Naughty Dog reiterates Uncharted 2 may not be the last of Drake

Another day, and another story about Uncharted2. This is getting as bad as Halo.

I want to see an Uncharted take on a movie like Die Hard with a vengeance. Enough of the jungle climbing stuff. Lets see drake scale skyscrapers and have near on hit collisions with pedestrians while evading gun fire from Germans and the NYPD

Such is the nature of highly anticipated games. :p

edit: @pracer

Still wonder if they are going to risk a Jak and Daxter game knowing that the fanbase for Jak may have moved on. Id still buy it though

Jak and Dax should make a come back on PS4 if Sony were smart as a launch title

@Syrok
Only in Euroworld. You guys, ‘specialy Britts, freaken love the PS3. I own one, but in the end I just don’t get it. And yea, I played the demo of UC2. Its slow, clunky, poorly animated, and the matches are a whole 5 on 5. I just can’t see it. 5 on 5? I want 32 players, 64 players(looking forward to spending time with Mag and 255 of my closest friends.). But 5 on 5? I think the real value on UC2 is the single player mode. I didn’t like UCone, but can see the appeal. UC2 is gonna be more of the same, no prob. But when you guys go all goo-goo eyes for its multiplayer, thats where I have to call you out. Its crap. It truely is. I say single player gets a 9/10(not my cup of tea, but I know quality when I see it) … Multiplayer scores 5 out of 10(at best). Warhawk, Bad Company, Fat Princess, CoD, Resistance are better on PS3. Hell even I have to admit Halo has better multiplayer. Truely you guys are off the mark on this one. I don’t care what you folks say, there has gotta be something in the watter over there

OH MY GOD.

How did i know there would be a fanboy/PS3/U2 hater posting in here?!

@pracer Your entitled to your opinion, its just a pity it marks you out as a misguided fool. Uncharted 2 has a multiplayer better than any other 3rd person shooter i’ve played, such as MGS4, Red Faction and Gears. I can only assume your played the beta whilst squinting and wearing mittens, as i’ve found it fluid, fast paced and a joy to run up and around some very tight maps. The accusation that it doesn’t handle enough players is absurd. 1) Its a beta so may accomdate more in the final version 2) How many 3rd person shooter’s comfortably handle big team games? 3) You neglect to mention the various co-op modes that give its multiplayer yet more depth. Yes their may be something in the water here in euroland, but god knows what you’ve been mainlining to recommend resistance!

I love it, say something about a PS3 game and Bam your a fanboy! Go away Ghetto, your an idiot. Would a Xbot fanboy understand the awesomeness of Fat Princess? I think not. Look me up on PSN – same handle as here. I don’t play PS3 much because I don’t live in the UK. It just ain’t as popular here. I honestly don’t know ANYONE besides me who owns a PS3. No one. All of my friends and family that do own game systems, have xboxs or Wiis. Like I said go away.
As for Orbit… ever play Lost Planet? 3rd person action shooter, intense online play, and more then just 5 vs 5 matches in a fish bowel. To be far the size of the maps weren’t a prob in my book for UC2. It was the size of the teams, and the maps were suited for the small number. It just felt very much like last Gen xbox games. I remember playing Mechassult on LIVE, the game would only support 8 players. The team concept is worthless in that enviroment. Clunky? Yes sir, when you see a pile of boxes in a darkend corner, and you jump. the animation is weak at best. Your char is always hunched over and does NOT interact with the enviroment well. UC2 is in the reminds me of a poor mans Gears(and no I didn’t just praise Gears of War). But lest is gears the chars movement is more fluid. Play gears, watch the way the chars automaticly aliegn themself with walls, and other objects, without you having to press a button to do so. And yes you still have options to reposition your char if you like. Again no I don’t play Gears, but my teenage son does.
Let me also point out another flaw you have. If there is no problem with UC only having 10 players, why do you point out that it MAY have more down the road, you know .. after beta? You see its like your admiting, you think it needs more too. as for your NUMBER 2, again go play Lost planet. Have you tried Warhawk at all? ‘Nuff said there. I agree I didn’t comment of co-op. I haven’t played it. But in the end isn’t co-op simply the single player story mode with a friend? Hard to even call that multiplayer at all. At least in the sense that it truely seperates itself in anyways shape or form from the single player experience. Your playing single player, but with a friend. Sure its multiplayer, but don’t pretend to be that dense that you can’t see my point.

