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Acti boss – “We might have to stop supporting Sony” next year [Update]

Friday, 19th June 2009 13:03 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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Megaton. Acti Blizz head Bobby Kotick’s said he may stop supporting Sony with software unless it drops PS3′s price.

“They have to cut the price, because if they don’t, the attach rates [the number of games each console owner buys] are likely to slow. If we are being realistic, we might have to stop supporting Sony,” he said.

Asked when Sony titles may be pulled, Kotick added: “When we look at 2010 and 2011, we might want to consider if we support the console — and the PSP [portable] too.”

Wow.

“Games generate a better return on invested capital on the Xbox than on the PlayStation,” he said.

Kotick added that Acti Blizz paid $500 million to Sony in royalties and other goods last year, which “probably still worked out at 400 percent of the profit they made”.

DEF. CON. 1. Lock the mountain.

Update: Just spoke to SCEE PR. A statement’s being prepared, we were told, and it “shouldn’t be too much longer”.

Update 2: Kotick’s “bluffing,” says Pachter.

Update 3: The Sony statement’s in.

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137 Comments

  1. Mike

    Oh dear.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Patrick Garratt

    :o

    #2 5 years ago
  3. Lutz

    Batten down the hatches boys and girls, there’s gonnabe shit flung in all directions from this one.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Monk

    OMG.
    something Huuuuuge !!

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Redh3lix

    :O

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Psychotext

    Horseshit. This is just to try and pressure Sony into making a large price cut on the PS3.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Mike

    Really, psycho? I’d've never worked that out for myself. :P

    #7 5 years ago
  8. slayernl

    wow, that wuold be going the dreamcast way……
    BIG news !!???!?!?!

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Anders

    Make it happen, Sony! Please!

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Hero of Canton

    This gen’s GameCube confirmed.

    But yeah, Kotick’s just trying to force Sony’s hand, or renegotiate terms which suit Acti better.

    #10 5 years ago
  11. desiredtime

    Sony have no chose now but to drop the price. lol

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Shatner

    So, a fortnight ago they want to sue Double-Fine after ditching them. Now they want to lay some threats down in another direction. Is Bobby going to sue Sony after he ditches them too?

    I guess anyone Bobby hasn’t put a ring on had better get in touch with their lawyers.

    A PS3 price cut is inevitable. But, when it comes, I’d hate to see Activision try and take the credit for it. In addition to that, if Sony allow anyone to get the impression that one publisher’s threats make a difference to them, lots of other publishers will all try the same stunt.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. No_PUDding

    Have fun developing those exclusives then Bob.

    Ofcourse I would be pissed off, but I think the attach rate things, and such are all bullshit.

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Eregol

    Activision have had their heads up their asses since the Acti-Blizz merger.

    The sooner they stop believing their own hype and get their shit together the better.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Blerk

    What a completely ridiculous thing to say. I bet Sony are TOTALLY quaking in their boots.

    Die, Activision! DIE!

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Mike

    It’s not that Activision is going to do it or not that’s interesting, imo – it’s the fact these he’s publicly come out and said it.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Eregol

    If it happens after Brutal Legend comes out then there’s nothing to worry about.

    Oh noes! We’ll lose RIDE and Guitar Hero.
    Big. Deal.

    #17 5 years ago
  18. Blerk

    Activision clearly believe themselves to be the most important company in the industry at the minute and equally think this gives them the right to say what they like and throw their weight around as they see fit. The big headed wankers.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. No_PUDding

    Really Blerk?

    xD

    I think plenty of other companies said it, so no, it’s not really a surprise.

    #19 5 years ago
  20. dirigiblebill

    Does anyone know if Acti-Blizzard have actually lost money on their PS3 projects?

    #20 5 years ago
  21. Bringit

    Not just RIDE and Guitar Hero Eregol.

    Modern Warfare. James Bond. Blur!

    Losing Activision Blizzard would kill PS3. Dead

    #21 5 years ago
  22. Lutz

    And, erm… a little game knows as Call of Duty?

    As annoying as Acti are, they’ve got 2 *major* games that both 360 and PS3 would do very well to keep…

    #22 5 years ago
  23. Blerk

    Plenty of other companies said they wanted a price cut, Pud. None of the others threatened to pull support if they didn’t get one, though.

    #23 5 years ago
  24. Psychotext

    Those royalty revenues are insane. How the hell isn’t Sony’s gaming division managing to break even when they’re pulling in money like that?

