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	<title>Comments on: Sony: Our first-party dev is as big as Microsoft and Nintendo&#8217;s combined</title>
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		<title>By: Cort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>judono, now that&#039;s even more silly, surely?

Even if you think that - in complete isolation - the first party line up isn&#039;t game-changing (no pun intended), when compared to its competitors (which is the whole point of the quote and the story) Sony&#039;s existing first-party library is strong and it has the current industry-leading roster for 2009/10.

Or do you think that Microsoft Game Studios and Nintendo have more than five first-party titles a year which everyone wants to play? (Genuine question.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>judono, now that&#8217;s even more silly, surely?</p>
<p>Even if you think that &#8211; in complete isolation &#8211; the first party line up isn&#8217;t game-changing (no pun intended), when compared to its competitors (which is the whole point of the quote and the story) Sony&#8217;s existing first-party library is strong and it has the current industry-leading roster for 2009/10.</p>
<p>Or do you think that Microsoft Game Studios and Nintendo have more than five first-party titles a year which everyone wants to play? (Genuine question.)</p>
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		<title>By: judono</title>
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		<dc:creator>judono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ll start beleiving that as soon as see more than five first party titles people actualy want to play a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll start beleiving that as soon as see more than five first party titles people actualy want to play a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Cort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You see, our beloved PS3 console actually entirely depends upon 1st party software in the West...&gt;&quot;

Entirely?  What silly rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You see, our beloved PS3 console actually entirely depends upon 1st party software in the West&#8230;&gt;&#8221;</p>
<p>Entirely?  What silly rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: SERAPHEMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SERAPHEMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nintendo produces mostly shit.. so maybe they need to go out to get some good stuff. 

How many f&#039;n Mario,Wario games can you make really???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nintendo produces mostly shit.. so maybe they need to go out to get some good stuff. </p>
<p>How many f&#8217;n Mario,Wario games can you make really???</p>
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		<title>By: spanishdudewii</title>
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		<dc:creator>spanishdudewii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony&#039;s parcing words.  Nintendo is the only videogame publisher to internally develop both hardware and software.  Sony and Microsoft have first-party studios, yes, but not in the same way Nintendo does. They each have wholly-owned development houses that answer directly to Sony and Microsoft, but their not interal teams working within their headquarters.
Does Sony own several large first-party studio&#039;s that outnumber the 1,500 or so developers inside Nintendo&#039;s teams?  Probably. But Sony&#039;s a much larger company than Nintendo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony&#8217;s parcing words.  Nintendo is the only videogame publisher to internally develop both hardware and software.  Sony and Microsoft have first-party studios, yes, but not in the same way Nintendo does. They each have wholly-owned development houses that answer directly to Sony and Microsoft, but their not interal teams working within their headquarters.<br />
Does Sony own several large first-party studio&#8217;s that outnumber the 1,500 or so developers inside Nintendo&#8217;s teams?  Probably. But Sony&#8217;s a much larger company than Nintendo.</p>
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		<title>By: G1GAHURTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>G1GAHURTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth at last!

Thanks Professor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth at last!</p>
<p>Thanks Professor.</p>
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		<title>By: Prof Power Glove</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/07/sony-our-first-party-dev-is-as-big-as-microsoft-and-nintendos-combined/comment-page-1/#comment-63117</link>
		<dc:creator>Prof Power Glove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t all work on Eye-pet. Oh the stories I could tell if I dared..

Most of the people from Eight Days/Getaway were initially redistributed onto other projects (Home etc) but then a healthy bunch were then made redundant or left. Actually, wait, that happened before either project was actually canned properly.

Both were huge projects with big budgets and Sony didn&#039;t want to take a risk on them. Now what do Sony London do? You see, our beloved PS3 console actually entirely depends upon 1st party software in the West while Microsoft/Nintendo have 3rd party developers bringing out decent titles too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t all work on Eye-pet. Oh the stories I could tell if I dared..</p>
<p>Most of the people from Eight Days/Getaway were initially redistributed onto other projects (Home etc) but then a healthy bunch were then made redundant or left. Actually, wait, that happened before either project was actually canned properly.</p>
<p>Both were huge projects with big budgets and Sony didn&#8217;t want to take a risk on them. Now what do Sony London do? You see, our beloved PS3 console actually entirely depends upon 1st party software in the West while Microsoft/Nintendo have 3rd party developers bringing out decent titles too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There was that shooty thing. Killsomethingorother.&quot;

And that LittleBigwhatchacallit game.

Motorsomethingorother isn&#039;t that bad either.