Uncharted is simply an example of ps3 fans shouting “Look, we can do nice games too.” and asking “Doesn’t that count as something?” The whole thing is stupid. If you need a agem to justify your ownership of a PS3, no prob. But if your touting UC2 like its the holy grail of gaming, sorry that ain’t gonna cut it. Because you pointed out Gears, ask yourself what sold better Gears or UC1? Interesting. Is UC2 a good game … yes it is. Is it the end all be all – hell no. And as for multiplayer – it isn’t even good. You were right about it trumping MGS tho. That game needs rethinking. But thats another post.

@ Pracer

You sir only played for 24 minutes ,68 deaths , 26 kills and only level 5 for 9 matches wich is horrible.

http://www.naughtydog.com/stats/index/pracer

I’m guessing you don’t know how to play uncharted 2 and started bashing it.

Like me~ ..I started playing halo 3 a year later and i started bashing it..My friend taught me how to play better and i loved it after..I mean, anyone would hate a game if you die 20 times and only killed like….what?..3 guys in a match ~:)

Trust me, try to get the hang of it and you’ll love it.
UC2 multiplayer gives you some kind of adrenaline when you everything goes the way you want it.

Have a good night sir !

@pracer I’m afraid i just cannot agree. Yes i’ve played Warhawk and for me UC2 knocks it’s spots off. Admitedly i never played Lost Planet online, but the single player storyline was so dull i won’t go back. As for UC2 being a poor mans Gears, i can only assume your sitting on your keyboard and letting your arse do the talking.
But thats MY love of UC talking. Both Gears and UC while having similar gameplay, have very different styles, story and character’s. Big, butch, bald, homoerotic space marines do it for you North Americans i guess.
P.s Judging a games quality on sales? Oh dear, reminds me of those Activision execs trying to force Infinity Ward to make another WW2 fps, because that’s what shift’s units.
P.p.s UC2 the holy grail of gaming… nah, that’ll be UC3! Elana naked edition! mmmh Elana…

@pracer: you typed all that and fail to realise that everyone has different taste, I for one am loving the demo play it every chance I get.. You don’t like it? woopdie doooo!

I for one must say i’m totally confused why people are calling Uncharted 2 UC2. Uncharted is one word so it’s either U2 or U2:AT. Right i’m off to play some ‘B:Ark As’

Hey pra(n)cer that’s pretty funny you telling me to go away. Every time I click on an Uncharted 2 article (regardless of the specific subject matter), you always seem to be here typing some long winded, multiple paragraph shit storm bashing and insulting the game. Never on specific topic either. Just the same old, repeated bashing.

WE GET IT. You don’t like the game. That doesn’t change the fact that U2 currently has 17 perfect review scores out there and 23 more all coming in at 90 and above.

But what defines you the best is your style of debate. I talk about the game with respects to other games. It’s not about PS3 owners, non-PS3 owners, X360 owners, or non-X360 owners. Videogames to me should be judged game to game…regardless of platform. You always go the system wars route and immidiately start citing X360 that and PS3 that, etc. Don’t you realize how that sounds? Fanboy-ish. The very definition.

The fact that you played the game for less than 30 minutes and are so strong opinionated on it’s worthiness….now THAT’S fucking hysterical.

Thanks for those stats, Zorkai. Now, the next time pracer goes on a comparison rampage (LP? WH? Are you serious? Surely you jest or are under heavy medication for sleep deprivation and depression.), just post those stats and Shut ‘em Down (Ha!).

