Comments on: Pachter says Sony is “ripping off the consumer” with PSP Go price http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:20:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Rodiard http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80270 Rodiard Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:47:56 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80270 PSP Go is a PSP Gouge. PSP Go is a PSP Gouge.

]]> By: deftangel http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80138 deftangel Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:12:46 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80138 The only reason Sony are still subsidising the PS3 is because they launched with a overly expensive console and grossly over-estimated the market's ability to support it. Launching the console at a loss is part of the traditional razor/razor blade model of the console market with the idea to hit profitability as quickly as possible. The PSP-Go is a relaunch of an existing console that's over 4 years old. They wouldn't have launched the slim PS2 at a loss and if they have to with the PS3 slim that's purely down to the cirmcumstances above. Like Blerk says, they really need to get people to purchase software digitally for this thing on a level like Xbox Live Arcade for it to be successful. The consumers who pick up the new PSP are their best shot at that as re-educating the existing consumers ain't gonna be easy. Even if they were making a small loss at $199 they'd have been better off going with that I think. The only reason Sony are still subsidising the PS3 is because they launched with a overly expensive console and grossly over-estimated the market’s ability to support it. Launching the console at a loss is part of the traditional razor/razor blade model of the console market with the idea to hit profitability as quickly as possible.

The PSP-Go is a relaunch of an existing console that’s over 4 years old. They wouldn’t have launched the slim PS2 at a loss and if they have to with the PS3 slim that’s purely down to the cirmcumstances above.

Like Blerk says, they really need to get people to purchase software digitally for this thing on a level like Xbox Live Arcade for it to be successful. The consumers who pick up the new PSP are their best shot at that as re-educating the existing consumers ain’t gonna be easy. Even if they were making a small loss at $199 they’d have been better off going with that I think.

]]> By: Morrius http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80131 Morrius Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:40:16 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80131 Sonylol. True story, the guy in my local indie calls his supplier at Sony every day to tell him to lower their prices. He's persistent and somewhat mental. Sonylol. True story, the guy in my local indie calls his supplier at Sony every day to tell him to lower their prices. He’s persistent and somewhat mental.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80123 Blerk Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:32:02 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80123 I thought they were trying to reignite interest in the platform, though? They just spent the last 6 months getting all the developers back on board so they can relaunch the platform and save it from obscurity and then they completely overprice the new hardware? How long before those re-convinced developers give up again? I thought they were trying to reignite interest in the platform, though? They just spent the last 6 months getting all the developers back on board so they can relaunch the platform and save it from obscurity and then they completely overprice the new hardware? How long before those re-convinced developers give up again?

]]> By: JonFE http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80122 JonFE Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:31:24 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80122 Well, Nintendo offers the DSi at a higher price point than the DS without glaring expensive differences, so why can't Sony do likewise? Actually I'm more interested to know how Sony plans to lure existing PSP owners with a games collection on UMD into upgrading. Finally Pachter's point about piracy may not hold much water, as hackers seem pretty interested in the PSP so far with custom firmwares coming on a regular basis and perhaps they will put on a similar show for the PSP Go. Well, Nintendo offers the DSi at a higher price point than the DS without glaring expensive differences, so why can’t Sony do likewise?

Actually I’m more interested to know how Sony plans to lure existing PSP owners with a games collection on UMD into upgrading.

Finally Pachter’s point about piracy may not hold much water, as hackers seem pretty interested in the PSP so far with custom firmwares coming on a regular basis and perhaps they will put on a similar show for the PSP Go.

]]> By: hitnrun http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80101 hitnrun Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:35:34 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80101 I think you can justify the price if you take the same view as with the PS3: Sony needs money more than market share and is willing to endure mockery and rejection to milk the people who *will* buy one as hard as possible. Of course I don't think the PS3's situation is that extreme, but the same theory still applies. Sony doesn't care what you or I think: they need da mufuckin money. Of course that brings up the question of why they spent probably eight digits in R&D creating a new product in the first place. I think you can justify the price if you take the same view as with the PS3: Sony needs money more than market share and is willing to endure mockery and rejection to milk the people who *will* buy one as hard as possible.

Of course I don’t think the PS3′s situation is that extreme, but the same theory still applies. Sony doesn’t care what you or I think: they need da mufuckin money. Of course that brings up the question of why they spent probably eight digits in R&D creating a new product in the first place.

]]> By: cachucha http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80094 cachucha Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:40:46 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80094 flash its really cheap and getting cheaper everyday flash its really cheap and getting cheaper everyday

]]> By: Cort http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80093 Cort Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:39:12 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80093 http://kotaku.com/5286488/analyst-sonys-249-psp-go-is-too-much Pachter once again showing that he engages his mouth before inviting his own brain into the conversation. "I don't think it has anything to do with retail, and truly think that Sony is right to charge what the market will bear," Pachter said. "The fact is that Sony has been subsidizing the cost of the PS3 since launch, so to say that they are 'ripping off' consumers now is not really fair, and if I could retract the statement, I would do so." http://kotaku.com/5286488/analyst-sonys-249-psp-go-is-too-much

Pachter once again showing that he engages his mouth before inviting his own brain into the conversation.

“I don’t think it has anything to do with retail, and truly think that Sony is right to charge what the market will bear,” Pachter said. “The fact is that Sony has been subsidizing the cost of the PS3 since launch, so to say that they are ‘ripping off’ consumers now is not really fair, and if I could retract the statement, I would do so.”

