Stephen Fry doing LBP 2 voice work?

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was more Fable, either. Wossy already blew that particular party wide open with his Twatter feed, after all.

Probably Fable III imo.

Doubt it’s voice work for Fable III this early in development.

It’s LBP for PSP surely.

Yeah I think LBP PSP.

Ooh, just had an epmithamy.

What if he is doing LittleBigPlanet for the PSP?

EDIT:

Maybe it’s LBP for PSP.

I’m hoping for a sequel to this.

Do you think it might be LBP for PSP?

I think it could be LBP for PSP.

I’m going to hazard a guess…

MODERN WARFARE 2 FTW!!!

Ah, look! Brownie-point sensationalism again. [yawn]

It’s clearly not “LBP 2″ as a miniscule application of common sense shows, but it’s more important to have the potential sensationalism (and garner page and advertising hits from aggregators) than to convey useful, straightforward information.

And, as a cute little excuse, the author can argue that he was making no statement but ‘merely’ asking a question. Hell, there’s not even a “RUMOUR:” in the title either.

Don’t you have any integrity Mike?

No, no. I’m not making a statement. I’m merely asking a question.

Still think it’s LBP for PSP

Could be VO work for the new DLC for Fable 2 too.

Myself and a friend made some brownies not too long ago
We put toffee in them and made a huge batch because we’re fat kints

What… you made some brownie guides and fed them toffee!???

And, just as I stated before, the usual suspects kickstart their efforts to distract from anything they don’t want brought to anyone’s attention!

Gee. I’m sure nobody is fooled by those clever school-yard level tactics that you guys employ!

It’s cute to see G1GA rushing to Mike’s aid though isn’t it? It’s just like how Mike ‘innocently’ changed topics when G1GA was posed a tricky question.

When’s the big day, lads? Is it going to be a civil service or a full-blown church do?

Could be some new tutorials for LBP, depending on what MM have planned for new DLC.

Masturbation Shatner, it’s a wonderful thing.

I think it’s LBP for PSP.

Shatner: I applaud what you’re saying, but I think that your pleas are going to fall on arid ground. Rumour is what makes the Internet tick – through posting on blogs and forums two or three words together (Halo 4: Gear Wars) increase the traffic exponentially.

Everyone’s doing it, it’s moral relativism in the guise of competitiveness, I don’t aggree with it either, but what’s going to change?

Common sense is lost on people with psychological problems.

brownies the food eaty stuff. not the young girl activity thing.
im not sure anyone possesses the ability to create a human being in the guise of a brownie either.

ah well, porridge on the go. it’s all kicking off!

Phew!

Stephen Fry has also done vocal work on the Harry Potter games, according to Almighty Wikipedia.

I don’t think it’s the case that people are trying to bury what you’re saying, Shatner. I seriously think it’s because nobody else gives a shit.

Axle, apathy is not a worthwhile response – particulaly for a ‘service’ that claims to inform but pro-actively misinforms and withholds information more than actually informing.

Blerk, people who go out of their way to give their feedback on something aren’t very good examples of ‘not giving a shit’. Actions speak louder than words

Low standards serve folks with little to contribute, like the examples G1GA tirelessly exhibits.

While I agree it’s doubtful the “second version of a game” SF refers to is LBP2, the case is hardly so clear-cut that only “a miniscule application of common sense” is required to confirm this. Nobody here (that I’m aware of!) is privy to Media Molecule’s development schedule.

Shatner, you may find that people are more inclined to give a shit about your generally legitimate critiques of article “spin” if you refrain from dolling them up in hyperactive rhetoric. Being courteous with those who disagree with you rather than trotting out limp-wristed patronising jibes would also be a good move, I suspect. This was precisely my problem with your posts in that “exclusivity” thread a few days ago, though in fairness that wasn’t exactly my finest hour either

I’m courteous to those that are courteous.

Those that are using transparent passive-agressive stunts and being discourteous but trying to fluff it up by pretending they don’t know what they’re doing or doing some sort of virtual-shrug aren’t going to get any courtesy from anyone not taken in by such fakery.

When such transparency is repeatedly used to serve the author and mislead the reader then I see a site that (apparently) aims to inform as being knowingly hypocritical. That’s not particularly courteous behaviour.

In fact, I rarely see anything remotely resembling ‘courtesy’ originating from this site. It deliberately baits and makes incendiary claims and goes as far as to admit and endorse its own behaviour. I see no reason why such behaviour should be free from criticism or why it should expect some sort of free pass just because shitty journalistic standards are the norm and an audience are so poorly informed that they only time they question what they’re told is when it doesn’t match their bias.