@ prancer

NOTHING could be as bad as Halo….unless its Mario.

Now go, itll soon be time for you to pull Santas sleigh with all the other reindeer.

I agree with pracer to a certain extent.

To be perfectly honest, I’ve never even seen what’s supposed to be so amazing about the way that this game looks, but I thought that I was the only one!

I played the demo and wasn’t impressed in the least. I must have put hundreds of hours into Gears 1 multiplayer, and I genuinely didn’t think that UC2 is even as good as that. I have no idea why people are raving so much about this game. I mean, why in the world do you have to aim before you can swap weapons!?

Two shots from a pistol before you have to reload is annoying too. Especially if you have lag, and two direct hits does absolutely nothing to the guy that you’re shooting at.

There’s definitely something of the ‘Emperor’s new clothes’ about this game IMHO.

Oh dear another poor sod who can’t play Uncharted to save his life. ‘Why do you have to aim to switch weapons?’ Um, you don’t?

hint (since you obviously haven’t twigged onto this yourself) use the d-pad.

actually, the Pistole does kill a guy with 2 direct hits; but you have to use it like a shotgun.

I am pretty impressed by my stats, didn’t even know I had a stats page
http://www.naughtydog.com/stats/index/lorandkoncz

@G1GAHURTZ I can only assume you had been over doing the ritalin before giving the U2 (Happy McLovin85?) a 5 minute play. 1) 2 shots will not always take down your opponent if your not, well, actually on target? I’m sure you thought you were, but who knows what you were seeing? 2 ) The PISTOL has 15 or so shots before reloading.The PISTOLE is a 2 shot hand cannon. If you started with this you were playing a PISTOLE and SNIPER RIFLE only match. You would have noticed this on the map voting stage if you hadn’t been popping meds like skittle’s and spanking your monkey over bald space marines.

Yeah, well done. I suppose you could be right. Maybe I just don’t like the game because I’m just completely useless at it, and I don’t know how to play these shooty-type games.

Yeah… The mp could well be absolutely amazing, but because silly old me might have been high on drugs or something, I would have just not been able to see the utter amazing brilliance that the game really is, right?

Or maybe you’re just talking crap.

I even just gave it another go. A completely open minded 2nd try to see if I’d just had a bad first game or something, but nope. No change in my opinion.

Yeah, I’ll admit that the first time, I just wanted to get into the action, and all I did was press X until the game loaded, which is perfectly reasonable, as I’ve probably played more hours of online shooters than most, if not every single other person on this forum in my time, so I should have been able to play without too much trouble. While I was doing that, the only hint that I remember reading was one that said that you change weapons by aiming and pressing triangle, so that’s why I only did it that way.

Anyway, the 2nd game that I just played was worse than the first one at the end of the day, so I don’t see what the game could offer me to change my opinion.

As for this ridiculous notion that the only people who don’t like the game are people who are bad at it, then that’s an utterly stupid claim.

You don’t need to force yourself to play a game for 5 or 6 hours before you suddenly realise how ‘good’ it is. If it’s good, you’ll know within 5 minutes whether you like it or not, and that’s whether you you’re good at it or not.

I wasn’t any good at Gears 1 when I first tried it, but I liked it almost immediately, even though I kept finishing games with 0 kills.

There’s nothing special about this game. Almost every single review says that it doesn’t offer anything new, and with that being the case, I don’t think that it can offer me anything that the hundreds of hours that I played Gears for didn’t already do.

well, you know, I think for people without a 360, the multiplayer is a fine gears substitute. I am not a fan of either, but I do enjoy UC2 a tad more due to it feeling more dynamic.

Yeah, I think that it’s true that PS3 owners who never played Gears may well really like the mp in this game, because up until now, they haven’t had a similar online mp TPS that came close in terms of quality.

Can’t there be one comment section that doesn’t decent into my favourite console/game is better than yours tirade?

