Comments on: Black Rock Studios says racing genre is “dying”, Split/Second will save it http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: ashers2ashers http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66357 ashers2ashers Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:21:10 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66357 @DrDamn: That deal is amazing! I really did love Burnout 3 and revenge and have long thought about getting Paradise, when the ultimate box came out - and relatively cheap too - I knew I'd get it some day, maybe preowned. But that is a good price, let alone with another game too! Admittedly it's 'only' trivial pursuit, but I enjoy a bit of general knowledge and is another game you can play with everyone in the family. So I'm definitely getting that when I have sufficient funds. :P @DrDamn:
That deal is amazing!
I really did love Burnout 3 and revenge and have long thought about getting Paradise, when the ultimate box came out – and relatively cheap too – I knew I’d get it some day, maybe preowned. But that is a good price, let alone with another game too!

Admittedly it’s ‘only’ trivial pursuit, but I enjoy a bit of general knowledge and is another game you can play with everyone in the family.

So I’m definitely getting that when I have sufficient funds. :P

]]> By: OrphanageExplosion http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66335 OrphanageExplosion Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:57:46 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66335 As I understand it, there are few ex-Burnout coders working at Black Rock now. But kudos to BR for the Pure engine, which is absolutely fantastic. I'm guessing it's too much to hope that Split/Second is 60 frames per second. As I understand it, there are few ex-Burnout coders working at Black Rock now. But kudos to BR for the Pure engine, which is absolutely fantastic. I’m guessing it’s too much to hope that Split/Second is 60 frames per second.

]]> By: mightyhokie http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66296 mightyhokie Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:52:45 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66296 I loved dIrt and, of course, Burnout. I loved dIrt and, of course, Burnout.

]]> By: Hakkiz http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66287 Hakkiz Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:44:02 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66287 Syrok: WRC games will hardly be revived until the WRC series revives itself. However, I think Richard Burns Rally is still a very, very compelling game in that genre if you have a decent computer to play it on. Just add some mods like HDR-like bloom and current season and it's almost like a new game. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g35tMnlhYI&NR=1 Syrok: WRC games will hardly be revived until the WRC series revives itself. However, I think Richard Burns Rally is still a very, very compelling game in that genre if you have a decent computer to play it on. Just add some mods like HDR-like bloom and current season and it’s almost like a new game. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g35tMnlhYI&NR=1

]]> By: ecu http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66245 ecu Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:24:27 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66245 Split/Second actually looks really good though, and the previews have suggested it will be. Split/Second actually looks really good though, and the previews have suggested it will be.

]]> By: Harry http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66236 Harry Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:10:29 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66236 I agree Syrok. Motorstorm seems a real waste of talent when you consider how much better the WRC games were. But we're in the world of lowest common denominator publishing now - so don't hold out any hope. I agree Syrok. Motorstorm seems a real waste of talent when you consider how much better the WRC games were. But we’re in the world of lowest common denominator publishing now – so don’t hold out any hope.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66233 G1GAHURTZ Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:04:31 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66233 "<i>Reminds me of Stuntman: Ignition.</i>" I was playing that the other day. Outside of the game engine, it's really well presented. I was surprised. “Reminds me of Stuntman: Ignition.”

I was playing that the other day. Outside of the game engine, it’s really well presented.

I was surprised.

]]> By: Syrok http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66232 Syrok Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:04:18 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66232 There is a distinct lack of proper rally games, though. I wish the guys who made the WRC titles could work on a new one, instead of Motorstorm. There is a distinct lack of proper rally games, though.

I wish the guys who made the WRC titles could work on a new one, instead of Motorstorm.

]]> By: ElfShotTheFood http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66229 ElfShotTheFood Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:58:47 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66229 Reminds me of Stuntman: Ignition. Reminds me of Stuntman: Ignition.

]]> By: Michael O'Connor http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66227 Michael O'Connor Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:51:36 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66227 "What we need is racing with a gimmick. I now… EXPLOSIONS!! Why did nobody think of that before?" SEGA tried that. It flopped. Massively. “What we need is racing with a gimmick. I now…

EXPLOSIONS!!

Why did nobody think of that before?”

SEGA tried that.

It flopped. Massively.

]]> By: phatb0y http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66226 phatb0y Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:49:46 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66226 Burnout, GT-P, Midnight Club, Wipeout, Mario Kart, GRID, Ridge Racer, Motorstorm, PGR etc. Yeah, that genre is well and truly fucked. What we need is racing with a gimmick. I know... EXPLOSIONS!! Why did nobody think of that before? Burnout, GT-P, Midnight Club, Wipeout, Mario Kart, GRID, Ridge Racer, Motorstorm, PGR etc.

