Tue, Oct 20, 2009 | 12:56 BST

PC Gamer editor – Why I signed the Modern Warfare 2 dedicated server petition

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PC Gamer editor Tim Edwards has explained why he’s signed an ever-growing petition aimed at getting Infinity Ward to provide dedicated servers for Modern Warfare 2 PC multiplayer.

In his own words:

  • Dedicated server hosts are judged by their reliability.
  • Dedicated servers are fair.
  • Dedicated servers are adaptable.
  • Dedicated servers create community.

There’s a detailed explanation of all of those points through the link.

Inifinity Ward said over the weekend that Modern Warfare 2 wouldn’t feature dedicated servers for online play.

The linked petition now has more than 92,000 sigs.

33 comments

#1

Psychotext
20/10/09, 1:00 pm

I invoke the power of BDH!

#2

pracer
20/10/09, 1:02 pm

Does the longevity of dedicated servers make sense when you will be doing a new CoD game yearly? Does doing a yearly CoD fragment the would be comunity, clouding the issue/need for said servers? Do dedicated servers spawn mods that are unwanted by the devs. Why, unwanted? Do the mods take away from potential sales of said yearly CoD titles? Who benifits more from dedicated servers, the game company or the gamer?

All good as of yet unanswered questions. I think there might be a bigger picture here, is all.

#3

Patrick Garratt
20/10/09, 1:14 pm

That petition’s clicking along at a decent rate, to be fair.

#4

The_Deleted
20/10/09, 1:33 pm

@pracer:
This is a bone of contention with yearly updates, particularly for a game like CoD. On the one hand, you have a dedicated userbase who enjoy everything the game has to offer, enjoy playing with a regular clan and discovering all the game has to offer.
On the other, regular updates mean that longevity and the sense of a ‘club’ is gone. The game is going to last 2 years, ignoring Treyarch’s output, tops. That maybe long enough for most, but how often can the quality of a game like Modern Warfare, (now it’s a game in it’s own right, I’m betting Kotick will pull a Guitar Hero), be maintained?
I realise it’s Activi$ion, so quality of gameplay rarely comes into it..

#5

JonFE
20/10/09, 1:33 pm

Do you think it’s fair to sign this petition even if you’re not going to purchase this for the PC?

#6

Detale
20/10/09, 1:35 pm

Does the 100,000th signature win a prize?

#7

endgame
20/10/09, 1:36 pm

n1 Mr. Edwards. ty for the support! :D

JonFE? Yes, it’s not about just you, it’s not just about 1 game! It’s about much much more.

#8

pracer
20/10/09, 1:44 pm

@The_Deleted

I am with you 100%. I see the same type of thing with my NCAA Football game. I hate it, I mean hate it when I spring for the new year version. But I do, they have most often put just enough into the game to make me want the update. And that is a sports game where they can’t even use player names(collage sport = not allowed, in case your eng and haven’t played it) to update it. But the new features keep it going. I really don’t like that. And to make it worse so many of these games have DLC upping the games price. If I bought all of the day one dlc for NCAA, I would be spending 60usd for the game disc, and another 50 for the DLC. 110usd for one game! Crazy. And then next year, the samething all over again. I didn’t buy the dlc btw, well not all of it.
CoD is gonna be the same thing. It would be better if at least MW and MW2 could play online together or at least the dlc map packs bought for one game could be used in the other. But Nope. CoD MW2 is gonna run 70usd, and then have a good three or four 10usd downloads.

Kind of getting out of hand really.

#9

Filofax
20/10/09, 1:46 pm

It really looks like Activision are taking pc gamers down console road, looks like everything is going to be screened by Activision/Infinity Ward.

I bet bobby is rubbing his hands in anticipation of all the dlc/maps ect, he will be trying to flog to pc gamers

#10

Gekidami
20/10/09, 1:48 pm

Just out of sheer curiosity; How is the StarCraft 2 LAN petition going?

#11

Patrick Garratt
20/10/09, 2:00 pm

#12

Grimrita
20/10/09, 2:01 pm

If people are daft enough to purchase what is essentially the same game just tweaked alittle, then its their own fault.

having matchmaking systems is nothing but pure lazyness on the developers part. PC gamers are NOT console gamers and allowing players to create their own servers keeps the brand alive – look at the Battlefield series – Its still going strong, despite some fierce competition from CoD amongst others.