You do know that it’s actually possible to compare two games without either of them being your favourite, right?

g1ga, no, it’s not. this is the internet, dude.

Stuff like “Gears”, “multiplayer” and “quality” all in the same sentences… Scary.

“You do know that it’s actually possible to compare two games without either of them being your favourite, right?”

Yes, it is, but doing so on the internet only leads to idiotic fanboys arguments in 9 out of 10 cases.

See that is the thing, I never said I hated PS3 or that I loved xbox. The trouble with a game like UC2 is that only one side of the equation seems to be touting it so much. Most folks that own both systems and play both systems are looking at UC2 and thinking “wth, its not that good”. Because it isn’t. It’s just a marketing push and a hype monster. And while I do tend to be a tad long winded and often full of myself, the reason I keep coming back is utter disbelief and annouence to the same effect. I know I need to let it go. And it bothers me less then some of you must think. I am a gamer first, I own ever system I can get my hands on, from TurboDuo and Neo Geo to 360, PS3, and Wii. I even own a Virtual Boy! I play everything. And yes opinions vary and tastes vary. But I know a great game when I see it. UC2 is just not there. Not for me. And I am guessing not for a lot of people. I would UC2 will sell well. Prolly in euro judging the difference between website lets say 1-up vs vg247. Americans just aren’t as blown away with this game as our friends across the water seem to be. Lest you looked up my name/handle thank you – proves I played it. I will log on my PS3 later today for friend invites, if I can get a few mins on the TV, my 13 yr old is playing Battle for Middle Earth on xb360 – btw same handle there too if your interested. I play the crap out of Civ Rev, NCAA football, Bad Company, and lots of arcade games. My kids plays Halo. Looks us up. As for having to play a game hours and hours to know if it is good – nope. I loved WoW the moment I played it. You should have seen my accidental team killing spree in Bad company(I dropped mortar strikes like rain … and mostly in the wrong spots). If I liked UC2 I would have played it more. I just didn’t. The graphics are fine, not revolutionary but good. The control feels forced, the animation is clunky, the team size is too small, the weapons are boring, etc. Why do I compare it to games on other systems? Because I own other systems, and have played said games. Do you and have you? If not which one of that does a fanboy make? The fact is if ND made UC games for the xb360 it would make far less of a splash. The games reviews and scores would be down a good 20%, and not too many people would notice. It happens to a lot of games of xbox. Its a bigger pond. The game market is much smaller for PS3 and with less games the good ones stand taller. Do you think UC2 could stand shoulder to shoulder with Gears? Halo? Me either. But on PS3 there is no Gears or Halo. Go play Lost Planet online. The offline is weak, its a Japanese story after all. Kind of generic, with gameplay balancing issues. But the online? Head and shoulders abouve UC2. And yes LP has hieght, even grapling hooks to help to you get there. Why didn’t LP get noticed? It did on XB, again more fish, bigger pond. On PS3, you say! Yea, but when it came out on PS3 the system wasn’t selling. Dollars to doughnuts most of you (ps3 only folks) haven’t played it online. Also PSNs online stability is far better now then it used to be. Older PS3 games didn’t play very well online, its much better and smoother today. I bought one of the BC launch PS3, I remember the early days. I still have nightmares about playing Untold Legends Old Kingdom. Anyways back to LP, look at what it offers, what it does, and then fast forward to UC2. Very similar games imo. Just that LP handled online much better. I think – sry can’t remember w/o going back to play it but LP was 24 player online. But even if it was only 16 thats still 60% more then UC2. In the end I am glad you like your game. I don’t and a lot of people are going to be wondering what the big deal is. Kinda like G1GA did. It doesn’t freaken mean they are fanboys, but maybe, just maybe they have been exposed to ebtter games and are open minded enough to try them. A fanboy doesn’t play anything except their chosen system. I play everything. In doing so I am informed, and if I rant and rave about your fav system, I can see how some people could think I am a blinded fanboy. But I know better, so should you.

