It’s quite amazing how deeply you can read into emotions through text, isn’t it? <3

Or as the case may be… not.

Responding to a point does not = frustrated or impatient. Someone’s arguing a point, I’m simply pointing out the reasons why they’re wrong. There’s nothing less or more to it than that, my good sir.

But hey, if you get your kicks by sitting on the internet all day reading into things too much, you go right on ahead and enjoy yourself. I’ve never seen you do that on this site before now either.

The only one I see getting “frustrated” and “impatient” is you, for having your misinformed opinion corrected with facts, which you are desperate to defend because you don’t want to be wrong.

And if I recall, you’re a 360 only owner as well, but correct me if I’m wrong there.

Worked up? I’m simply discussing the point.

If that’s your idea of “worked up”, I’d suggest getting some fresh air.

Doesn’t change the fact that it would be allowing the machine to communicate directly to an outside source, something the 360 can’t do. And in my post, I said this advantage of the 360 is something Sony would do well to take advantage of, which they clearly are.

That’s what I said from the beginning. It was everyone else trying to argue the point.

That’s not Koller… who only says “Plans are already afoot”. I think you’re reading far too much into it.

There’s so much legal tape surrounding the E.A. online gaming it’s not even funny. For almost a year, online gaming with the 360 and E.A. didn’t happen because E.A still wanted to use their own servers and data, and Microsoft didn’t want this.

“Can you tell me where Koller suggests this… because I’m really not seeing it in what’s written.”

Here.

“When asked by panel moderator John Davison if there would ever be a point when someone could be playing PS3 and have it “spit out something to Facebook,”

It’s communicating directly with an outside service. Sending information *to* it instead of simply reading something from it.

“PGR3 & Viva Pinata (not sure if it was just the second or the first did it too) supported taking photos ingame and downloading them from a website.”

Both Microsoft games sending data to Microsoft servers.

Probably that too, but also because they are planning an official site:

5:00-5:40

So does EA Sports World.

I’m really hoping that IW do it for Modern Combat 2 as well.

All games should let you check your stats online if you ask me…

You’re absolutely right that there’s nothing like youtube integration on the 360. But again, we were talking about status updates on facebook… which can be and is done with the available xbox live data.

Saying data is data is like saying pink is blue.

Data can be writeable. It can be read-only. It can be open, or it can be secure. The end result *isn’t* the same. Those sites are simply accessing a limited amount of freely available data that Microsoft uses in it’s own features.

What Koller is suggesting is a process that allows the console to communicate outside of the PS3, at the whim of the user. That includes such things as YouTube and Facebook integration. This can’t be done on the 360 because the 360 doesn’t allow its users to communicate outside of it’s own servers.

How many ways can I explain that before it sinks in?

“There was a site like that. It was called Sackbook, but it was taken down, because it was unofficial and MM are planning to build something like that themselves, if I understood that correctly in a recent Interview.”

Yeah, that’s probably exactly what this stuff Koller is talking about will do.

There was a site like that. It was called Sackbook, but it was taken down, because it was unofficial and MM are planning to build something like that themselves, if I understood that correctly in a recent Interview.

Or at least that’s what I thought we were talking about.

Edit – Here’s some of the things you can do: http://www.xboxlivenation.com/index.php/live-services-mainmenu-85

That’s a one way process. They’re simply reading the data. The Xbox Live servers themselves aren’t communicating with those sites. You’re still missing the point. There’s no way for a person on the 360 to *send* information to other outside sources – the only exceptions to this being Microsoft’s own programs.

Microsoft doesn’t *allow* it. Ask any developer, and they will tell you that everything has to be controlled internally through Microsoft’s own servers.

Also, we don’t really know what Koller is suggesting, at least not from what was said in the article.

The only information available to those people is the games listed on your gamercard and your score – it’s a very limited amount of information. Every other calculation (like the difference in points for my360voice.com ) is done by the sites themselves. Microsoft doesn’t allow any sort of direct communication to its server unless they say so; Halo 3 and MSN Messenger are the only two things I can think of that do… both Microsoft properties.

What Koller is suggesting is a system that will allow your PS3 to automatically communicate with your Facebook (and potentially other future services). How broad that will be, I don’t know, but it could include things like an update telling your friends you’re playing a new game, or game-specific stuff like trophies, unique accomplishment messages, announcing that you published a new level in LittleBigPlanet, or even external “rewards” on Facebook for doing certain things.

A game like LittleBigPlanet would really benefit from something like this, letting fans see what’s going on in game and keep each other updated on it when they’re not playing their PS3. That’s just one example.

This is how facebook pages can query the Xbox Live data to find your last status.

I think you missed the point completely.

Those are sites accessing the information from Microsoft’s servers that Microsoft makes freely available – all they’re do is reading people’s gamercard information and processing it their own way.

But there’s way to do that in reverse; i.e. sending information from the 360 directly to other internet sources.

Oh…

If you want to argument semantics, this is something the 360 couldn’t do because of the deliberately isolated structure of it’s online services. Every online function of the 360 is handled through Microsoft’s own services.

So yes, it technically *is* taking advantage of the PS3′s capabilities. Just because it’s not BIGGER FASTER HARDER STRONGER doesn’t mean it’s not a good idea. Personally, I think this whole Facebook integration idea is great; social networks are extremely popular, and tapping into something like that is a great way to help build a stronger online community for the PS3.

“spit out something to Facebook,”

To me that just sounds like they are going to do ‘status’ updates posted to Facebook – Status as in presence “X is currently playing Y” or “X has just unlocked Trohpy Z” – I know there are already services available that will update you Twitter status with your Xbox Live status so I wouldn’t be suprised if there were also things already available to put PSN status in Facebook via a facebook app.