    #24 5 years ago
  25. Quiiick

    Stop buying Acti Blizz games! NOW !!!

    #25 5 years ago
  26. Mike

    CoD5 was last year’s best seller, CoD: MW1 is still a full price game, and I’m sure CoD: MW2 will eclipse both of those in terms of sales.

    Guitar Hero has also sold millions, not just in terms of boxed product but through DLC.

    It’ll be a massive loss to any company if Acti pulled out.

    But still, Acti’s not going to do it.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. Blerk

    I’d have to start buying ActiBlizz games before I could stop buying them, Quiick.

    #27 5 years ago
  28. Lutz

    Bear in mind that Guitar Hero 3 is apparently the first game ever to make $1billion in total sales.

    That is *NOT* a franchise you care to lose.

    (Not that they will as per Mikes posts, but still)

    #28 5 years ago
  29. Robo_1

    Sony are obviously planning a PS3 price cut regardless, but making such threats public will do much to generate bad blood between the two companies.

    I don’t believe for a second that Activision would piss away a 20 million plus user base on next gen titles. The majority of the cost for developing these games is the art assets, and they’ve already got their PS3 tech in order, so this is clearly just sabre rattling, and Kotick’s being a complete cock saying such things in public.

    #29 5 years ago
  30. No_PUDding

    Psycho, isn’t the gaming division, the only division of Sony that was in the black?

    #30 5 years ago
  31. Gadzooks!

    > Losing Activision Blizzard would kill PS3. Dead

    /knees
    /hands

    O Sony, in thy divine arrogance,
    I beseach thee to firmly stand your ground on pricing,
    As the aforementioned losing,
    And subsequent demise,
    Of the overpriced albatross,
    Wouldst, in the hearts of men,
    Deliver a chuckle most uplifting.

    Amen.

    #31 5 years ago
  32. Psychotext

    @Pud: No, or at least not for a long while anyway. The gaming division has lost ~$3.6bn in the last 3 years.

    #32 5 years ago
  33. OrphanageExplosion

    This is the amazing bit:

    Kotick added that Acti Blizz paid $500 million to Sony in royalties and other goods last year, which “probably still worked out at 400 percent of the profit they made”.

    Is Activision really losing money on supporting PS3? If so, then why should they support it exactly?

    #33 5 years ago
  34. Lutz

    $3.6bn what? (ah, makes sense after that edit PT :) )

    #34 5 years ago
  35. gorman

    I always wonder how long will it take for fans to acknowledge the simple fact that Sony screwed up big time with too many aspects of their PS3 strategy.

    Every time there’s this “conspiracy theory” halo surrounding the discussions…

    Games are tougher to develop and end up worse? Lazy programmers.

    Console is too expensive, lacks installed base, fails to generate enough revenues for publishers? That’s their own problems, arrogant SOBs.

    Theoretical killer apps fail badly at meeting overblown expectations? People don’t understand good games.

    It could be funny, were it not for the fact that it is quite boring instead.

    #35 5 years ago
  36. No_PUDding

    Maybe in the last 3 years, but I swear the last few quarters they’ve been black?

    #36 5 years ago
  37. Psychotext

    @Lutz: Yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to miss that rather important word. :D

    #37 5 years ago
  38. crippledhooba

    Lol this will probably work as well. Although I doubt Sony are gonna like this.

    #38 5 years ago
  39. Psychotext

    Pud:

    Y/E 2009 Q1: $51,113,208
    Y/E 2009 Q2: -$379,471,154
    Y/E 2009 Q3: $4,395,604
    Y/E 2009 Q4: -$253,244,898

    Y/E 2009: -$577,207,240

    #39 5 years ago
  40. Lutz

    PT: How come the figures swing so much? And how do you make a loss in Q4? Something like 70% of all game sales occur in Q4. To go from a $5m profit to a $253m loss is unreal.

    #40 5 years ago
  41. No_PUDding

    Q4 2009?

    How?

    Is that 2008, right?

    #41 5 years ago
  42. Psychotext

    @Lutz: Q4 financial, not calendar. (Sony’s Q3 financial is their Q4 calendar). The figures above are year ending 2009 (So April 2008 to March 2009).

    The rest are for reasons due to time of year, price cuts, model releases etc.