@Jonarob

Prety much the same feelings here. Except I didn’t like UC single player, but had no prob saying it wasn’t my cup of tea. And well that and I just like to use more words

Pracer Uncharted 2 has recieved a lot of perfect reviews from american sites and from 1up. I own both systems and have played gears and halo and dont think much of either. Uncharted 2 looks to have an amazing single player and a good online, whilst gears may have an amazing multiplayer to a lot of people but the the singe player is just generic and has no colour variety just greys. The Ps3 has many different games that do reasonably good numbers for the marketing sony spend on them which is none

Pracer the “facts” you contriv in your mind and puke all over the internet are weak, meaningless, and completely irrelevant as they have no basis in reality.

“Most folks that own both systems and play both systems are looking at UC2 and thinking “wth, its not that good. Because it isn’t. It’s just a marketing push and a hype monster….”

Great example. You know what most folks are thinking, right? Nevermind the 40 professional reviews, positive feedback, and awards that indicate to the contrary..

“Because I own other systems, and have played said games. Do you and have you? If not which one of that does a fanboy make?”

Yes and yes. Here we go again, I own both systems (just my X360 is broke at the moment). I’ve played through all the Halos and Gears as well, Lost Planet too. Fantastic games. Never catered to one console over the other. Sega, Mircosoft, Nintendo, Sony, Atari, I’ve owned and loved them all. Again, I argue the game quality, not system/manufacturer loyalty. But you like to continually bring in system ownership like it’s qualitative data that has some basis on whether an exclusive game is good or not. LOL

“But I know a great game when I see it. UC2 is just not there. Not for me. And I am guessing not for a lot of people.”

Cool man. If Fat Princess is your thing….go to it. You don’t need to convince the world that U2 is bad. AGAIN, you “guessing not for a lot of people” is asinine.

“The fact is if ND made UC games for the xb360 it would make far less of a splash. The games reviews and scores would be down a good 20%, and not too many people would notice.”

Yeah, you’re probalbly right. Great “fact”. Makes all your other words very credible..

And the PS3 is not my favorite system. AGAIN, for you to ASSUME it is JUST because I think U2 is a great game, defines your debate skills crystal clearly and puts the fanboy/idiot hat on your head.

You’re postings/arguments are ridiculously weak and you’ve demonstrated that clearly several times over now. Stating your opinion is fine, but to state/assume the opinion of OTHERS is ludicrous and elimates ANY credibility to your posting whatsoever. You also repeatedly make up “facts”.

P.S. Try pressing “enter” once in awhile and creating what’s called a paragraph.. Easier on the eyes to read.

whilst gears may have an amazing multiplayer to a lot of people but the the singe player is just generic and has no colour variety just greys

someone never played gears 2…

someone never played gears 2…

Fair did mate and i found the single player to be marines with the same epic games look to the characters shooting aliens just my opinion though.

Like jonarob said you cant compare these two games both have thier fanbases that like the games

“Like jonarob said you cant compare these two games both have thier fanbases that like the games”

The comparisons being made are in direct regards to the cover system, and team-mate life saving system (in co-op). It’s a fair comparison, but that’s where the game comparisons should stop as they’re two TOTALLY different types of games that happen to use a similar cover system.

“UCone” Really? That has to be the dumbest possible way to abbreviate Uncharted.

Anyway, I freaking love the multiplayer, though I did think it was a little “meh” at first. I get that some of you don’t, but that doesn’t mean we’re trying to over sell it. And I don’t think you can compare it to other multiplayer TPS’s out there (ex. Gears). I remember hearing someone describe it as the first competitive multiplayer platformer or something like that. It’s the verticality that makes it so amazing.

“Now, UC2 gets high scoring reviews and people have to shoehorn it in-line with a vaguely similar game on a competing platform that it’s scoring higher than to win an argument. Stop it.

If you only have one of the consoles, unlucky, but stop trying to tell people that one exclusive game is better than the other; it’s not. They’re both good.”

