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EA: Fight Night Round 4 might get button-play via DLC

Monday, 29th June 2009 09:53 GMT By Mike

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Looks like this one slipped under the radar: Back on June 12, Fight Night Round 4, producer Brian Hayes told IGN that button-mapping – controversially absent from the initial release – might be offered as downloadable content at some point.

“No, there is no option for face button punching in the final version, but we are investigating providing the option via DLC,” he told the site.

Internet opinion seems to very much in favour of buttons returning to the game as per FNR3, so we’ll see if EA comes up with the goods or not.

Fight Night Round 4 is currently available for PS3 and 360 in a local store near you. We haven’t got our copy yet, sadly, but the demo was good, good, good.

Thanks, Joystiq.

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37 Comments

  1. JonFE

    Providing via (???paid???) DLC control functionality that was present and well on the prequel, is that a first or not? Oh EA, you’re spoiling us :-P

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Shatner

    I think introducing the implication that the DLC might be paid-for is unnecessarily alarmist. It adds weight to your mocking tone of EA but, at this point, is fabrication on your part.

    I don’t play the Fight Night games, but I’d prefer a developer to constantly try to evolve their franchise and try new things with it.

    EA seem to recieve endless flak from critics of their sports titles for ‘lazily’ making yearly updates with ‘no changes’ in them. Yet here’s an example where they’ve gone and made an effort to change something. Maybe it’s good, maybe it’s bad, I don’t know. (I do know, that they’ve also modified their Tiger Woods controls for the latest iteration too). Either way, I think it’s good that they try to bring something new.

    Better yet, they receive feedback en masse that it’s not to people’s preference that they’re willing to respond to it and, via an update/dlc tweak the game’s controls to try and satisfy those that have given feedback. They’re under no obligation to do this at all – in the past it would just be a case of “Well, maybe they’ll fix it in next year’s edition”.

    I think this as an admirable approach – both in changing formulas in a franchise and responding to the feedback of your customers.

    #2 5 years ago
  3. JonFE

    Shatner, in my humble opinion, the thing that actually adds weight to any implications that the DLC *might* be paid-for, is the fact that Brian Hayes refers to it as “DLC” (which, more times than not, is perceived to be paid content), while he could choose to refer to it as “patch” or “update” (which, again more times than not, is perceived to be free).

    I’d also argue that my “unnecessarily alarmist” comment is just a by-product of developers and producers planning and announcing DLC months before their game is even finished and released, which raises the question why this content isn’t included in the final game. Surely there can be plenty valid reasons for that, but one cannot easily eliminate suspicions that greed may have played a part.

    Finally, I’d argue that it would be “fabrication” of my part, had I presented it in any factual way, which I clearly haven’t.

    However, I am not going to argue any of that, because I’m obviously no match for you.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Shatner

    Well, call me crazy, but until someone says “this is going to cost you money” I tend not to accuse them of charging me for something and then building an argument on that assumption.

    And, of course you can’t claim fabrication is fact – not that many don’t try to do exactly that. However, you’re building statements on your fabrication as though it was already fact. You’ve already berated EA for charging you for DLC that hasn’t been made, hasn’t been released and hasn’t had any price attached to it at all.

    Why overlook those facts in favour of your fabrication?

    #4 5 years ago
  5. JonFE

    Shatner:

    Statement? What statement? Where do you see any kind of statement (or accusation for that matter) in my original (the one you called fabrication) comment? It is a question and I think the question mark should have made that clear…

    I only questioned whether providing control functionality (that was well and present in the prequel game) via DLC is a first or not. You may want to read it again to check. Also, the “paid” part is also a question (as we don’t know whether it’s paid or not) and in parentheses (since it is not the main comment); once again not a statement itself.

    Finally, I did not berate EA for charging us for anything; I made a sarcastic comment (and put the relevant smiley to avoid confusion) over the fact that basic control functionality has been stripped from the game and may be added back after listening to feedback. Which (listening to feedback) surely is nice of them, but could have been avoided in the first place had they left it in as an secondary option.

    You read into my comment what you wanted to read and responded to that, so in effect you have done what you’ve accused others of doing. For someone who is admittedly on a crusade for better internet conduct, for reading and understanding someone else’s comments before responding to them, for being accurate, not having agendas and so on, maybe you should start behaving to the standards you expect of others as well.

    But why let the truth get in your way?

