Comments on: Sony on Kotick PS3 drop threat – We respect third-party opinion, but no comment

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:30:36 +0000

MAG sales aren’t going to come close to MW2 sales stvw.

By: stvw74

stvw74 — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:07:57 +0000

Bluff or not, Koticks lifespan just decreased .. I think Sony should say, “Alright Kotick, this is how it works .. Go fk ursel and that A$$ of a company, we’ll go Rock Band for music & Ubi for shooters, no wait .. Byeeee!!”
Ok, they won’t do that but it makes no sense to pander to devs, no matter how big ..
The PS3 is still great value for money and I for one don’t want Sony to be forced into a decision by someone who clearly doesnt own one ..
ActiBliz main concerned is that MAG will be a bigger hit on the PS3 and they want to cover their own slump in sales, understandably. But to publicly air laundry that should be behind closed doors ..
Bye bye Kotick .. it was, er, a mistake to upset soooo many gamers with such a blatently stupid remark that it’s beyond reprehension ..
I honestly don’t own any Activision products, I played thru QoS and was unimpressed, not big on FPS or peripheral based milking, so a big MEH from me ..

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:18:03 +0000

As far as I’m aware, time aligned they’re (Wii, PS3, 360) all within about 2 games of each other. So yeah, it’s all fairly even.

By: NiceFellow

NiceFellow — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:36:37 +0000

^^
Yes, I know. What I meant is he seemed to be implying that PS3 attach rate was suffering, whereas my understanding, from sites such as this one and others, is that after a shaky start the PS3 attach rate has stabilized pretty much in line with 360 (as you state) – i.e. his ‘concerns’ about the PS3 are unfounded based on sales, etc. but sound good in ’rounding out’ his comments.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:14:09 +0000

@NiceFellow: Attach rate doesn’t have anything to do with the price of the console. It’s the number of games sold for each console that they’ve already sold. Price of each game would make a difference… but I think that’s pretty much the same on both of the HD consoles.

By: NiceFellow

NiceFellow — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:51:29 +0000

Activision won’t actually do squat and his base facts are wrong (attach rate on PS3 is improving, its selling more or less same as 360 globally each week at a higher price, yeah, that’s really falling behind)

Sony don’t really need to respond, although I think US did with a polite reminder that plenty of games will be coming to PS3 (i.e. yawn)

He’s only wanting a price cut because he wants more HD consoles out there.

From his point of view a PS3 price cut means higher weekly PS3 sales which means more MW2 sales. Also, a PS3 price cut would probably result in PS3 outselling the 360 WW again, which would likely mean another 360 price cut, which means more 360s selling each week… which means even more PS3/360s out there in total which means lot’s more MW2 sales.

Oh, such transparency! Still, at least his greed is honest, open greed. You know where you are with that.

By: David

David — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:41:14 +0000

how is anyone losing patience with them ?

By: The_Deleted

The_Deleted — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:46:04 +0000

Oh no! A crappy company that everyone is rapidly losing patience with is going to stop supporting a format no one has.

By: sanduixe

sanduixe — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:51:26 +0000

I agree with Patcher, this is all bluff.

By: jnms

jnms — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:27:39 +0000

@Shatner: OMGZ! Sounds like Faux News and the Flying Pig Flu!

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:11:37 +0000

I iz adults!

By: Seraphemz

Seraphemz — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:10:34 +0000

Wow PT…that was….grown up of you.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:01:41 +0000

@TEA: I recalled the figures incorrectly, I’m happy to admit I made a mistake.

/not perfect

By: Shatner

Shatner — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:01:21 +0000

“..fully in the grips of internet hysteria ..”

And we all know who prolongs and profits most from a good bit of internet hysteria.

Soon, everything will be delivered as though it’s a ‘megaton’ even when it’s not.

By: TheTwelve

TheTwelve — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:58:06 +0000

Haha, Evil, it’s just one fake, faceless internet name talking to another on some corner of cyberspace. If all of my talking on forums actually meant something, I’d be a billionaire.