Gaming ‘journalism’ has it easy. They hold everyone accountable apart from themselves and immediately act the ignorant victim whenever their practices are called into question. They’re happy to sit around judging everyone else but they do so with a false sense of immunity because, for the most part, they’re so good at questioning the standards of everyone else they’re rarely tasked about their own standards. Their audience is, typically, less knowledgeable about the topics than they are so whatever is coughed up through a word-processor tends to get swallowed wholesale (bias notwithstanding, naturally). Those that generally know more than these outsiders tend to just ignore them until they have a use for their copy/paste talents. Apathy isn’t the answer though.

I’ve nothing against you personally Shatner and some of your comments here are both entertaining and insightful, but your ‘campaign for journalistic perfection’ is increasingly tiresome.

Not every site on the internet has to be up for a Pulitzer prize. Some of them can just be a fun and friendly blog-style news roll for bite-size snippets of games-related rumour, presented in a jaunty style with flippant commentary from a cast of amateurs.

PSP version, or Fable 2 DLC. Move along, nothing to see here. Nothing wrong with a sensationalist headline to bring in the punters through. We’re talking about virtual bouncy little puppet people after all, not something important.

They are making LBP for the PSP. Though god knows why, and it’s too soon or little point in LBP2. It’s either more DLC, which would involve tutorials. I’m sure Fry is not as steeped in gaming as he is attracted to the money it can offer, so I’d read between the lines . It’s obviously the PSP. I’d stake money on it.

Nobody cares about the headline other than the nutcase.

Is it Ghostbusters 2?

Blerk, I’m not campaigning for anything. Certainly not perfection. But if a site that (cl)aims to inform seems to put more effort into concocting misleading headlines, posting funny youtube videos, holding back information so as to create ‘news’ for quiet days, makes repeated basic errors in writing (I’m no grammar nazi, but when words are your trade then I think you should get them right) then I think there’s plenty of grounds for criticism.

Credit to this site that it allows itself to be criticised rather than silence anyone that seeks to do so.

But to present criticism as some ‘call for perfection’ and ‘pulitzer prize’ references is just an example of you mimicing the mentality of the site: exaggerating something for maximum effect – particularly if you’re going to stand against it.

And your amateur/professional observation is screwed up. It’s because VG247 presents itself as professional that it’s amateur standards are so worthy of criticsm. A high quantity of poorly written, deliberately leading (god forbid readers should think for themselves!) articles that have more time spent on their title and image than their content and a nice WordPress theme don’t equate journalistic professionalism to me.

This particular article is a prime example of all of that. With the rare exception of some basic spelling errors.

Professional? Hardly, Blerk – you just want to give something you like a free pass from criticism.

G1GA clearly demonstrating his complete lack of understanding of SEO and general web aggregation.

Your efforts to deflect your own ignorance behind stupid remarks directed at others is a more than a little tragic.

I’m glad that the nutcase has identified himself as being the nutcase.

Acceptance of the problem is the first step towards recovery.

WTF is Shatner?

That’s a seriously tall horse.

Your view of the site rings true for me, Blerk, but conflicts of interest do arise when said “fun and friendly” outlet tries to cover major stories with wide-reaching implications. In that case “jauntiness” can verge dangerously on distortion, though I would argue the problem is far from systematic.

I think the VG247 blurb could perhaps be clearer about the site’s objectives in this regard: It’s not like Kotaku, where the headlines are deliberate and (on the whole) unmistakeably ironic exercises in “added value” – VG247 wishes to write “seriously” about “serious” news in addition to mocking/spoofing such reportage in other areas.

Shatner – even if other posters are guilty of “fluffing” topics or pulling “passive-aggressive stunts” to throw off criticism, you do your own arguments no service at all by playing the tinpot forum tyrant. Also – can you back up your sweeping account of the state of videogame journalism with particulars?

Good show guys! (Bill excluded)

As usual, when you’re not prepared or capable of debate on the same terms, just distract or mock!

I’m enjoying watching G1GA digging that hole ever deeper for himself though.

Psycho, it’s not a high horse at all. You, like Blerk, are going to the exaggeration-fuelled response (not that you’re actually making a proper response of course). My expectations are defined BY this site. That the same site consistently refuses to live up to them is the crux of the matter. Expecting a journlist to be able to publish an article without having a typo in an acronym is not a particularly excessive demand.

Gee. I wonder how tall your horses all are when you think someone is ‘unfairly’ charging you for DLC content that you’ve decided (but have no proof beyond guesswork) might be on the disc! Or how tall those horses are when you mope about the price of your luxury goods and compare them to the prices of luxury goods from a completely different industry!

I will admit to liking the site and will openly admit to being ‘pally’ with the main writers, but I’d hardly say it gets a free pass from me – if something’s wrong or bad here then I’ll quite happily point it out. I just don’t feel the need to accuse them of having some hidden agenda to purposely mislead.