    #42 5 years ago
  43. Mike

    “This is the amazing bit:

    Kotick added that Acti Blizz paid $500 million to Sony in royalties and other goods last year, which “probably still worked out at 400 percent of the profit they made”.

    Is Activision really losing money on supporting PS3? If so, then why should they support it exactly?”

    Indeed.

    #43 5 years ago
  44. deftangel

    The way this lot are going they’re going to make old EA look like a friendly charity shop. Something needs to take their top execs down a peg or two.

    Their Guitar Hero money printing machine must cost sweet FA to develop each new interation and makes a ton of money across all Sony platforms.

    How long is it before they start binning franchises they can’t bi-annualise?!

    #44 5 years ago
  45. Quiiick

    @ Blerk
    “I’d have to start buying ActiBlizz games before I could stop buying them, Quiiick.”

    I thought I was the only one around here who has never, ever bought an Activision/Bizzard/ActiBlizz game.

    #45 5 years ago
  46. Blerk

    @deftangel: They already did that, didn’t they?

    #46 5 years ago
  47. Lutz

    Mike: Acti aren’t losing money; they’re just paying out more loyalties than they’re making in profit.

    Ignoring tax, if sales directly made thanks to Sony are $1billion, and cost of sales/overheads are $375m (For them $1b sales), and they pay $500m to Sony, Acti are left with $125m profit from the Sony sales.

    So from Activisions Sony Sales, Sony are making 4x the profit of Acti. For doing fuck all.

    #47 5 years ago
  48. Lutz

    I’m scratching my head here, but the only Acti game I can recall buying (2nd hand mind) is Spider-Man Web of Shadows.

    #48 5 years ago
  49. Lutz

    Obviously the likes of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all need royalties to subsidise the cost of the hardware, but from the face of it, that does seem high. I’d love to know how much Acti paid Ninty and MS, and what the ratio fo sales across the platforms were.

    #49 5 years ago
  50. Redh3lix

    COD series Lutz? (excluding Treyarch)

    #50 5 years ago
  51. Lutz

    Redh3lix: What about it?

    #51 5 years ago
  52. No_PUDding

    I haven’t bought an ActivisionBlizzard game this generation.

    I hve played CoD4 though, and I wanted to buy it (for SP).

    #52 5 years ago
  53. Redh3lix

    Sorry Lutz, you stated you only ever purchased Spider man… do you not own a Call of Duty game? (!)

    #53 5 years ago
  54. G1GAHURTZ

    Uh oh…

    What did I miss..?

    #54 5 years ago
  55. Shatner

    And yet other third party publishers such as the appropriately comparable EA have claimed to do well on the PS3 for some time now.

    But then, Activision don’t have any internal studios or shared resources. The pay through the nose for all the talent they’ve bought up rather than investing in internal development. They don’t have as many evergreen sellers as EA and they certainly don’t take the same approach to original IP and development as EA do (as evidenced in the Double-Fine thing).

    So, it’s clear that companies work differently and get different results. If the results are less than ideal, most companies look to themselves to make a change, including Sony.

    Making threats and expecting the world to revolve around you is only going to get you so far.

    #55 5 years ago
  56. Blerk

    Anyway, saying something like this doesn’t seem to be a good idea for maintaining good public relations with Sony. Even if ultimately they don’t stop supporting the platforms and Sony do/don’t drop the price, he must’ve known that this would be absolutely pounced upon by the gaming sites and fanboy-argued to destruction for days.

    All of which generates seriously bad press for Sony regardless of how likely any of it is to happen. Which makes Sony pissed. Which makes Sony less likely to actually do anything to help Activision out in the future.

    #56 5 years ago
  57. Lutz

    Redh3lix: No, I don’t own a Call of Duty game. How dare you insult me. ;)

    (Or Guitar Hero. Neither are my thing)

    #57 5 years ago
  58. No_PUDding

    Blerk, the only thing to properly damage relationships aren’t bad press. Not thinkign long term anyway.

    They won’t remember this next-generation. And more to the point, there’s not much Sony can do to spite Activision.

    #58 5 years ago
  59. Mike

    “All of which generates seriously bad press for Sony regardless of how likely any of it is to happen. Which makes Sony pissed. Which makes Sony less likely to actually do anything to help Activision out in the future.”

    But it seems Activision is giving fuckloads of dosh for what appears to be a relatively small return compared with other consoles. So surely Sony has to play ball no matter what?