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Shatner

    Your tone was mocking and comment was clearly delivered with more sarcasm (by your own admission, no less – which rather damages your insistence that I was seeing something that was never present) than inquisitiveness. You already had a sarcastic response lined up after your own question. Why not wait for the answer? If your question was genuine, why not ask it to the right people (EA) rather than voice it at a place where it’s unlikely to be answered with any authority? Because you’re question is just there for a show of sarcasm, not because you actually appear to have any genuine interest in the answer, that’s why.

    You introduced a fabrication to suit your tone and add weight to your view over the facts that are currently known. I’d remember that before you start harping on about ‘truth’.

    By all means, make a sarcastic clever-sounding comment.
    Just don’t try and make it sound like something more virtuous that it really is.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Patrick Garratt

    Oh my God. Can’t you just talk about the fucking subject instead of launching onto your broken record routine in every single fucking thread you appear in? You’re really pissing me off.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Shatner

    See #2 Patrick.

    And I tire of people leaping on my opinion as much as the next person. I especially tire of them attacking my views and then claiming they’re some sort of victim. Perhaps if people can’t tolerate an alternative view they could find it in them to simply move past it rather than persistently attack the person that expressed it. If you could ask them to allow me to express it without having to constantly justify it then that’d be grand.

    Maybe you can do something about the troll infestation you seem so happy to overlook whilst you’re at it.

    Thanks Pat.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Patrick Garratt

    Here’s a plan: stop being so aggressive, stop coming over like an endlessly sanctimonious tit, stick to the topic, be constructive, add some of your obvious knowledge to the discussion, make the site a more useful, better place and TAKE THE FUCKING HINT.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Syrok

    No one said that it will cost anything (there are a few question marks around JonFe paid).

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Shatner

    Pat,

    I’m not being agressive. I don’t tell people to fuck off. I don’t attempt to order them around or blatantly go trolling because ‘that’s what everyone else is doing’.

    I just don’t lie down and let the mob bully my views into something they find more tolerable. The mob don’t seem to respond well to that so they tend to put an awful lot of their time into attacking someone believing he’ll relent. The mob ain’t too smart.

    There’s been plenty of times I’ve provided insight and information only to have it trolled and dismissed because it doesn’t quite fit into the guesswork people have already invested so much of their time into. You’ll check (I’m sure you check everything before telling people how they’ve behaved) that I give answers on the forum such as the ones querying the type of forum software or the ones about Left 4 Dead pricing.

    The site could be a more useful and better place – I’d prefer it if it was. The rampant trolling goes unchecked and seeing as at least two staff members have indulged in being blatantly antagonistic when it suits them to be, it’s not very surprising that such a poor example becomes the norm. Unfortunately, too many people are interesting in attacking one individual for him to have much time for more constructive input.

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Patrick Garratt

    You are impossible to talk to, Shatner. You cannot talk to you. You instantly attack anyone that comes near you. Either stop it or fuck off. I cannot see you write the same words in a different order day in, day out, any more. Do you understand?

    #12 5 years ago
  13. Shatner

    I’m easy to talk to, assuming you talk as you’d wish to be spoken to. But attacking, insulting, threatening or dictating to me is not talking to me, is it?

    I respond to what other people say. If other people are endlessly attacking me and going out of their way to dismiss any view I happen to express then, logically, you’re going to see much the same sort of responses. If I could be extended the courtesy of allowing my opinion to be expressed without being attacked/trolled/threatened for by countless others who don’t even read the comments they’re attacking – well, that’d be grand. I don’t thnk it’s a particularly unreasonable request to make in spite of the absurd degree of hostility such a simple request seems to coax from people.

    We’d all be much happier. But, believe it or not, I’m not responsible for what other people write. So it’s up to them, not me.

    It’s not like I go around, for example, making unsolicited antagonisitc, baiting forum threads now is it?

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Patrick Garratt

    No one else on this website seems to be hell-bent on turning every single thread they appear on into a train wreck. You do. I’ve had enough of it. You’re not fucking stupid. If you want to carry on being a part of this, helping to actually build something, then please do. If not, just stop it. If you won’t stop it, I’ll close your account. Clear?

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Aimless

    Maybe you two should settle this through a game of Round 4.

    Hopefully you’ll both be using the same control scheme, though, as I’d say that’s the real issue with this news: it’s easier to spam punches with button controls, so if the option is there you’ll get a lot of people playing online using said controls just to have an edge. You know all those Ken players you meet playing Street Fighter? Same principle.

