate so.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Deleted</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Deleted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find we do...</description>
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		<title>By: fdelfino</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdelfino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, we have PS3&#039;s and x360&#039;s to sell here, but you don&#039;t wanna know the price...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, we have PS3&#8242;s and x360&#8242;s to sell here, but you don&#8217;t wanna know the price&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fdelfino</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdelfino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the headline should be &quot;montes de dinheiro&quot; which means lots of money. &quot;Lote&quot; in portuguese is better translated as &quot;portion&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the headline should be &#8220;montes de dinheiro&#8221; which means lots of money. &#8220;Lote&#8221; in portuguese is better translated as &#8220;portion&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadeskye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadeskye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy shit.

I don&#039;t even know what to say O_o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know what to say O_o</p>
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		<title>By: reask</title>
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		<dc:creator>reask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theevilaires said:

Any word on XBOX1 or Gamecube being sold there too…ooops :P

Nah they didnt want to confuse them so just left it simple with a simple console.  ;)
Maybe when they get used to gaming they can step it up a  gear with a real gaming machine.</description>
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<p>Any word on XBOX1 or Gamecube being sold there too…ooops <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nah they didnt want to confuse them so just left it simple with a simple console.  <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Maybe when they get used to gaming they can step it up a  gear with a real gaming machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Khanivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khanivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still utterly baffled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still utterly baffled.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephany Nunneley</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2009/11/19/brazil-finally-getting-ps2-costs-lotes-do-dinheiro/comment-page-1/#comment-127284</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephany Nunneley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://international-business-regulations.suite101.com/article.cfm/brazilian_import_regulations</description>
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		<title>By: Khanivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khanivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does 60% of $100 equal $345?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does 60% of $100 equal $345?</p>
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		<title>By: theevilaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>theevilaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any word on XBOX1 or Gamecube being sold there too...ooops :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word on XBOX1 or Gamecube being sold there too&#8230;ooops <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeebo will destroy it!</description>
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		<title>By: Dr.Ghettoblaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Ghettoblaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m speechless.</description>
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		<title>By: cookiejar</title>
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		<dc:creator>cookiejar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit.
I didn&#039;t know it WASN&#039;T in Brazil.</description>
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I didn&#8217;t know it WASN&#8217;T in Brazil.</p>
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