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Turn 10: It would be very difficult for another dev to replicate Forza 3 physics

Saturday, 10th October 2009 17:30 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

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Turn 10′s Dan Greenawalt says it would be “very difficult” for another development team to “replicate” what the firm has done with Forza Motorsport 3.

“I’ve got huge respect for Yamauchi and what the Polyphony Digital team does, they’re a great developer. But do I personally feel confident that it would be difficult for any other racing game to do this,” he told CVG. “We run our physics at 360Hz. I don’t know of any other game that does that. That takes a commitment to physics, not just about making sure you have beautiful graphics.

“Forza 2 had great physics and okay graphics. Now Forza 3 has great physics and great graphics, because we learned more about the box. But we still prioritize physics first, not graphics first. That is one of the differences.

“Gran Turismo is a great game and when it comes out I’ll play it. But I think that without the partnerships and without the commitment, it will be very difficult for another team to replicate what we’ve done.”

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  1. Psychotext

    Removing the PR spin… each of these games have different strengths and weaknesses, from GRID to SHIFT to Forza to GT. We all know this, but it’s not going to stop the level of rabid anger that these sort of statements generally result in. :D

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Yoshi

    Few years later…

    “Forza 3 had great physics and great graphics but Forza 4 has fantastic physics and fantastic graphics.” XD

    #2 5 years ago
  3. Syrok

    “We run our physics at 360Hz. I don’t know of any other game that does that. ”

    And I don’t know any person that knows what that means. :)

    Also, the last bit of the quote reminds me of what Kanye West said.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. hitnrun

    I think PT nailed it. He’s saying (though his contrast diagramming is contradictory marketing nonsense) that Forza is as good as/better than GT because it goes way beyond in terms of physics, though it’s merely current-gen in graphics.

    That’s a perfectly acceptable opinion…if it’s true, which we’ll find out.

    #4 5 years ago
  5. RoarrrUK

    Another day another turn 10 slighlty bullish pr statement. There’s still 2 weeks left too. What more can we expect?

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Razor

    And Kaz and PD will just sit there and take it, which is admirable…I guess they’re going to let GT5 do the talking.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. 2mrw

    A new God confirmed.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Dean

    And Greenawalt knows at what rate the GT5 physics engine runs at *how*, exactly?

    Ahh.. that’s right. He doesn’t. So comparing a 360Hz update rate with an unknown rate is just fucking ridiculous.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. ecu

    Developer nonsense like this should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Cort

    PD have no commitment? Riiiight.

    Forza 3 looks like it’s going to be a great game, almost certainly the best racing sim so far this gen. So let it speak for itself and stop coming up with more full-of-shit and made-up-bullshit comments every day.

    “Forza 2 had great physics and okay graphics. Now Forza 3 has great physics and great graphics, because we learned more about the box. But we still prioritize physics first, not graphics first. That is one of the differences.

    So you didn’t prioritise graphics on this one? Sure ’bout that?

    #10 5 years ago
  11. robmlufc

    It doesnt matter how fast the physics engine runs, if the physics engine is as unrealistic as the videos imply it will just run fast but unrealistic. Video of the porsche(I think it was) bouncing upside down along the track shows this off wonderfully.

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Psychotext

    I think it might be a little more important how the game handles physics when the cars are on their wheels. :)

    #12 5 years ago
  13. Enkeixpress

    He speaks the truth. :)

    #13 5 years ago
  14. NiceFellow

    Oh, bullshit. Forza 3 looks very nice, but I don’t see reason another developer wouldn’t be able to match anything coded within it.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Johnny Cullen

    “Imma gonna let you finish Kaz, but Forza 3 was the best game of all time.

    “Of all time.”

    :D

    #15 5 years ago
  16. mykem

    SHIFT actually runs their physics engine at 400hz and just like Forza 3, it also features tire deformation.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Cort

    Not exactly perfect though, is it, Turn 10.

    http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-in-game-glitches-exposed_214.html

    #17 5 years ago
  18. Jadeskye

    @ johnny:

    Yes. Yes. Yes. XD

    #18 5 years ago