Yeah, that genre is well and truly fucked.

What we need is racing with a gimmick. I know…

EXPLOSIONS!!

Why did nobody think of that before?

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66224 theevilaires Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:46:09 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66224 EVERYTHING IS DYING ! the FIGHTING GENRE was DYING...until SF4 the SURVIVAL HORROR GENRE was DYING...until RE5 the CASUAL GENRE was DYING...until the Wii Now its the RACING GENRE?...until Black Rock Studios saves the day?....HEY BLACK ROCK....STFU you stupid mother fucking,dumb ass,pussy lipped cock sucking,shit heads!!!!!!!!! You're not saving shit because the Racing Genre was never on the ropes. You will be lucky if your game does a fraction of what elite racing titles like Burnout and GT5 have. As a matter of fact I have a feeling the only thing thats going to be dying is your studio after thousands and thousands of copies are pirated...I'm psychic! EVERYTHING IS DYING !

the FIGHTING GENRE was DYING…until SF4

the SURVIVAL HORROR GENRE was DYING…until RE5

the CASUAL GENRE was DYING…until the Wii

Now its the RACING GENRE?…until Black Rock Studios saves the day?….HEY BLACK ROCK….STFU you stupid mother fucking,dumb ass,pussy lipped cock sucking,shit heads!!!!!!!!! You’re not saving shit because the Racing Genre was never on the ropes. You will be lucky if your game does a fraction of what elite racing titles like Burnout and GT5 have. As a matter of fact I have a feeling the only thing thats going to be dying is your studio after thousands and thousands of copies are pirated…I’m psychic!

]]> By: Gamoc http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66223 Gamoc Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:44:26 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66223 Don't forget GRID! Don’t forget GRID!

]]> By: Shatner http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66222 Shatner Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:44:21 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66222 EA's Need For Speed games were often the Xmas number 1 game. It got to a point that it had happened so often that it was regarded as a foregone conclusion. The guy specifically mentioned software sales, but I don't think there's much merit to his claims. He was wise to make a special exception for Mario Kart though, those Nintendo devotees would have slaughtered him if he'd implicated a Nintendo IP in his statement! EA’s Need For Speed games were often the Xmas number 1 game. It got to a point that it had happened so often that it was regarded as a foregone conclusion.

The guy specifically mentioned software sales, but I don’t think there’s much merit to his claims. He was wise to make a special exception for Mario Kart though, those Nintendo devotees would have slaughtered him if he’d implicated a Nintendo IP in his statement!

]]> By: ecu http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66220 ecu Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:39:50 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66220 No, I'm sure Burnout Paradise is a huge influence to them, and I'm sure he would admit that, too. Blerk, he never said it would save the genre. That was added in by Stephany here by the looks of it. If you read the feature he's just being optimistic about his game. This is how journalism works though, you quote out of context to make someone sound like they're being more vehement than they actually are. They way you guys are talking, you're making it sound like he came out and said Burnout was shit and they'd crush every other game around. He said nothing of the sort. No, I’m sure Burnout Paradise is a huge influence to them, and I’m sure he would admit that, too.

Blerk, he never said it would save the genre. That was added in by Stephany here by the looks of it. If you read the feature he’s just being optimistic about his game. This is how journalism works though, you quote out of context to make someone sound like they’re being more vehement than they actually are. They way you guys are talking, you’re making it sound like he came out and said Burnout was shit and they’d crush every other game around. He said nothing of the sort.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66217 Psychotext Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:35:54 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66217 Where are these Burnout Paradise sales numbers coming from? Last I saw it was at 1m between the PS3 and 360 about three months after it launched. Solid sales, but not what I'd consider setting the world on fire for a multiplatform title. Where are these Burnout Paradise sales numbers coming from?

Last I saw it was at 1m between the PS3 and 360 about three months after it launched. Solid sales, but not what I’d consider setting the world on fire for a multiplatform title.

]]> By: tenthousandgothsonacid http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66216 tenthousandgothsonacid Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:32:18 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66216 He goes on to say " “If you look at screenshots of racing games, they all kind of look the same. [The minimal HUD is] another example of how we’re trying something different" Do you think he covers his ears and eyes and goes "lalalalala" every time someone even mentions Burnout Paradise ? He goes on to say ” “If you look at screenshots of racing games, they all kind of look the same. [The minimal HUD is] another example of how we’re trying something different”

Do you think he covers his ears and eyes and goes “lalalalala” every time someone even mentions Burnout Paradise ?

