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	<title>Comments on: All Take-Two games &#8220;need to have a download component,&#8221; says Feder</title>
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		<title>By: Phoenixblight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenixblight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there are companies like Rocksteady and Valve who release free DLCs. Can&#039;t say much about Rocksteady as of yet but Valve has put out great DLCs that are FREE and are better than most DLCs. 

Overall I think we have to make the decision of whats a good DLC and whats a bad one, if we will pay for it or not get it at all, thats what it boils down to. DLCs are now a standard it seems and it will not stop, If people will pay for X costume why give it out for free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there are companies like Rocksteady and Valve who release free DLCs. Can&#8217;t say much about Rocksteady as of yet but Valve has put out great DLCs that are FREE and are better than most DLCs. </p>
<p>Overall I think we have to make the decision of whats a good DLC and whats a bad one, if we will pay for it or not get it at all, thats what it boils down to. DLCs are now a standard it seems and it will not stop, If people will pay for X costume why give it out for free?</p>
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		<title>By: Neolucifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neolucifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But they are not , every but a select few are doing it .You cant really point the finger at a black sheep when the whole sheep pen is mostly composed of it . Okay there is that dark one with red eyes named activision that catch the eye , and the fat black one in the back called EA ... but that&#039;s pretty much it .

Hell you wanna know who are the best recent fighting games out there ? SF4 and Blazblue probably ... and what would they sell ? colors and costumes , a usually de facto component of any fighting game

I know i&#039;m stubborn  or call me a paranoid , but no , i see the inherent nature of DLC as a bad thing period . The only good ones are basically what we used to call just addons , and were the same idea of additional content that could make a mini or half the original game itself , at a cheaper price ... it only has gone digital this era .

However the true bulk of dlc comes from the very same rotten apple that spawned the infamous horse armor . Hell it&#039;s no luck or coincidence it was one of the first .

The concept came to life with the idea of selling previously free content .

All &quot;haters of old&quot; predicted pretty much every steps of the way publishers would find way to produce and force more dlc . And again there is very little vote involved when to even simply enjoy some games with other , you do need that so called optional feature . They are only beginning to make dlc a basically &quot;essential extra&quot; , and people are laping it up , and thus forcing the rest around them who wouldnt follow suit .

Hell we now even see people getting sad when a studio announce there wont be dlc for a game .

Anyway enough with my rant , enjoy the paid freedbies and very rare good packs of content :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But they are not , every but a select few are doing it .You cant really point the finger at a black sheep when the whole sheep pen is mostly composed of it . Okay there is that dark one with red eyes named activision that catch the eye , and the fat black one in the back called EA &#8230; but that&#8217;s pretty much it .</p>
<p>Hell you wanna know who are the best recent fighting games out there ? SF4 and Blazblue probably &#8230; and what would they sell ? colors and costumes , a usually de facto component of any fighting game</p>
<p>I know i&#8217;m stubborn  or call me a paranoid , but no , i see the inherent nature of DLC as a bad thing period . The only good ones are basically what we used to call just addons , and were the same idea of additional content that could make a mini or half the original game itself , at a cheaper price &#8230; it only has gone digital this era .</p>
<p>However the true bulk of dlc comes from the very same rotten apple that spawned the infamous horse armor . Hell it&#8217;s no luck or coincidence it was one of the first .</p>
<p>The concept came to life with the idea of selling previously free content .</p>
<p>All &#8220;haters of old&#8221; predicted pretty much every steps of the way publishers would find way to produce and force more dlc . And again there is very little vote involved when to even simply enjoy some games with other , you do need that so called optional feature . They are only beginning to make dlc a basically &#8220;essential extra&#8221; , and people are laping it up , and thus forcing the rest around them who wouldnt follow suit .</p>
<p>Hell we now even see people getting sad when a studio announce there wont be dlc for a game .</p>
<p>Anyway enough with my rant , enjoy the paid freedbies and very rare good packs of content :p</p>
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		<title>By: Neolucifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neolucifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nvm sorry double post </description>
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		<title>By: Phoenixblight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenixblight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you for the most part Neo but thats the company decision that are putting them out, its up to us to decide whats a bad DLC (Horse armor anyone?) but in turn what is a good one? We decide what is bad or good by our currency. I have for one learned that do not buy Capcom DLC and Lionhead so far. I don&#039;t play Activision games for the obvious reasons.

Rockstar on the other hand can obviously make very good DLC. 

If a developer wants to make a half baked game then release DLC to make more money, they will be shooting themselves in the foot and will be losing their fan base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you for the most part Neo but thats the company decision that are putting them out, its up to us to decide whats a bad DLC (Horse armor anyone?) but in turn what is a good one? We decide what is bad or good by our currency. I have for one learned that do not buy Capcom DLC and Lionhead so far. I don&#8217;t play Activision games for the obvious reasons.</p>
<p>Rockstar on the other hand can obviously make very good DLC. </p>
<p>If a developer wants to make a half baked game then release DLC to make more money, they will be shooting themselves in the foot and will be losing their fan base.</p>
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		<title>By: Neolucifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neolucifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok sure GTA&#039;s dlc is one of the few good ones , but let&#039;s be honest here ... they didnt commit to produce good dlcs , just to produce dlcs for every titles no matter what .

And when we are frank and honest we already knews what kind of crap awaits precisely in games of lesser caliber . Content purposely removed from games , content already on the disc but deactivated , or stuff that could or should have been freebies , but is too juicy to not benefits from .

The very few good dlc packs are stuff that could have been addons at easily the same price or close and dont really offset the damage done by 99% of the others .

