edit… DAMN YOU PUD !!!

And another thing, people down on the Wiimote, you guys can be quiet. Just becuase devs haven’t implemented the controls well, doesn’t mean it’s shit.

Next generation, everyone will do a Wii in terms of hardware, becuase development of games on anymore powerful tech will not be viable at all. So it’s not the hadrware issue either.

The thing you should be cross with is Nintendo’s intention to chase the casual, and completely alienate the core in the process.

And now if you choose to be cross with that, instead see the 7 and 8 yuear olds, girls especially, getting into this medium early on. They will grow up and want the same interaction, on a more mature level, so it can only be a positive thing for the future of gaming. Just not the present of gaming as we know it.

Lets be honest if Sony re-released the ps2 as a new revision with the same capabilities as the wii from the start they would have murdered Nintendo like they did to sega.

I mean I’d lvoe to see the industry continue to develop the way we all envisioned, but you gotta be realistic and hope the changes affect what you love minimally, or learn to love new things.

And they still have their ‘bigger’ franchises on the way.

Even now things could change on who comes first and last. I’d prefer see Nintendo fad wear out, and see MS come first than a non-game machine. But I should stop being so defensive of the industry as I like it. I am sure there can be lots of good in casual introduction.

1: Short of removing the lights on the front of the 360 RRoD will always be a possibility.

2: The next step will be making a slimline 360… which will require an external PSU initially anyway.

@ Seraphemz: never ever give up on the power of CELL

( and as a SONY fan its hard to admit that…)

Am I in bizzaro world ?? WTF !!! Evil is getting a 360

Of course im getting a 360 right after…

1.they take out the RROD
2.They get rid of that ridiculous power brick
3.PS3 over takes it in sales world wide

Even the themes at play are very basic.

It’s not becuase it’s trying to appeal to idiots either, it’s just becuase it’s trying to create depth in places individual to games. And narrative is needed as a basic driver, that is all it is intended for both ICO and Shadow of the Colossus.

If you want to explain it to me, rather than refer me to an essay. Yes I’d be happy to read. But it’s futile, becuase we clearly have differing views on the games. I just don’t see how you could justify ‘unparalled narrative’. It’s unconventional and different. Not unparalleled.

They could easily pack one and a half to two hours with various games that have already been announced, but I hope there will be some surprises too.

Do you have a few hours? Do you want me to write an essay on the subject? Valid question.

Here’s a link that will go a long way into offering you some insight into why its unparalleled narrative. Since i don’t have the patience to write an essay on the subject, I’ll leave it up to someone who did: http://www.rose-tainted.net/ico/essays/petereliot_annotation.html

“It’s a completely unconventional narrative, I’d agree. It’s a very basic story, I’d agree.”

It’s not basic by any stretch of the mark. The only people who consider story like that “basic” are the kind of gamers who consider games with stories like the convoluted messes of MGS4 and FFVII good storytelling.

You going soft, theevilaires? :p

Welcome to Xbox Land. It’s not that dissimilar to PlayStation Land, actually, only stuff is a little bit cheaper and FOR GODS SAKE DON’T PUT IT NEAR A RADIATOR ARE YOU MAD

It’s a completely unconventional narrative, I’d agree. It’s a very basic story, I’d agree.

Ueda said he was struggling to say anything. Not struggling to develop the game. That much is confirmed when Redmond (TIGMagazine) retranslated it from Famitsu.

@Seraphemz I was saying exactly the oppsosite, there’s no sharing of animation going on. And ND animators are clearly in their own little world, where animations can still afford to transition awfully.

I personally would mind getting Eight Days if its a good game that is in the same genre. As long as its good.

I just find it funny that you have been waiting for me to return so you can throw numbers in my face. Sorry i haven’t been glued to a computer monitor like you have but i’ve been busy packing to leave.

The sad thing psychotext and i’m being serious (cause i spelled your name right for once) you want to be my friend. I know we got off on a bad foot when we first met but i hope when i come back from cali we can put all this xbot and sony fanboy stuff behind us. I hope when i get my xbox360 you also accept my friend invite. You’re a smart guy and i do respect most of your thoughts you post here. Good luck and I hope we can come to a truce…friend

I’d argue that you’ve played Ico and SotC and don’t consider them unparalleled narrative within the gaming industry, then *you* are the pretender.

I’m hoping Team Ico do reveal something at the event, but the fact that Ueda himself admitted they’re “struggling” is not a good sign in the slightest.

Really really really hope it’s real.