I think that right there best sums up my angst with this game. And the press that it is getting. PS3 only folks trying to convince everyone else that because of UC2 they are now somehow better then everyone else and that the PS3 has somehow now arrived. It reminds me of the Sony exec saying that while the PS3 is expensive(at launch) we should all be happy to go out and get a second job just to afford it.
For what it is worth, I agree with Ghetto, the comparisons are valid along the lines of perspective, cover and co-op. I think Gears went for a more intense action and UC goes for more of an “adventure” feel. Who is is say what one is “better”. Thats up to the gamer to decide what one they like, and no one says they can’t like both. I really get ticked at the folks that are touting the UC2 MP. It would be like the Giglo dressed in big puffy white shirt, unbuttoned five buttons down, skin tight plaid polyester pants struiting around and honestly thinking he is cool.(think Austin Powers). Make ya just want to cringe and laugh at him.

@pracer So your problem with Uncharted 2 is that PS3 owners are using it to make you feel inferior? Ok take a deep breath… and repeat… Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Microsoft will always love me.
I can’t really help you with your anger issues regarding people who enjoy the multiplayer … Maybe G1GAHURTZ has some ritalin left?

Yet you seem to be able to control your anger against Forza 3 Pracer? I mean over the last few weeks there has been just as much coverage of that then UC2. Main difference is that Turn 10 are blantantly stating that their game is better then others, Something ND isnt doing.

“PS3 only folks trying to convince everyone else that because of UC2 they are now somehow better then everyone else and that the PS3 has somehow now arrived.”

Paranoid much? This state of mind just shows how much the PS3 getting a good exclusive gets under your 360 fanboy skin (even if you do own both consoles).
You really want to accuse nearly all of the the gaming media as being: “ps3 fans shouting “Look, we can do nice games too.” and asking “Doesn’t that count as something?”?

Quit being such a butt-hurt fanboy Pracer, your just making youself look like an ignorant fool.

What sort of fanboy is he then? Because I’m sure that he’s already said that he owns a PS3…

I’m sure that he can defend himself, but I don’t see the logic in calling someone a fanboy just because they point out faults in a game.

If I don’t like Halo, does that make me a Sony fanboy? What about if I just don’t like MGS or think Mario Galaxy is rubbish. Am I an MS fanboy? What if I don’t like all 3… What does that make me then? A PC fanboy?

It’s a nonsense. It’s like if you were to go around in CoD articles, pointing out faults in it, and I then started calling you an EA fanboy, who can’t get over his love of MoH.

In any case, it’s quite naive to think that the gaming media wouldn’t look for a traffic generating so-called killer app at the time of a major price drop. It’s a successful business strategy that increases traffic, advertising revenue and profits.

Theres a big difference between simply not likeing something and trolling every single article about it whilst saying that the very idea its getting mentioned bothers you, blaming the whole thing on some sort of conspiracy then calling everyone who does like it an attention seeking fanboy.

Sorry G1GA but no matter how you want to spin this Pracer is just undefendable.

Let me just jump in here to pick apart the terrible “America vs, Euro UC2 love” strawman by directing you to Neogaf (Using 1UP was cute, but I’m a longtime member. Those forums are dead. Comment section? Ha.), the largest(?), most culturally diverse forum out there. Read that UC2 thread and tell me that those members, new and old, and moderators are saying that the beta is the most fun they have ever had in a multiplayer game, on any system, is because they only own a PS3. Or haven’t experienced GeoW2 and LP (*giggle*).

No, its the minority (detractors/haters) in this situation that have it backwards. The MP is amazing, your inability to recognize as much is your fault, not the game’s. Give credit where credit is due; Your recognition of greatness isn’t a necessity for applause. Say your piece, congratulate, move on. This fixation with trying to discredit a good game is becoming pathetic.