Resistance is a bit crap though, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There was that shooty thing. Killsomethingorother.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that LittleBigwhatchacallit game.</p>
<p>Motorsomethingorother isn&#8217;t that bad either.</p>
<p>Resistance is a bit crap though, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Truk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread makes me chuckle. Unsurprisingly, GHz is leading the laughs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread makes me chuckle. Unsurprisingly, GHz is leading the laughs.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was that shooty thing. Killsomethingorother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was that shooty thing. Killsomethingorother.</p>
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		<title>By: Wurider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wurider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the point when these studios don&#039;t put out shit worth buying!!! I mean what is there to brag about really!! MLB:The show is all they have. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the point when these studios don&#8217;t put out shit worth buying!!! I mean what is there to brag about really!! MLB:The show is all they have.</p>
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		<title>By: Cort</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/07/sony-our-first-party-dev-is-as-big-as-microsoft-and-nintendos-combined/comment-page-1/#comment-63076</link>
		<dc:creator>Cort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could have started a new IP or been seconded to another Sony studio.  We all know about the cross-fertilisation between SCE&#039;s developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could have started a new IP or been seconded to another Sony studio.  We all know about the cross-fertilisation between SCE&#8217;s developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Herlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They all work on Eye Pet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They all work on Eye Pet.</p>
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		<title>By: G1GAHURTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>G1GAHURTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Lead Designer that was working on Eight Days...  Where did he go?

What do you do with a guy on £70k pa who no longer has a game to develop?

The Lead Artist, the Senior Producer and the entire coding team that was working on The Getaway...  Where did they all go?

Did they get assigned to a game that already had all of these positions filled?

I&#039;m sure that they&#039;re not just sitting around twiddling their thumbs and getting paid for it.

Oooooo....  It&#039;s a mystery...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Lead Designer that was working on Eight Days&#8230;  Where did he go?</p>
<p>What do you do with a guy on £70k pa who no longer has a game to develop?</p>
<p>The Lead Artist, the Senior Producer and the entire coding team that was working on The Getaway&#8230;  Where did they all go?</p>
<p>Did they get assigned to a game that already had all of these positions filled?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that they&#8217;re not just sitting around twiddling their thumbs and getting paid for it.</p>
<p>Oooooo&#8230;.  It&#8217;s a mystery&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gekidami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gekidami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just canned the games, not the entire studios...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just canned the games, not the entire studios&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: G1GAHURTZ</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/07/sony-our-first-party-dev-is-as-big-as-microsoft-and-nintendos-combined/comment-page-1/#comment-63063</link>
		<dc:creator>G1GAHURTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but where did all of the staff go?

I suppose it&#039;s commendable to can two projects, then move everyone who was working on them to other projects, but I&#039;m thinking that you&#039;ll probably end up with too many staff for your needs.

I know that they shared staff across projects at SCEE, but not everyone, surely...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but where did all of the staff go?</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s commendable to can two projects, then move everyone who was working on them to other projects, but I&#8217;m thinking that you&#8217;ll probably end up with too many staff for your needs.</p>
<p>I know that they shared staff across projects at SCEE, but not everyone, surely&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Garratt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Garratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it was staff cut problems that got The Getaway and Eight Days canned. More that they weren&#039;t the right &quot;sort&quot; of game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it was staff cut problems that got The Getaway and Eight Days canned. More that they weren&#8217;t the right &#8220;sort&#8221; of game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gekidami</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/07/sony-our-first-party-dev-is-as-big-as-microsoft-and-nintendos-combined/comment-page-1/#comment-63060</link>
		<dc:creator>Gekidami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony have 3 more first party studios then both MS and Nintendo combined to be exact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony have 3 more first party studios then both MS and Nintendo combined to be exact.</p>
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		<title>By: G1GAHURTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>G1GAHURTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/searches net.

Seems like you&#039;re right Cort, but it&#039;s strange that they would can The Getaway and Eight Days, then lay off 8000 staff and that none of those would be from SCEE...

I must have just assumed that they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/searches net.</p>
<p>Seems like you&#8217;re right Cort, but it&#8217;s strange that they would can The Getaway and Eight Days, then lay off 8000 staff and that none of those would be from SCEE&#8230;</p>
<p>I must have just assumed that they were.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to read some statements from Aaron Greenberg,  Chris Lewis and David Yarnton. :)

See HoC? &lt;i&gt;Balance&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to read some statements from Aaron Greenberg,  Chris Lewis and David Yarnton. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>See HoC? <i>Balance</i></p>
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		<title>By: Doomsayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doomsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dick is bigger than yours.... gotta love sony :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dick is bigger than yours&#8230;. gotta love sony <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G1GA, I&#039;m pretty sure SCE escaped Sir Howard&#039;s scythe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G1GA, I&#8217;m pretty sure SCE escaped Sir Howard&#8217;s scythe.</p>
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		<title>By: Herlock</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2009/04/07/sony-our-first-party-dev-is-as-big-as-microsoft-and-nintendos-combined/comment-page-1/#comment-63051</link>
		<dc:creator>Herlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why i love Sony, it&#039;s the best and the biggest Studio in video game industry, but in Europe we like to have your Japan game TOO, all og them like WKS, Demon&#039;s Souls, Afrika etc...and push Sega for Kenzan et Yakuza III dammit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why i love Sony, it&#8217;s the best and the biggest Studio in video game industry, but in Europe we like to have your Japan game TOO, all og them like WKS, Demon&#8217;s Souls, Afrika etc&#8230;and push Sega for Kenzan et Yakuza III dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter. MS would just shut down another Ensemble or something!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter. MS would just shut down another Ensemble or something!</p>
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		<title>By: G1GAHURTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>G1GAHURTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think...

It would have been EVEN BIGGER if the didn&#039;t just lay off all those staff!!</description>
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<p>It would have been EVEN BIGGER if the didn&#8217;t just lay off all those staff!!</p>
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