Sony reveals lifetime sales for PS3 and PS3 titles

thats good i wanna see how many 360 has done probly alot more

Just under 8 games per PS3 isn’t bad I suppose.

Does anyone know the 360 ratio?

One thing that has always eluded me, is do these numbers take into account of hardware failure. So yeah, Sony has shipped 23.8 mil units. How many of those no longer work? Yes, that was a shot.

I think that’s a bigger problem with the 360…

I honestly would be completely interested in what percentage of 360 were bought again.

If there really was a 33 percent failure rate, you’d have to make some assumptions on what percentage would buy again, but most people are fine with one breakage.

I wonder what percentage could actually be re-purchasing. As I have said many times, all 3 of my friends with 360′s repurchased at one time or more.

… and then got their RRoD’d machines repaired for free, I’d hope.

I have shared a lot about my friends recently, that doesn’t shed them in a good light. Here I will continue that trend.

Not only did all of my friends buy new ones, but one told me he considered a PS3 (before repurchasing), but he thought it couldn’t play DVD’s; only Blu-Rays, so he didn’t buy it.

So… Along with Prototype being too thematically close to Assassins Creed, there is another example of how marketing can filter through to people and give them the wrong impression or miss them completely.

But seriously, it’s hardly a habit to call the manufacturer if something breaks down. You take it back to the shop you bought it from (atleast where I come from).

Slayer that’s not shipped, that’s sold to consumer. And PS3 hardware failure is known to be at a very low rate, is it not?

PUD, many of the people I know who’ve had a 360 failure have bought another straight away then sold the mended unit when it came back.

I apologize. My comment was a shot at the 360.

Since we’ll are sharing our RROD stories, Iv been through one. On my second, but I haven’t turned it on since my sub for live expired 9-10 months ago. I didn’t have to pay for my second. It was still under Gamestop’s warranty. My friend on the other hand has been through two pros, an arcade, a power supply, and has yet to replace his wireless network thing since it crapped out. He didn’t have to pay for one of the pros, but the rest was out of pocket. His first arcade bit it from his frustration. He beat it all to shit when it RROD’d. And he is STILL a MS diehard. It’s sad. =)

I know Sony’s track record. I’v been a fan since 1995. I’v had two Playstations (first one burned up playing FFVII for ten hour intervals, one PS2 (that I had to open a few times to adjust for the RDE), and my PS3 is in top form. I’ll cry if anything happens to it. I love playing my old PS1 and PS2 games on occasion.

MS on the other hand, got an Xbox two years in. Two years later it was useless. I got the 360 for PGR3. I would have sold it a while ago, but it’s not worth shit. Now it’s collecting dust until I can play a demo of Forza. We’ll see what happens after that.

“Since its 2006 launch, Sony has tracked how many PS3 consoles and games have been sold to the public, not just to retailers.”

That’s incorrect. Sony now tracks sold to retailer figures, whereas they used to track shipped to their warehouses. They changed it so that they now use the exact same methodology as Microsoft and Nintendo.

Kotaku get this wrong every single time they post a story on this sort of thing. Muppets.

Kotaku get a lot of shit wrong.

I blame Brian Crecente

But what about his winning smile?!

It’s like there’s pieces of digested corn wedged in his gums…

Wow, I don’t dislike the guy THAT much.

On the RROD thing. I have had three xbox’s. I bought one, gave it to a friend when I got another as a gift, and later bought a elite for the large hd and HDMI port.
The xbox i recieved as a gift has been in the shop twice, first time for freezing but noo RROD, the 2nd for RROD. The other two xbox have never had any issues. The first one i gave to a friend has never had any issues.

I apologize. My comment was a shot at the 360.
Your comments are just sad

People keep acting as if you have to buy a new 360 if it RRoDs. That’s nonsense. But I bet 3-5 million of those PS3s, if not more since stores like Best Buy and Circuit City were pushing them, were bought strictly as Blu-ray players. SO PS3 sales as a console are actually still under 20 million. On the other hand that also means the attach rate is better than it is given credit for.

fwiw i’m pretty sure warranty replacements are not included in the sales figures. However if a buyer returns the product to the shop and demands a replacement there it may count twice there. just hearsay, i dont have a source.

dbronco, no-one said anything of the sort. The simple fact of the matter is that many who have RRoD buy a new one then sell the fixed unit.

Also, you can cut several millions of the 360 figure because of the high failure rate. How many? We don’t know, since MS refuse to even answer questions on the subject let alone provide data.

“many who have RRoD buy a new one then sell the fixed unit”

What do you think happens to the sold units? Think about it for a second…

I don’t get your point.

My response was to claim that people are acting as if they HAVE to buy a new unit after an RRoD. I was stating that many CHOOSE to buy a new one and sell the fixed unit.

EDIT: Just got the point. If they’re such solid 360 users they wouldn’t be buying a cheap, reconditioned unit off Ebay or a mate down the pub. We’ve all bought things we wouldn’t otherwise consider, just because we saw it going cheap.

Plus, not all RRoDs are fixed. In the early days I bet most were not.

What on earth difference does how “solid” a 360 user they are make to anything? If they’re getting a 360 from game / cex etc used it means they’ll likely never buy one new…

It’s pretty much a zero sum game. I’ve never seen such mental gymnastics to try and prove such a strange point (not you in particular here, just generally). Hell, a better argument could probably be made of the number of people who sold their old model to get a HDMI 360, though it still wouldn’t mean much.

It’s a perfectly reasonable opinion which – like 99% of the things you state with that familiar brand of self-certified authority – is simply a subjective view.

“The simple fact of the matter is that many who have RRoD buy a new one then sell the fixed unit.”

Do you have anything to back that up? Everyone I know (me included) who got RroD just sent it off and got it replaced by MS.

I have bought 3 360s though. A launch one. A Halo one, and then a Jasper. Although I traded the old 360s in with games so the new ones never cost more than 20-30 pounds.

“It’s a perfectly reasonable opinion”

But of course it is. Just like your belief that Sony’s numbers are “sold to consumer” despite all previous evidence to the contrary.