I don’t know what else I can say. Some folks are just going to see what they want to see. I gave the UC franchise its credit. I would ball park the games single player offerings in the 8.5 – 9.5 offerings. But imo the MP cames in between 4.5 – 5.5 out of a ten pnt system. Those are my opinions. I can’t fake them, and won’t change them. They are opinions. I have tried to defend them, and doing that labels me a fanboy. Obviously I am not. But then again, some folks will indeed see what they want to see.
I wish I had G1GAs flare for getting to heart of the matter, I tend to use too many words, type as if I was talking, and the size of my posts seems to turn some folks off too. lol. Guess that’s the writter in me, it’s what I do. And, yes, thank god for spell/grammer check in MS word. I agree w/G1GA, don’t you feel that so called fanboy issues(what systems sells more in a given month, review scores of exclusive games, etc) drive website trafic? Do I think that thousands of game reviewers are colaberating together to inflate the review score of a PS3 game? No, not really. But I think sites like VG247 love to see us posting about it. And I do think there is some common knowledge and understanding of how the mostly male posters seem to flare up, pump their chests, and throw down over one game vs another. And yes, I think that said reviewers, websites, and mags use said knowledge, to drive sales and trafic. Its their biz and they are good at it. We of course take the bait each and every time.
Speaking of bait, I am not taking the bait on Forza 3. Not really. But I will say this. Personialy I don’t like Forza, I also don’t like GT. I feel that those games have aimed to make the focus of gameplay fighting their “Real world physics” to control the cars, rather then the actual racing on the track. My fav racers this gen are F1 Champ ed(Gasp! did he just name a PS3 game!), Sega Rally, and Race Pro. All of those racers allow excelnt single and multiplayer racing. And they have enough driver assists that the cars can be controlled, driven, and good racing can be had. In terms of quality between Forza and GT? I can’t say, I don’t play either and am not qualified to offer comment. Go look for someone else to fight with over that issue.
My handle btw is the first letter of my first name + racer. I raced in real life for 12 years, and love racing. I hate to shatter the image a couple of you have over me being some sort of flamboiant reindeer wanna be
As for NDs UC2. Lets put it to bed. Agree to dissagree. I know your crazy for your claims of its MP greatness … so thats good enough for me. Lets see how/if the game drives sales. And yes in the end thats one of the best ways to see if the general game buying public is into a game or not. I know its easy to say that sales don’t matter. But most of the time people that claim that too loudly are folks that don’t like popular games or folks that love unpopular ones. Wanna example? The xbox360 out sells the PS3, and we can all see the fight in some folks that only own one system. Again Sales do matter. I can also think of more then a few games that are wonderful, that don’t sell. Often time because of marketing budgets, or bad release windows etc. But the fact is Gears sells because alot people enjoy it. xb360 sells for the same reason. Your just gonna have to dseal with that. Warning !disclaimer! I am not suggesting one system is better then another. Just pointing out something that a couple ppl seem to be overlooking.
Lets see how UC2 does in sales. I hope ND the best of luck, I have enjoyed more then one or two of their past games.

Anyway 5 days to Uncharted 2 is out, who will be picking it up? I am, will be the best game of this year for me

“I don’t know what else I can say. [snip]”

Why did you write that long comment than?

Not 5 days for me, Game sent it yesterday. the release date here is the 14th apparently.

Gekidami

are you british cause if there is a way to get it before the release date i wouldnt mind knowing

edit the release date in the uk is the 16th btw

I dont live in the UK no, retailers here all have the game listed for the 14th so thats when they’re releasing it. Theres no special way really.

Maybe the 16th is a UK only thing, if i remember correctly Killzone 2 also came out later in the UK.

“Why did you write that long comment than?”

Because I know how much you like to read my long comments

@pracer. Actually i’ve read your aimless musings with an appalled fascination. Here’s 3 words for that supposed writer in you. Quality not quantity.
Bringing the subject back round to Uncharted, the 16th seems far away Still i have that AWESOME! GOW BEATING! beta to tide me over