    #59 5 years ago
  60. Redh3lix

    Ow… my head. Regained consciousness after Lutz’s comment.

    #60 5 years ago
  61. Lutz

    Mike: Do you have any comparrison figures?

    #61 5 years ago
  62. No_PUDding

    Conversely, Mike, clearly Activision would ahve stopped supporting PS3 a long time ago, if it wasn’t actually useful for them.

    There’s over 20 million sales.

    He’s just worried, if the platform isn’t relevant, that they won’t be able to sell as much.

    It’s not like the install bases are shrinking.

    #62 5 years ago
  63. Mike

    No Lutz, I don’t. Just look at the NPD software sales for the last 18 months though.

    #63 5 years ago
  64. Mike

    @PuD: Yeah, that’s also true.

    #64 5 years ago
  65. Shatner

    Sony doesn’t have to play ball at all and would suffer considerable damage to be seen bullied by a publisher – particularly a publisher who, by their own admission, isn’t doing that much to represent the platform. First Activision then who? EA? Ubi? Take 2? No. It’s not a sensible option to open the floodgates to other manipulative attempts.

    Sony might prefer to rely on Singstar and its better margins (to Sony) than Guitar Hero. They may court EA and keep Rock Band options open. I’d be far more concerned about losing family-friendly, evergreen, huge sellers like Madden, Tiger Woods and FIFA than the rated-18 stuff like COD if I was forced to weigh up options.

    And all third parties pay royalties and costs to all platform manufacturers. Sony is not the most expensive out there, they’re simply the only one quoted in the example. The licensing and royalty system has been a part of the console industry since the 8-bit days. The more succesful you are, the more royalties you pay over – but it’ll still be the same per-unit price as other third parties (unless you have negotiated some special deal with the platform holder).

    #65 5 years ago
  66. No_PUDding

    The NPD’s where both HD platforms have been floundering, outside of price cuts/holidays?

    #66 5 years ago
  67. Blerk

    I’m sure there’s plenty that Sony can do to be ‘unhelpful’ to Activision without actually cutting them off, Mike.

    #67 5 years ago
  68. Patrick Garratt

    Just updated it. Sony’s preparing a statement.

    #68 5 years ago
  69. Razor

    This is the time for Sony to get the system selling GT5 out, goddammit.

    Anything to get GT5 out…

    #69 5 years ago
  70. Psychotext

    In fairness Mike, NPD covers just one country… so it might not be the best way to measure.

    You can look at the financial reports for the publishers (which usually provide breakdowns), but even with that you need to be careful. It’s easy to look at a particular quarter and think you see one result… but because of some accounting practices (deferred earnings / GAAP) it’s actually possible to have earnings for individual games showing up in completely different quarters even when they were released simultaneously. Looking over a full year isn’t a bad indication, but still not perfect.

    #70 5 years ago
  71. Lutz

    /rubs hand together.
    This should be fun.

    Popcorn anyone? Someone grab some deckchairs too.

    #71 5 years ago
  72. No_PUDding

    COOOOL PR WARZ!

    #72 5 years ago
  73. Mike

    @Psycho: Fair enough.

    #73 5 years ago
  74. Razor

    Let the statement be Hirai going off on one…

    #74 5 years ago
  75. Psychotext

    It’ll be the usual shite. “We understand that publishers would like more playstation systems out there but blah blah blah blah”.

    (yes, I copied and pasted that… damn having the same conversation in two places!)

    Though it would be the story of the decade if Sony came out and said “We’ll live without you, don’t let the door hit you on the way out”. It’s what oldskool evil Nintendo would have done. :D

    #75 5 years ago
  76. Lutz

    Let the statement be Sony telling Acti to fuck off, and both companies going down the swanny.

    #76 5 years ago
  77. Shatner

    Now, if Bobby were to quickly open up his purse and buy Konami and Squaresoft…

    #77 5 years ago
  78. No_PUDding

    Damn, I would love to read that, even if it meant not having… Well there’s no Activision titles I want, but they’re important.

    Even better if they called Acti’s bluff and they just continued support xD

    #78 5 years ago
  79. Blerk

    I can’t imagine what sort of a statement they could be preparing. I’m hoping it’s a “yeah, well fuck you Activision – you’re shit anyway!” statement. :-D

    #79 5 years ago
  80. G1GAHURTZ

    Sony statement preview:

    The PS3 already offers great value… blah, blah, blah… best sales in years… blah, blah, blah… highest attach rate… blah, blah, blah… 10 year plan blah, blah, blah…

    #80 5 years ago
  81. Lutz

    Shatner: Now THAT would be awesome.

