Wed, May 20, 2009 | 08:29 BST

Leaked Trico footage is real, talk casts doubt on E3 reveal

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VG247 has it on cast iron authority that the Trico footage leaked overnight is real.

Strict anonymity surrounds the information.

The footage, as has now been widely speculated, is over a year old.

We’ve also been told this morning that the game may not sufficiently advanced enough for an E3 reveal.

Great fear surrounds this, Ringo. We’re waiting on comment from Sony.

107 comments

#51

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 5:55 pm

Let’s just say there is newer footage, and better looking footage, why would it not be at E3?

I think it will be.

#52

Cort
20/05/09, 6:40 pm

TGS. Definitely.

#53

Gekidami
20/05/09, 6:43 pm

Japanese game for a Japanese show, i dont really understand how anyone could expect it to be at E3.

#54

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 7:09 pm

Becuase it’s an internationally relevant game. By the same logic, why would they show GT5 at E3, rather than TGS?

It didn’t sell any better in Japan than it did here. It’s just Japan developed.

#55

Shatner
20/05/09, 8:31 pm

I’m still very dubious. Nobody answered my question properly (or even tried to). And those that felt sleighted seemed to think that mocking the mentality to ask questions was as good a response as answering them.

Anyone can release a fake trailer this close to E3 and expect gameblogs like this place to scoop it up and make a couple of stories from it. “Legitimising” this by asserting the less you see of it at E3 the more straight this story is doesn’t really convince me of anything.

As I say, I’m intrested in Team Ico’s next game. I’d just prefer news of it to come from more reliable sources. When someone’s tried to fool you once why should you believe them without questioning the source of the information? And if people refuse to answer straight, simple questions by acting like children why should that add any weight to their claims. If you want to be regarded as credible, try behaving in a credible manner.

#56

SticKboy
20/05/09, 8:41 pm

I like cake.

#57

Shatner
20/05/09, 8:54 pm

Good for you. I like credible news sources.

So far all I can find from this is a ‘me too’ PlayStation blog, a games forum (already arguing with assumed expertise about what the game is and how it will end), and a whole lot of hype-blogs linking to them with some qoting ‘anonymous’ sources. Oooh! How mysteriously connected some people are!!

Would be nice to believe this but tracing the route to the origin, it’s about as credible as crop-circles being proof of UFOs.

#58

Psychotext
20/05/09, 8:55 pm

I like cake too.

#59

Shatner
20/05/09, 8:57 pm

There you go Psycho, you’re doing it again. Just thought I’d point it out to you as you seem to be completely unaware of it yourself.

No, it’s ok. No need to thank me.

#60

Mike
20/05/09, 8:57 pm

Well, I know it’s real. It’s never what you know, it’s who. :)

#61

Psychotext
20/05/09, 8:59 pm

Pointing out that I like cake is a problem now? Who knew?

#62

Shatner
20/05/09, 9:01 pm

Real what Mike? Old footage? Of what Mike? Old news?

And you’ve argued you’ve known certain facts about certain things before Mike, haven’t you. And we both know you were telling porkies to look big and important on the internet with those..

So, like I say, credible sources are still abundantly lacking.

Tell you what Mike, why don’t you do some copy and pasting into Twitter and giggle about it amongst your internet chums? You can look important that way!

Psycho, your ability to selectively NOT see things doesn’t help you. Certainly doesn’t do much for your armchair analyst ‘expertise’ either. Just like your inability to identify the colour blue.

DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY! :D

#63

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:02 pm

Well this game is surrounded by security.

If you ahve ot heard this rumour splashed about the place several times, then that’s your too bad. But I know people who have seen this, and what comes after this. So I defintely think it’s real.

Infact… Shatner, do you ever know what this chain picture was all about?

http://www.scei.co.jp/saiyo/career/index.html

Scroll down to the 4 job opps, the one above GranTurismo is clearly a capture from this video. Before the bird appears. Clinking on that link, takes you to this page:

http://www.scei.co.jp/saiyo/career/wanda.html

Which is from the movie. It’s been there since 2007.

#64

Psychotext
20/05/09, 9:04 pm

Project your issues elsewhere Shatner, I’m not particularly interested.

#65

Shatner
20/05/09, 9:04 pm

And?

2 years is more than enough time to fake something. Look at that Nintendo ON fake.

As many of you are keen to ignore: I’d like this to be true. I’ve just yet to encounter a single credible source that can legitimise it.

That’s right Psycho, DENY DENY DENY DENY PERPETUATE DENY DENY DENY DENY INDIFFERENCE DENY DENY DENY.

You’re doing it again. It’s pretty blatant. Surprising you can’t see it for yourself. :D

#66

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:04 pm

Mike, that much is true. I bet my our guy has seen mroe, and kows more about the games xD

I wish I knew :/

I kidn of don’t actually.