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66215 Blerk Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:30:59 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66215 Well, he said they would 'save' the genre. Which sort of suggests that they think they're going to outperform all the existing players by some distance. Otherwise they wouldn't be saving it, would they? Well, he said they would ‘save’ the genre. Which sort of suggests that they think they’re going to outperform all the existing players by some distance. Otherwise they wouldn’t be saving it, would they?

]]> By: ecu http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66213 ecu Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:27:37 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66213 What are you guys disagreeing with? He's pretty much right. The racing genre isn't in a great way at the moment, apart from Mario Kart (which he acknowledged, and never said Split/Second would outsell it). In fact, he never said Split/Second would outsell anything, he simply highlighted how it would be different to other racing games. What are you guys disagreeing with? He’s pretty much right. The racing genre isn’t in a great way at the moment, apart from Mario Kart (which he acknowledged, and never said Split/Second would outsell it).

In fact, he never said Split/Second would outsell anything, he simply highlighted how it would be different to other racing games.

]]> By: Harry http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66211 Harry Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:25:50 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66211 There are hardly any good racers around to tempt us with our cash, that's the real problem. The last NFS was rubbish. RACE Pro wasn't quite good enough. We haven't had anything from Bizarre or Turn 10 for ages, you can wait a lifetime for Polyphony to release anything. The genre isn't dying in terms of sales, we're just not given anything to buy. There are hardly any good racers around to tempt us with our cash, that’s the real problem.

The last NFS was rubbish. RACE Pro wasn’t quite good enough.

We haven’t had anything from Bizarre or Turn 10 for ages, you can wait a lifetime for Polyphony to release anything.

The genre isn’t dying in terms of sales, we’re just not given anything to buy.

]]> By: Cort http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66205 Cort Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:10:38 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66205 Burnout: Paradise has done over 2m (without counting PSN sales) and it has legs too. Burnout: Paradise has done over 2m (without counting PSN sales) and it has legs too.

]]> By: DrDamn http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66202 DrDamn Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:06:51 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66202 Picked up Burnout Paradise Ultimate Box for £16 - and got Trivial Pursuit bundled with it (360) ... Bargain! http://www.softuk.com/Xbox_360_Product_View.asp?ProdID=36UK10112657 Picked up Burnout Paradise Ultimate Box for £16 – and got Trivial Pursuit bundled with it (360) … Bargain!

http://www.softuk.com/Xbox_360_Product_View.asp?ProdID=36UK10112657

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66200 G1GAHURTZ Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:03:09 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66200 Arguably, and IMO, Midnight Club LA is the current king of street racers. Arguably, and IMO, Midnight Club LA is the current king of street racers.

]]> By: Michael O'Connor http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66198 Michael O'Connor Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:02:11 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66198 "Didn’t exactly set the world on fire with regards to sales though." You're kidding, right? In the first few weeks alone, it sold nearly a million copies. That was over a year ago, and the game continues to get spikes of interest when new content is released. Not to mention the recent box set, which probably shifted a few hundred thousand copies at least. I'd easily estimate sales of the game have hit nearly 2 million, at the least. “Didn’t exactly set the world on fire with regards to sales though.”

You’re kidding, right? In the first few weeks alone, it sold nearly a million copies. That was over a year ago, and the game continues to get spikes of interest when new content is released. Not to mention the recent box set, which probably shifted a few hundred thousand copies at least.

I’d easily estimate sales of the game have hit nearly 2 million, at the least.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66196 Blerk Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:00:44 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66196 But surely Burnout is Split/Second's nearest similar competitor? And there's not a snowball's chance in hell it'll outsell that, never mind Mario Kart. Mario Kart's on another planet. But surely Burnout is Split/Second’s nearest similar competitor?

And there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell it’ll outsell that, never mind Mario Kart. Mario Kart’s on another planet.

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66193 G1GAHURTZ Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:50:41 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66193 I'm still waiting for TDU 2. I’m still waiting for TDU 2.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66191 Psychotext Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:49:10 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66191 Didn't exactly set the world on fire with regards to sales though. That said, even if you do take Mario Kart out of the equation there's still Gran Turismo and Forza which sell well. Didn’t exactly set the world on fire with regards to sales though.

That said, even if you do take Mario Kart out of the equation there’s still Gran Turismo and Forza which sell well.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/22/black-rock-studios-says-racing-genre-is-%e2%80%9cdying%e2%80%9d-splitsecond-will-save-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66189 Blerk Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:47:32 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=31701#comment-66189 Er.. Burnout says hi! Er.. Burnout says hi!

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