    #81 5 years ago
  82. Blerk

    No it wouldn’t. Final Fantasy and MGS as yearly franchise updates? No thanks.

    #82 5 years ago
  83. Eregol

    @Blerk
    Well, come on. It certainly wouldn’t make a difference to the script quality would it?

    #83 5 years ago
  84. Morrius

    @G1GAHURTZ Yup

    #84 5 years ago
  85. Lutz

    Blerk: Um, both are raped to death anyway!

    #85 5 years ago
  86. Psychotext

    What a pretty turn of phrase Lutz… 8O

    #86 5 years ago
  87. Zarckan

    Kotich? more like Kockitch

    #87 5 years ago
  88. Lutz

    There was probably room for a “yo momma” in there too.

    #88 5 years ago
  89. theevilaires

    go ahead and your profits will drop too. you dare challenge sony fool

    #89 5 years ago
  90. Robo_1

    I’m genuinely surprised that Sony are responding to this so quickly and so formally.

    The thing about the console business is that it’s swings and roundabouts. Sony are unquestionably in a weakened position this gen, but then next gen? Weakened or not, Sony are still a massive company, with fingers in many pies. If I were a third party publisher, I don’t think I’d be so quick to burn my bridges.

    #90 5 years ago
  91. Blerk

    Had a bit of a bad week, Mr Sony, hasn’t he?

    #91 5 years ago
  92. G1GAHURTZ

    I was thinking something similar Robo_1, but I was thinking that the power of the internet and modern day blogging has really been on show recently.

    First, MS go out of their way to deny any new type of 360, then Sony are all over Kotick’s comments in almost an instant.

    Seems like the big boys have decided to get much more hands-on with the blogosphere…

    #92 5 years ago
  93. anasui

    Good lord. I’m just gonna get out dressed like a true toff and introducing myself as “Lord Good of Sony”

    /rimshot

    #93 5 years ago
  94. No_PUDding

    Okay, call me a fanboy, but what’s wrong with Sony’s week?

    Isn’t this the only thing?

    #94 5 years ago
  95. Blerk

    Well, I sort of hate to mention it again but there was that little Ghostbusters incident.

    #95 5 years ago
  96. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, but that was more the developer not doing a good job rather than Sony messing up.

    #96 5 years ago
  97. anasui

    also, Valve trash talking the PS3 as usual, Ubi ditching SC PS3

    #97 5 years ago
  98. joshua nash

    this just proves to me two things

    1) kotick is crazy thinking that his threats will get sony to price cut the PS3

    2) kotick is seriously becoming an even bigger asshole than jack thompson, which i didn’t think was possible

    #98 5 years ago
  99. No_PUDding

    Well, I onyl ask, becuase I read it on neoGAF too, with the Splinter Cell won’t be on PS3 thing… And I just wondered how that was bad at all.

    Especially since all the statement did was make it more questionable.

    #99 5 years ago
  100. Blerk

    Yeah, it wasn’t directly Sony’s fault about Ghostbusters, but it still generated bad press for them.

    And Ubi didn’t ditch Splinter Cell PS3, it was never on PS3 to begin with. They’ve touted it as a 360 exclusive (PC aside) since it was announced.

    #100 5 years ago
  101. ecu

    Hollow threat, they’ll never go through with it.

    #101 5 years ago
  102. No_PUDding

    Blerk, I get it completely. (now)

    That’s why I was asking you.

    #102 5 years ago
  103. Razor

    What does “lock the mountain” mean?

    #103 5 years ago
  104. Blerk

    Lock the mountain!

    #104 5 years ago
  105. Redh3lix

    @ Razor

    In the case of NORAD located within the Cheyenne Mountain and many films featuring defence systems based in mountainous terrain etc.

    #105 5 years ago
  106. Blerk

    That’s where they’ve got the Stargate, too.

    #106 5 years ago
  107. Razor

    Ahhh, cheers guys. I get it now. \o/

    #107 5 years ago
  108. Patrick Garratt

    Just spoken to Michael Pachter. Top of site.