As for professionalism, there are different levels in games writing just as there are in all other forms of journalism. Sensationalist headlines are hardly uncommon in other forms of writing, even from supposedly high-brow sources. Given that sites such as this survive on advertising and most readers will only skim the headlines, you can hardly blame them for trying to create hooks to tempt people in.

I know you don’t consider ‘rumour and conjecture’ to be news, but you appear to be alone on that one. The majority of readers here do appear to be interested in that kind of thing and as long as a rumour is clearly labelled as a rumour and an opinion is clearly labelled as an opinion, I see no problem with their inclusion.

DB, my tone and attitude is a response to the environment. Were this an environment where people are tolerant of a view that contrasted with their own or one that didn’t nurture dismissals and distractions away from legitimate points in discussion then I’d be more willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. We have a couple of the usual clowns in our midst right now.

It seems odd that, in my criticism of a consistent standards that would probably earn this site a D grade in an English GCSE that they are viewed as tyranical. Apathy and pursuit of the course of least resistance is so deeply entrenched in so many that any deviation from it is clearly cause for alarm. Likewise, the absurd responses to such criticisms from onlookers (I’m not actually criticising them after all) to suggest that spell-checking an article before publishing it is a call for ‘perfection’ or the pursuit of a ‘pulitzer prize’ shows just how warped peoples views are. No doubt if you’ve spent a year swallowing shit then tasting anything else is going to seem quite alarming.

“can you back up your sweeping account of the state of videogame journalism with particulars”

Not without breaking one or two NDAs for specific examples of fiction and guesswork paraded as news, no. However, such examples set a precedent where, if you’re aware of such questionable behaviour being conducted when you happen to possess factual information to the contrary then you have to ask yourself (unless you endorse apathy and ignorance) how many other instances this same behaviour occurs. There’s a wealth of shitty videogame sites that follow the same “Gotta post it first and worry about the details” later sites out there were speed and character take priority over factual information on a regular basis.

And just because a lot of shitty journalism is out there doesn’t mean it’s any less shitty.

That Shatner seems like a fairly reasonable fellow doesn’t he.

The nutcase moans about the heat, but stays in the kitchen.

Case closed.

I have to say, I’ve been (and indeed, still am) in a situation where I know the truth about certain things in the industry and yet see websites (including this one) post incorrectly about them, but, well, I wouldn’t say I was angry about it, but I just chalked it down to people actually being excited or interested about it and trying to pass on news to those people to try and work out what the fuck is going on.

“I know you don’t consider ‘rumour and conjecture’ to be news, but you appear to be alone on that one. The majority of readers here do appear to be interested in that kind of thing and as long as a rumour is clearly labelled as a rumour and an opinion is clearly labelled as an opinion, I see no problem with their inclusion.”

Yes, and they’re so interested in keeping their bubble of rumour and conjecture from bursting that they’ll write an awful lot (not that they care, right?) in attempt to curtail the statements of anyone that might be critical of it. You seem to advocate the “let me just enjoy my view on things” whilst being equally keen to stifle mine.

Many responses here are far more interested in snubbing out a particular view than endorsing any of their own, actually. Probably because they have nothing they’re capable of contributing but they like to be disruptive for the sheer hell of it. (DB – this is what I mean by not giving the environment the benefit of the doubt. Fortunately the same clowns keep proving me right on this!) Unfortunately, it’s a practice that the article authors frequently employ themselves – adding weight to the amateurish standards that detract from anything professional.

And Blerk, the problem with rumours and conjecture is that they repeatedly get adopted as fact. You then get the blind leading the blind by arguing that such-and-such was claimed and (because they want to believe it) a ‘fact’ is argued over an opinion and the misinformation snowballs at an alarming rate. Combine the actions of those that actively seek to misinform and push their own agenda and opinions at the expense of facts and genuine information gets almost completely buried.

I’ve no problem with rumours and conjecture – but, as this article shows, when such a status is given a lower profile to trying to tell people what to think and encouraging them to draw conclusions from such rumours then the few factual elements are lost at the EXPENSE of everything else.

Move on three months and some twit will call a games company a liar because a rumour started by a games site that deliberately led people into formulating the own guesswork-conclusions never came true.

And, god forbid, if anyone dares to call out the journalists as the catalyst for all the confusion then all those fans of rumour, conjecture and exaggeration will have a hissy fit.

I used to think Shatner was a bit of a intellectual wanksock dial-a-troll, but by Christ he speaks some sense.

Clearly serious business.

I like the “actions speak louder than words” adage Shatner is using recently. It’s like the irony of him writing more words than anyone else and offering little by way of “action” is lost only on him. It’s also rather amusing that although he criticises games journalism at times, he seems to have no idea as to the role of “contributor” and “editor” and everything in between.

Seriously…. who gives a fuck? Move on FFS!