Anyway, is that enough Shatty sr.?

#67

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:05 pm

Oh my god Shatner, the fact that peopel always forget about that tiny little icon on the page, and yet the video still matches up, should be enough to convince you, but if not man, then too bad.

The video ahs been doing the rounds. It’s been out and about. It’s real. But it’s OLD. It looks different now.

#68

Shatner
20/05/09, 9:07 pm

Read 65 again No_PUDing, you’re arguing the wrong issue.

It’s not that I don’t want to believe, it’s just that I’ve not been given a good reason to…

…and we all know how much you want to believe. You were always going to believe the first thing that looked half likely anyway.

#69

Psychotext
20/05/09, 9:07 pm

/bites fist

Shatner is criticising me.

/bottom lip wobble

#70

Shatner
20/05/09, 9:09 pm

DENY DENY DENY MOCK DENY DENY DENY DENY PERPETUATE DENY DENY DENY

Keep it up son. You might spot it soon.

#71

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:11 pm

Shatner, re-read all my posts, I am not arguing a single thing. I am presenting evidence to you, and you are disregarding it.

And that’s your problem.

#72

lelik
20/05/09, 9:17 pm

you’re most definitely wrong shatner but if you’re right about this then you are GOD!!1

#73

Shatner
20/05/09, 9:19 pm

What am I disregarding? A 2 year gap and the fact that leaks of major games news rarely appear from me-too single format games blogs run by amateurs? And that when asked for some substantiation from the people who (apparently) know what’s what, they refused to do so and just mocked and implied that THEY knew and that’s good enough?! Not in my book sunshine.

You’re choosing to disregard the quite appropriate Nintendo ON fake (and, I dare say, any other fake that ever occured) Looked real. ‘Leaked’ at just the right time. To an audience who wanted to believe more than ask questions. Turned out nobody should have wasted their time on it at after all! Oh noes!

You want to believe so anything that challenges your belief seems unreasonable. A lot of people believe in a God too. With no credible evidence of the existance of one. They believe real hard too! People who don’t believe what they believe aren’t right in the head. People die. Wars occur.

So, just because I don’t believe what you believe, given the ‘evidence’ and just as much ‘evidence’ to support healthy scepticism, I’m no particularly bothered by your diagnosis.

I’m disregarding nothing. Particularly the evidence that supports scepticism. You’re the one disregarding what you don’t want to know in favour of not letting it dilute the idea of what you do.

Show me CREDIBLE, RECENT sources to legitimise this and we’ll see.

Like you, I want to believe. But, like Roger Daltry, I won’t get fooled again. :D

#74

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:24 pm

You want to believe on your own. I am pretty fucking disappointed having heard the rumours coming from miles off.

I am hoping that the non-target, realtime demo is much more interesting. Ofcourse I am happy becuase it will be an amazing game nonetheless.

Anyway, there is nothing about these shots that is not credible, other than where they have been leaked from. Everything else, only serves to support it.

#75

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:26 pm

There’s nothing credible to deny it. Unlike God, who we’ve never seen.

Anyway, Pat, don’t think you;re off the hook. I will eb spamming comment sections, until you share one incidental detail, that is not a problem to share.

#76

Shatner
20/05/09, 9:28 pm

“there is nothing about these shots that is not credible, other than where they have been leaked from.”

So according to you, there’s not doubt on the credibility except their source.

Have you listened to yourself? You’re trying to argue with me whilst saying exactly what I’ve said.

I’ve never said I don’t want to believe. I just don’t have any credible source of information that suggests I should. Dubious sources refusing to answer simple questions and just insisting they be believe because of their implied connnections just doesn’t cut it. Smells like a lot of bluff that I’ve seen before.

#77

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:43 pm

Shatner, have you listened to yourself? It’s hilarious once you wind around all the sarcasm and double negatives.

Let me present it to you simply:

You first repeat to me that I have one reason for doubting it: the source.

And then you try to ridicule me for exactly that, as if I should believe it. Shatner, that is the lone doubt I have. The footage’s credibility is supported by far more obvious things that can be established through common sense.

You are as predictable as the rest of us, and the reason you’re not worth speaking to, is becuase you aren’t clever enough to express your point in under 1500 words most of the time. I bet half of those are double negatives.

#78

Mike
20/05/09, 9:49 pm

So, Shatner’s stalking my Twitter account. Lovely.

#79

Gekidami
20/05/09, 9:51 pm

Who isnt? I’m also stalking your house.

#80

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 9:53 pm

psst pssst Gek, what’s Mike’s Twitter? I really want to stalk him.

#81

Gekidami
20/05/09, 9:55 pm

…I have no idea… Way to break the illusion Pud! :(

#82

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:35 pm

Shtuup…. :/

I try so hard.

Mike knows what the BBC game is though. Pssst psst MIKE, tell me it isn’t TRICO, if thats true.