I , of course await the eternal &quot;you dont have to buy it&quot; wich is a load of crap . When at least half of the population of say a popular fps , or your friend list get the dlc , how do you think that affects you ?

Will you try pretending to be some rebel or che guevara ?  No you&#039;ll get it usually . why ?

Because not getting those infamous map packs will cut your access to  at least half servers , prevents you to play with your friends or to be a competitive player in tournaments and such .

You dont have to buy that filthy color pack or costume pack for your fighting games characters ? Who are we kidding ?  How many  plays fighting games without access to at least a few colors or alternative costumes you&#039;d enjoy ? Especially if they cut it off and restrain selection , knowing a lot of people want those kind of stuff ?

I&#039;m sorry but i agree with Syrok here that DLC are quite hateful and evil . I truly despite them since they are not truly always unavoidable , and most of all since , even if you were to buy none of those , they still affect the integrity and content of any of your game !
Whatever you decide , it&#039;s still often content you already paid that was removed .

PS : while we are mentioning good dlcs , i&#039;d nominated those from burnout paradise too . At least criterion gave us massive amount of freebies and a complete new game within the game : bikes .

And in the same vein , Wipeout HD Fury</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok sure GTA&#8217;s dlc is one of the few good ones , but let&#8217;s be honest here &#8230; they didnt commit to produce good dlcs , just to produce dlcs for every titles no matter what .</p>
<p>And when we are frank and honest we already knews what kind of crap awaits precisely in games of lesser caliber . Content purposely removed from games , content already on the disc but deactivated , or stuff that could or should have been freebies , but is too juicy to not benefits from .</p>
<p>The very few good dlc packs are stuff that could have been addons at easily the same price or close and dont really offset the damage done by 99% of the others .</p>
<p>I , of course await the eternal &#8220;you dont have to buy it&#8221; wich is a load of crap . When at least half of the population of say a popular fps , or your friend list get the dlc , how do you think that affects you ?</p>
<p>Will you try pretending to be some rebel or che guevara ?  No you&#8217;ll get it usually . why ?</p>
<p>Because not getting those infamous map packs will cut your access to  at least half servers , prevents you to play with your friends or to be a competitive player in tournaments and such .</p>
<p>You dont have to buy that filthy color pack or costume pack for your fighting games characters ? Who are we kidding ?  How many  plays fighting games without access to at least a few colors or alternative costumes you&#8217;d enjoy ? Especially if they cut it off and restrain selection , knowing a lot of people want those kind of stuff ?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but i agree with Syrok here that DLC are quite hateful and evil . I truly despite them since they are not truly always unavoidable , and most of all since , even if you were to buy none of those , they still affect the integrity and content of any of your game !<br />
Whatever you decide , it&#8217;s still often content you already paid that was removed .</p>
<p>PS : while we are mentioning good dlcs , i&#8217;d nominated those from burnout paradise too . At least criterion gave us massive amount of freebies and a complete new game within the game : bikes .</p>
<p>And in the same vein , Wipeout HD Fury</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenixblight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenixblight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5 I agree with Cullen. Lost and the Damned was the best DLC. With Fallout for me its been hit and Miss, Mother Zeta was my favorite DLC of that game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5 I agree with Cullen. Lost and the Damned was the best DLC. With Fallout for me its been hit and Miss, Mother Zeta was my favorite DLC of that game.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one game that I can think of that has great consistant DLC this gen: Grand Theft Auto IV.

The Lost and Damned was brilliant and, while not out yet for another month and a half, The Ballad of Gay Tony is shaping to be probably the finest piece of DLC ever imo.

Of course, there is Fallout 3, but you could argue over that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one game that I can think of that has great consistant DLC this gen: Grand Theft Auto IV.</p>
<p>The Lost and Damned was brilliant and, while not out yet for another month and a half, The Ballad of Gay Tony is shaping to be probably the finest piece of DLC ever imo.</p>
<p>Of course, there is Fallout 3, but you could argue over that.</p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
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		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t think of a game, where I&#039;d what DLC.

I reckon most people like us Syrok won&#039;t enjoy DLC, but our children will.

Just got to learn to love whats good about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of a game, where I&#8217;d what DLC.</p>
<p>I reckon most people like us Syrok won&#8217;t enjoy DLC, but our children will.</p>
<p>Just got to learn to love whats good about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Syrok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syrok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure actually. The main thing I dislike is game producer announcing DLC before they even released the game. Makes it look to me like they could have just included it in the game.
And I don&#039;t like the amount of money some charge for tiny things like a new shirt/costumes/stickers.

Hmm, thinking about it I don&#039;t hate DLC I just find it largely useless for the consumers or overpriced. In both cases &quot;You don&#039;t have to buy it&quot; comments are perfectly valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure actually. The main thing I dislike is game producer announcing DLC before they even released the game. Makes it look to me like they could have just included it in the game.<br />
And I don&#8217;t like the amount of money some charge for tiny things like a new shirt/costumes/stickers.</p>
<p>Hmm, thinking about it I don&#8217;t hate DLC I just find it largely useless for the consumers or overpriced. In both cases &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to buy it&#8221; comments are perfectly valid.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Garratt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Garratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you hate about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you hate about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Syrok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syrok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; it’s nice to hear.&quot;

Not really. 

/hates DLC
/especially EA DLC
/awaits comments like &quot;You don&#039;t have to buy it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; it’s nice to hear.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really. </p>
<p>/hates DLC<br />
/especially EA DLC<br />
/awaits comments like &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to buy it&#8221;</p>
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