    #108 5 years ago
  109. Yoshi

    He deserves to go eat a bag of dicks after sayin that :D CONGRATS TO HIM

    #109 5 years ago
  110. MushroomStamp

    Oh how the mighty have fallen. Sony used to be the best. Now it seems Microsoft has done to Sony, what Sony did to nintendo/sega. Just completely stolen the gaming industry with better games and consoles that hit the price point, along with a better controller than Sony’s tiny handed crampfest.

    #110 5 years ago
  111. XDamage

    It’s just drama though…

    #111 5 years ago
  112. Michael O'Connor

    Man, so many fanboys in denial, it seems.

    “Hollow threat, they’ll never go through with it.”

    Attach rates mean everything to a company. The Xbox 360 has an extremely high attach rate, around 7 games for every owner of the console, last time I checked.

    Another facts: Multi-format titles always sell better on the 360, usually by a significant fashion.

    If the cost of PS3 development ends up being less than the profit they’re making from the games on the format, then yes, they *are* going to pull out, and it wouldn’t really surprise me considering the recession.

    Of course, it would be sad to see this happen, because the PS3 deserves the support, but the reality of business is rarely a pretty one.

    #112 5 years ago
  113. Shatner

    Ruh-roh!

    O’Connor’s calling people fanboys and quoting “facts” and talking about software development in a “been there, done that” tone.

    All we need is an accusation concerning foil-hats and we’ll have the full set!

    #113 5 years ago
  114. Seraphemz

    …can’t remember last Activision game I picked up.

    Guitar Heroes gone to shit. WOWs on PC…

    Hmmm…. Why would Sony be scared again?

    #114 5 years ago
  115. Mike

    Call of Duty. It sells quite a bit. As does Guitar Hero.

    #115 5 years ago
  116. Seraphemz

    Youlre right…call of duty is huge. Guitar Hero does sell…

    Either way..that guy was talking out of his ass.

    #116 5 years ago
  117. Mike

    He was, yeah.

    But the fact it’s the first time a third party has publicly threatened to stop making games for MS, Sony or Ninty since Square and the N64 12 years ago (that’s imo, btw. I’m happy to be proved wrong), I’d still say it’s a pretty big deal and not a very positive sign.

    #117 5 years ago
  118. Withnail

    It’s an idle threat. It means fuck all.

    #118 5 years ago
  119. Michael O'Connor

    “It’s an idle threat. It means fuck all.”

    Figures would argue otherwise. *WHY* would they make “idle threats”? What the hell would that achieve?

    #119 5 years ago
  120. Mike

    If it was commonplace for idle threats to be publically made by third party development houses to console manufacturers, I’d say it meant nothing. It means something. Maybe not that Acti-Blizz is ‘really’ going to stop development, but it definitely means something, imo.

    #120 5 years ago
  121. Withnail

    What does it mean then? The PS3 is expensive? No shit. Even Sony will tell you that.

    If Activision could have their way PS3s would be given away for free. The fact is they’re making money from it, and unless the PS3 userbase is actually getting smaller (hint: it isn’t) they’ll continue to do so no matter what Sony does with the price.

    #121 5 years ago
  122. Shatner

    If Bobby had meant the threat he’d just sue. That’s what Bobby does. He fucks you over on your contract, then tries to sue you to get his money back.

    Too many ‘tin foil hat, fanboy experts’ jerking off to wish fulfilment. I laid out the franchises that matter and Activision don’t have a monopoly on them. It’s also worth remember that Activision got to be #1 fat-cat publisher thanks to their acquisition of a bunch of folk that make a very succesful PC game called World of Warcraft.

    Or, you know, you can ignore all of that, ignore all the people who are actually making money from PS3 (like EA, for example) and leap to Bobby’s call because.. ..well, it’s obvious. But if I said it I’d sound like O’Connor wouldn’t I? :D

    #122 5 years ago
  123. Hunam

    I’d really like to know what the plan with the PS3 is. Bought my first multiplatform game on it over the 360 (Overlord) and it’s plagued by a terrible framerate compared to the 360 version, you could cry that its the developer not doing a good enough job (as we saw the blame being point in the ghostbusters comments) but then it got me thinking, isn’t this the excuse always pulled up in this situation. Clearly they can’t all be shit yet the 360 version is usually the better buy.

    I’d probably wager that if MGS4 was multi platform I’d not own a PS3 at all, which would be a shame as I’d have not discovered Ratchet and Clank or Valkyria Chronicles. It is in a strange situation though, being the most expensive and having the most troubles in terms of multi platform performance issues.