#83

Michael O'Connor
20/05/09, 10:42 pm

We’ll all be laughing at Shatner when this turns out to be real.

#84

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:42 pm

We’ll all be laughing even if it turns out to be fake.

#85

Patrick Garratt
20/05/09, 10:43 pm

It is real.

*baffled*

#86

Mike
20/05/09, 10:46 pm

Are you CREDIBLE and RECENT though, Pat?

#87

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:46 pm

Patlike….

Comon man.. Tell me what the BBC game ISN’T.

#88

freedoms_stain
20/05/09, 10:47 pm

Why doesn’t the kid have horns? That’s what I want to know.

This series has been awash with horny kids and here’s a kid with a giant cat-rat and no horns.

What gives?

#89

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:47 pm

Mike ofcourse he isn’t. Not to Shatner, after the Fallout 3 news xD

#90

Shatner
20/05/09, 10:49 pm

Mike,

I clicked a link where you publicised your page in the Twitter topic on the forum. I don’t care for Twitter. But I thought I’d see what yours looked like after you went to the effort of making it easy for everyone to glance at.

It’s not like I looked for information that wasn’t being publicised by its owner or even left this very site. I’ve not even gone as far as to publicise the information you presented on your behalf either. I respect the privacy of others, even when they’re childish and rude.

What’s that Mike? You’re distorting things in order to present a story of something without checking any reliable source? I guess that’s what you do isn’t it Mike? If the facts don’t fit your story, just ignore ‘em!

As for stalking.. well, it’s not like I’m going around copy and pasting things YOU write to giggle amongst my internet friends now is it?

#91

Patrick Garratt
20/05/09, 10:50 pm

Am I recent? I’m right now. Can’t get more recent than that.

I am now going to eat some chocolate and drink some tea.

#92

Mike
20/05/09, 10:51 pm

Go for your life.

#93

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:52 pm

There’s been more hornless kids than horny kids in this series.

Just means he’s not cursed, or it’s before the horned boys.

Or (i wish) it’s a different universe.

#94

Shatner
20/05/09, 10:52 pm

Pat, recent was one of the criteria that is significant. (A lot of stuff happens in 2 years. Hell, games can go from platform exclusive to multiplatform in a matter of hours.) You persistently refuse to address the others. But, you know, feel free to drop in late and get the wrong end of the wrong stick whenever it suits you!

#83 – MoC, if you do, you’ll only be demonstrating you haven’t grasped my point. A point I’ve repeated numerous times in this discussion and already pointed out that people are tripping over themselves to ignore because they want to suggest I’m saying something I haven’t.

I know you’re passing yourself off as trying to run a games news blog. But save the misquoting and distortion to the professionals, eh?

Don’t worry MoC I know you selectively ignore things when you want to. So you can pretend your misquoting is factual even though you’ve been corrected in black and white! Why bother with facts when your made-up view suits you so much better?!

#95

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:54 pm

Shatner, I support your Pat persecution until he spills xD

#96

freedoms_stain
20/05/09, 10:55 pm

“There’s been more hornless kids than horny kids in this series.”

I recall only 3 kids ICO: horned, Yorda: not horned, Baby Wander: horned

net: horned > hornless

#97

No_PUDding
20/05/09, 10:58 pm

Maybe you shoudl count all the kids.

ICO: Horned
Yorda: Not Horned
Wander: Not Horned
Mono: Not Horned

There are your pivotal roles. Baby wander is the last 5 mintes and only slightly playable.

#98

Shatner
20/05/09, 11:06 pm

#95 – I’m not persecuting anyone. I’ve not pointed a finger at any one individual in respect of this story. You’re distorting and dramatising things unnecessarily. Try not to do that.

My reasons for scepticism is because I wish to avoid disappointment. I’ve been given numerous reasons to mistrust unreliable sources, anonymous sources, sources that exaggerate, distort, mislead and misconstrue. I asked for clarification and got nothing but infantile retorts and belligerance.

I’m in the pursuit of a credible source. Nobody has yet been able to provide one. They just prefer to mock because I won’t blindly swallow information that others prefer to believe.

It’s as effective as writing “LOL” in response to every question in an exam. Sure, it’s a response and you can mock. It’s not actually an answer so it doesn’t really count for shit at the end of the day, does it? It’s just someone trying to act like a smartass.

If anything it further damages credibility instead of repairing it. The only people who think that’s a smart move are those who aren’t in the habit of being held accountable for anything they say.

#99

freedoms_stain
20/05/09, 11:07 pm

I wasn’t counting Wander or Mono as kids, young, but not kids.

#100

Patrick Garratt
20/05/09, 11:07 pm

Shat – I had no idea what any of you were talking about. Was just banter. You big fun-loving bear, you.

Pud – I was told about the BBC thing a while ago in real confidence. You’ll get nothing from me :D

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