By: theevilaires

theevilaires — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:51:47 +0000

The12 is really making a name for himself by going up against psycho. I think its time for you to retire psycho, what are you 33, 36 the most in real life

By: Rhythm

Rhythm — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:50:59 +0000

Good link, PT. How the hell either MS or Sony are still going I have no idea

By: theevilaires

theevilaires — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:49:00 +0000

you said both ps1 and ps2 profits. i guess you chose to bark loud and The12 challenged your bite.

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By: TheTwelve

TheTwelve — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:46:57 +0000

The recession didn’t just begin in 2009, Psych. It’s been a trend that has finally led to this point over the past few years. Sony is just one of many companies, including Microsoft, that has experienced loss in one way or another.

Sony is indeed just as “fine” as anybody else during these times.

Is Sony happy? heeeeeck no.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:43:46 +0000

“Its doing fine”

…and again, when you’re losing $500m to $1bn a year, you’re really not doing fine in any sense of the word. Those sort of losses would cripple most companies, it’s only because Sony (and Microsoft before it) are so big that they’re able to survive it.

You can see all the numbers here if you’re interested:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15845813&postcount=766

Oh, and for what it’s worth… I don’t think that a major price cut would kill Sony. It would just kill any hope of profits for the next year or so.

By: TheTwelve

TheTwelve — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:42:59 +0000

Thank you for the link—seriously—but it’s what I thought, somebody making an official guess about what’s going on, while not truly knowing the real numbers.

Heck, I’m an “industry veteran” too. WTH does that mean.

Only a fool would say that Sony hasn’t lost money on the PS3 thus far but only a Sony h8er fully in the grips of internet hysteria would go so far as to say that Sony has gained nothing this gen and a pricecut would ruin them.

Anybody who truly thinks that Sony is getting caught with their pants down this gen should give props to the immense first party investment Sony must have started at least half a decade ago, predicting the demise of third-party exclusives.

Neither Microsft or Sony are going anywhere as of now, and the only reason why Nintendo hasn’t been squeezed out is because the Wii has turned out to be a fluke phenomenon.

Activision’s quote is just one of many similar words flung about in many industries outside of gaming. This really isn’t an issue of losing money so much as it’s an issue of rich people wanting to get richer.

By: Seraphemz

Seraphemz — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:41:55 +0000

So I was right…filed under ‘speculation’

Remember folks Sony has 3 consoles on the market. Its doing fine.

But, a price drop would be better.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:29:31 +0000

It was actually the PS2 profits: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169439

They’re about $1.3bn off losing all the profits made since the gaming division was created (Basically everything they made after 1999 they’ve since lost). That would probably take another two years at current rates.

By: DaMan

DaMan — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:28:19 +0000

I do remember David Perry last year saying Sony lost more on PS3 than it gained with PS2.

By: Seraphemz

Seraphemz — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:21:28 +0000

That info is filed under ‘speculation’….

By: Redh3lix

Redh3lix — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:15:46 +0000

I’d like to see a source of that info aswell lol

By: TheTwelve

TheTwelve — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:34:50 +0000

Oh, ok. So you believe that a “massive” pricecut would bring Sony down in flames, the PS3 will be cancelled in a year, and the Wii and 360 shall reign supreme.

Ok, but I find that beyond unlikely.

I would love to read something that says that Sony has lost all of the PS1/PS2 profit in the last three years. It may very well be true—I’ve just never come across this bit of information.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:29:39 +0000

“I don’t know why people think that Sony is a struggling organization where a PS3 pricecut would cripple the entire gaming division.”

It might have something to do with losing all the profits made from the PS1 / PS2 in the last 3 years. A massive price cut would likely continue that trend, in the short term at least.

By: TheTwelve

TheTwelve — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:23:21 +0000

Definition of hater as I meant it:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hater

By: No_PUDding

No_PUDding — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:23:09 +0000

You know what a church is right?

You despise Sony, and told me yourself.