    I’d love a cheap slim model mind.

    #123 5 years ago
  124. Seraphemz

    Didn’t UBI say the PS3 has better attach ratio as well?

    Don’t get me wrong…I want a price cut too. So the PS3 can kick the shit out the 360 and shut all you micro-droids up.

    #124 5 years ago
  125. Hunam

    I’m pretty sure the 360 has always had the highest attach rates, though if Ubi were talking about just their games it might be different.

    #125 5 years ago
  126. dert

    Activision is definitely on the right track here. Microsoft has been consistently dropping their price on the Xbox 360 platform the point where it’s pretty much affordable in the third world. I’m not seeing that from the Wii folks yet but it’s coming as 90% of the sales now are on peripherals like Wii Fit. If the want the consoles to move again over the holidays, they’ll drop the price and I know they will because they’re invested in it. Sales on the PS3 are more than flat and by this Christmas, without a SIGNIFICANT price drop, they may likely find themselves in a position where they’ll have to drop the platform entirely due to lack of financial viability. I bought the 60GB non-backwards piece of shit this past Xmas and it was the worst mistake of my life, and a VERY expensive one at that. I could have gotten Xbox consoles for upstairs AND downstairs for what I paid. S-T-U-P-I-D. If I were Activision and Sony refused to play ball, I’d leave and never look back. Sony’s a losing propositioin for them now! Why stay with them? When Activition does back out (I predict they will), I WILL be getting a full refund from Sony for the console. If a few thousand other folks follow suit, Sony’s bottom line is going to get very sore, very quickly and they have no one to blame but themselves. DROP THE PRICE!!! It’s win/win for everyone.

    #126 5 years ago
  127. theevilaires

    i like how xbox 360 first party titles were $50 at launch then M$ once again fucks the people and raises the price $10 more when the ps3 was coming out LMAO M$ sheep hahahahahahaha

    #127 5 years ago
  128. theevilaires

    you know why they can drop the price so much…because the machine is made out of shit. all the parts are low quality electronics that they’ve been over charging since launch.

    Hello RROD, drop price to fight bad publicity.

    #128 5 years ago
  129. Hunam

    dert, I thought *all* 60bg’s were backwards compatible?

    #129 5 years ago
  130. Seraphemz

    Dert – you are a dummy. You think that paying for a machine that DOESN’t break down was a bad decision and you should have got 2 with a 30% failure rate and that would have been smart? Wow.

    Don’t complain about ‘backward’ compatibility or lack of. I bet you were one of the people that bitched about the original price.

    Ever heard of you get what you pay for?

    Original 80 gig for me..best money I ever spent.

    #130 5 years ago
  131. Hunam

    I dunno, my PS3 broke after 4 months where my 360 lasted 2 and a half years.

    #131 5 years ago
  132. Seraphemz

    Sure it did.

    #132 5 years ago
  133. Hunam

    Loading the first act of MGS4 no less, as a slap in the face.

    Much to Sonys credit though, it went down on the Thursday, had a replacement at the door on Monday, where I had to wait a month for my 360.

    Doesn’t help your cause much when you are so blinkered you can’t even believe people saying a single bad thing about the PS3. 360 had the RROD, PS3 had the disc read error, not in the same quantity or notoriety, but it’s still a problem with some of the earlier builds.

    #133 5 years ago
  134. Seraphemz

    I’m not saying ps3 is perfect.

    Hate f’n game installs.

    But when you compare 360 to PS3 and say the PS3 is worse..then ur dumb blind or both.

    #134 5 years ago
  135. Hunam

    Yeah, I guess.

    #135 5 years ago
  136. Michael O'Connor

    “Sure it did.”

    Actually, I’ve had a similar problem. My PS3 stopped reading the hard-drive about four months after I bought it (the harddrive worked, it just couldn’t read it), and it died a week later, and had to be replaced. My 360 hasn’t hiccuped once.

    Not saying the 360 failure rate problem doesn’t exist, but the newer models are much more reliable. I don’t personally know anyone with the newer models who has ever red-ringed.

    #136 5 years ago
  137. tatsujin

    I want him to stop supporting the PS3 and the PSP, then the profit revenue will start talking.

    The real question is:- Aren’t they making profit from the PS3 and the PSP?! …

    On the other hand, Sony needs to drop that god damn price man. I need a 2nd PS3 and it has to be this year.

    #137 5 years ago

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