Its about time developers and publishers stopped treating PC gamers as second rate – there is more profit when a PC game is purchase, the PC install base is greater than the console base and PC gamers DO spend their money on stuff that isnt a shoddy port from console.

#13

Psychotext
20/10/09, 2:04 pm

Most companies couldn’t give a shit about online petitions… Activision doubly so.

They’ll sell MW2 at any price, and sell millions upon millions, no matter how many people complain about it.

#14

loki
20/10/09, 2:05 pm

torrent users have no right
PC gaymers fuck you, your petition and ugly PC ports

#15

Hunam
20/10/09, 2:17 pm

But loki… it’ll look better on the PC.

#16

Alexander Norris
20/10/09, 2:23 pm

People who agree to sacrifice their freedom in exchange for not having to install games or think about hardware issues have even less rights, loki.

#17

Grimrita
20/10/09, 2:33 pm

loki hasnt a clue what they are talking about

#18

Dralen
20/10/09, 2:35 pm

I’m starting to get a bad feeling about MW2, i thinks activision have been hiding certain things about this game from the public.

#19

killercow
20/10/09, 3:03 pm

signed!

#20

David Sarkisjan
20/10/09, 3:26 pm

18: Aliens in MW2 confirmed! Indiana Jones as the guest star.

#21

Detale
20/10/09, 3:46 pm

@20 – But are there gophers? Highly trained comabat gophers?

#22

Rider on the Storm
20/10/09, 3:55 pm

loki’s mum has a set of balls.

#23

Michael O'Connor
20/10/09, 4:28 pm

“Dedicated servers make it a lot easier for us to pirate the video game in question.”

#24

G1GAHURTZ
20/10/09, 4:29 pm

Here we go…

#25

Hunam
20/10/09, 4:35 pm

I thought he said he was smart?

#26

Michael O'Connor
20/10/09, 4:41 pm

When people can use their own dedicated servers, they don’t have to go through the middle-man (Infinity Ward) to play the game with friends online.

This means they won’t need to register the game to play it online.

It’s the exact same reason why Blizzard chose not to give Starcraft 2 LAN support. It ensures that you have validate your copy of the game to enjoy it, which the company has every right to do.

It’s an anti-piracy move and nothing more.

#27

Yoshi
20/10/09, 4:52 pm

Really shows everyone how many PC Gamers are actually out ther who give a damn.

#28

Hunam
20/10/09, 4:59 pm

Michael, you have to register your game to play online on World at War. They still have a master server you have to log in to in order to gain access to the server list/announce server.

#29

Michael O'Connor
20/10/09, 5:08 pm

“Really shows everyone how many PC Gamers are actually out ther who give a damn.”

Not really. Just as an example, CoD4 sold over 7 million copies. These people are a stone in the pond.

“Michael, you have to register your game to play online on World at War. They still have a master server you have to log in to in order to gain access to the server list/announce server.”

Doesn’t stop most people from getting around it, ironically. Some budding programmer will have this recoded within a week.

#30

Hunam
20/10/09, 5:23 pm

Kinda following on from the other thread with this. The point is that we don’t want to break the law to get what we really should have out the box. I want to buy this game and play online on the 32+ player servers, because I’m a big Battlefield fan and thus enjoy the larger, more hectic games. You can’t do that with peer to peer, which is by Battlefield on the consoles uses dedicated servers, IW is just cutting this out of the game so now there is no reason for me to buy this product. I don’t really care for the short single player campaign that was in CoD4 so I’d imagine I would be overjoyed by the one in MW2.

As Penny Arcade pointed out, Piracy is a fight between people who want to make money and people who want to steal games. The legitimate customers just get shafted in the crossfire.

#31

Morrius
20/10/09, 6:06 pm

Loki, I’d love to see your superior console version of Crysis when you have a moment.

#32

cachucha
20/10/09, 7:09 pm

It’s not ONLY an antipiracy move; they are going to save a crapload of cash and earn a lot aswell with this, if you ever use your brain to think above the picture, not just negative ramblings that make you look like an arse but since you life is pretty sad you could care less.

kind of pointless to get down to the level of a troll.

#33

endgame
21/10/09, 12:25 pm

well, cachucha seems to see through this little scam. nice. :)

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