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Shatner

    My intention is not to turn comments into train wrecks Pat. I comment because I wish to express a view. Unfortunately your community (and, on numerous instances, your staff) don’t seem willing to allow that for some reason.

    But you’re right. I’m not fucking stupid. So don’t treat me like an idiot, Pat – if you want to build something constructive then treating people like idiots isn’t the best way to go about it.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Patrick Garratt

    Whatever. Any more “performances” and you’re out.

    #17 5 years ago
  18. Shatner

    If people stop attacking me then I won’t have to justify my views, will I Pat?

    And, your comment about “talking” – you’re not actually doing that. I’m responding to what you’ve said but you’re choosing not to listen and preferring just to dictate as you see fit.

    So Pat, if you try talking to someone maybe you’ll get a response more to your suiting. I’m perfectly civil, so long as people make an effort to be civil also. Again, not a particularly unreasonable view but one that people find themselves very unwilling to try out before blaming the other person for whatever they happen to think of.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. Patrick Garratt

    Enough. I’ve blocked your account.

    #19 5 years ago
  20. Shatner

    :o

    #20 5 years ago
  21. Patrick Garratt

    Clearly not. I’ll delete it instead.

    #21 5 years ago
  22. Shatner

    You go for it tiger!

    Would it help if I logged out first?

    (I’d suggest you backup your database first before deleting records that may be related to mulitple articles. Just in case.)

    #22 5 years ago
  23. absolutezero

    Poor Shatner boo hoo. Why don’t people like my holier than thou opinions being rammed down their throats? Im nice really. ;_; boo hoo.

    #23 5 years ago
  24. absolutezero

    Actually now you’ve started on one Pat can you cull the rest of the idiots that never actually discuss the topic at hand?

    #24 5 years ago
  25. Aimless

    That’s some incisive commentary on the Fight Night situation, absolutezero.

    #25 5 years ago
  26. absolutezero

    Howdy Shat.

    The sweat in Fight Night is very nice and sweaty and button play might get me to actually play it. The choice is whats important, and if its free. No way should anyone have to play for new control style.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. absolutezero

    “If pat was to just go and ban him now I’d buy a cake and deliver it to pat towers myself as gratitude.”

    Hunam owes you cake pat.

    ho ho ho.

    #27 5 years ago
  28. Hunam

    This is what I get for trusting you!

    #28 5 years ago
  29. G1GAHURTZ

    Woah!

    The internet just got better!!

    Pat +1

    btw, in relation to the game… (phew. Finally!)

    …Someone on my friends list put me off this game. He reckons the best thing about it is making new boxers!

    It was quite high on my radar, but I think I’ll put it on my ‘buy it when I’m bored’ list for now.

    #29 5 years ago
  30. JonFE

    Pat, in all seriousness, I cannot believe the turn of these events. If you feel that I stepped over some line here or there, just say so and I’ll respect it. This site is run by your team and I do not wish to outstay my welcome.

    #30 5 years ago
  31. Patrick Garratt

    It wasn’t you, Jon. It’s been a long time coming. You’re very welcome.

    #31 5 years ago
  32. Psychotext

    I don’t think you did anything wrong JonFE. Ironically you just had an opinion and chose to stick to it.

    #32 5 years ago
  33. JonFE

    @Pat:
    Thanks! I like it here.

    @Psychotext:
    I must confess I did see the irony in all of this.

    #33 5 years ago
  34. Retroid

    Blimey!

    “But attacking, insulting, threatening or dictating to me is not talking to me, is it?”

    Christ, he doesn’t have any mirrors, does he?

    I’ve not seem many people on the internet be so needlessly antogonistic, patronising and insulting in the persuit of proving a point. Which is vexxing because he’s obviously got insight at times.

    #34 5 years ago
  35. Blerk

    glol! :-D

    #35 5 years ago
  36. Lutz

    Rolf Harris.

    Sorry, I can’t stay on topic, I don’t like FNRx. :)

    #36 5 years ago
  37. _Sikamikanico_

    Good god. Another thread where Shatner goes all out…but this time he didn’t end up so smarmy! I think I may love you Pat.

    Anywho – ONTOPIC:

    I think it’s great that they’re thinking about adding this functionality into the game. I miss it, as I hate the stick…although I am getting used to it.

    Fingers crossed they follow this one through.

    #37 5 years ago

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