]]> By: deftangel http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80086 deftangel Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:22:04 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80086 Sony will be buying flash memory chips in massive bulk, just like Apple would with iPods etc. I would view it as very probably that it's equal cost to the UMD assembly at absolute worse. Even taking into account the redesign and built in profit margin for retailers I think they're milking this a bit. I really wanted one as I've never owned my own PSP but the European pricing is even worse :( Sony will be buying flash memory chips in massive bulk, just like Apple would with iPods etc. I would view it as very probably that it’s equal cost to the UMD assembly at absolute worse.

Even taking into account the redesign and built in profit margin for retailers I think they’re milking this a bit.

I really wanted one as I’ve never owned my own PSP but the European pricing is even worse :(

]]> By: anasui http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80081 anasui Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:12:26 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80081 rofl, and the vg247 community goes apeshit against the usual targets. God forbid they dare to touch anything Sony does rofl, and the vg247 community goes apeshit against the usual targets. God forbid they dare to touch anything Sony does

]]> By: Dr.Ghettoblaster http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80062 Dr.Ghettoblaster Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:41:58 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80062 Hey, if the PSPgo brings more quality PSP games to the table then where exactly is the problem? If you don't like the price, but the older PSP model. Sony already confirmed that UMD's will continue to be supported. Hey, if the PSPgo brings more quality PSP games to the table then where exactly is the problem? If you don’t like the price, but the older PSP model. Sony already confirmed that UMD’s will continue to be supported.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80059 Psychotext Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:33:29 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80059 Not as expensive as you might believe: http://www.dramexchange.com/#flash Not as expensive as you might believe:
http://www.dramexchange.com/#flash

]]> By: Razor http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80055 Razor Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:18:16 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80055 Oh yeah Psyc... silly me :P I don't believe him though...flash is pretty expensive. Oh yeah Psyc…

silly me :P

I don’t believe him though…flash is pretty expensive.

]]> By: Razor http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80054 Razor Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:17:09 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80054 Can someone explain how piracy is stopped on the Go? I don't understand how that works. Can someone explain how piracy is stopped on the Go?

I don’t understand how that works.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80053 Psychotext Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:16:46 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80053 "Has he factored in the flash memory? That isn’t cheap." Didn't even make it to the third paragraph of the article did you? :P “Has he factored in the flash memory? That isn’t cheap.”

Didn’t even make it to the third paragraph of the article did you? :P

]]> By: Cort http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80052 Cort Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:13:05 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80052 And what did he say when Nintendo announced the price of the Wii? And what did he say when Nintendo announced the price of the Wii?

]]> By: dirigiblebill http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80050 dirigiblebill Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:00:56 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80050 I would have to agree, really. It'll be interesting to see how Sony markets the Go. From the specs, the only people I can imagine buying it would be those who already own a PSP. I would have to agree, really.

It’ll be interesting to see how Sony markets the Go. From the specs, the only people I can imagine buying it would be those who already own a PSP.

]]> By: Seraphemz http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80049 Seraphemz Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:59:45 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80049 All I know is that I'm getting one. 250 is within my budget. Bluetooth so I can tether my mobile phone....sold. Just paid 200 for the Pre worth every penny..and so will the Go! All I know is that I’m getting one. 250 is within my budget.

Bluetooth so I can tether my mobile phone….sold.

Just paid 200 for the Pre worth every penny..and so will the Go!

]]> By: satsugai http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80045 satsugai Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:55:56 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80045 Give this man a cake. He tells the truth. Give this man a cake. He tells the truth.

]]> By: Johnny Cullen http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80044 Johnny Cullen Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:54:42 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80044 Say what you like Pachter, but either way, he's right. Say what you like Pachter, but either way, he’s right.

]]> By: Shatner http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80038 Shatner Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:47:37 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80038 Given that millions have paid top dollar for what amounts to two gamecubes stuck together with tape or an astonishingly overpriced mobile phone/fashion accessory I'm not sure what's so wildly different about pointing out that luxury goods are frequently overpriced and expensive. Hey, BDH, not that I don't enjoy your point of view or disagree with the mocking treatment you get by the blindly retaliatory infants around here but, i'm curious, which operating system do you use? Given that millions have paid top dollar for what amounts to two gamecubes stuck together with tape or an astonishingly overpriced mobile phone/fashion accessory I’m not sure what’s so wildly different about pointing out that luxury goods are frequently overpriced and expensive.

Hey, BDH, not that I don’t enjoy your point of view or disagree with the mocking treatment you get by the blindly retaliatory infants around here but, i’m curious, which operating system do you use?

]]> By: Dr.Ghettoblaster http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80035 Dr.Ghettoblaster Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:43:55 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80035 this guy looks like the devil in disguise this guy looks like the devil in disguise

]]> By: blackdreamhunk http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80034 blackdreamhunk Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:41:50 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80034 I don't know this guy but I like him alot lol. See more proof that big companies milk console gamers. I don’t know this guy but I like him alot lol. See more proof that big companies milk console gamers.

]]> By: Razor http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/10/pachter-says-sony-is-ripping-off-the-consumer-with-psp-go-price/comment-page-1/#comment-80028 Razor Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:38:40 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=41076#comment-80028 Has he factored in the flash memory? That isn't cheap. Either way, I'm getting sick of hearing from him and his "expert" opinions. He should just go away. Has he factored in the flash memory? That isn’t cheap.

Either way, I’m getting sick of hearing from him and his “expert” opinions. He should just go away.

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