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Sony: MAG “only possible on PS3,” is an “iteration of SOCOM” [Update]

Friday, 3rd April 2009 10:17 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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SCEA hardware marketing boss John Koller has claimed that upcoming multiplayer shooter MAG can only be built on PS3.

“MAG is a 256 online-player game which is spectacular,” he said, talking to VG247 at GDC last week.

“If you look at that competitively, it’s something that’s only possible on PS3. The processor speed, the ability of PS3 to showcase 256 players at any given time, and their actions.”

Koller went on to detail the Zipper Interactive game’s concept.

“It’s basically like an iteration of SOCOM, where you’re maybe commanding the SEALs, and someone else has the Rangers, and the Green Berets, and so on,” he said.

MAG was Sony’s “big” announcement at the end of its 2008 E3 press conference.

A movie was shown of the title, featuring soldiers, vehicles and lots and lots of guns.

It’s planned for release late this year.

Update: John Koller’s sent us the following statement as clarification to the comments made in this story:

“I wanted to clarify my comment as the broader point I was making is that our biggest franchises and our best developers from PlayStation 2 are continuing to transition to PlayStation 3, which will help spur PlayStation 2 fans to move toward next-gen gaming on PS3. Zipper Interactive is best known for its great work on the SOCOM franchise, and they’re building on their development experience to create a brand new IP in MAG. MAG is not a sequel to nor built upon SOCOM, and when the title launches this fall, PS3 owners will be able to experience intense 256-player combat, which is something that’s never been available on console before.”

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  1. Grimrita

    Erm, I am sure that the PC could more then match this turd of a console in terms of ability and online numbers. Either way, its not going to make me rush out and buy a PS3.

    Its great to shout about the fact you can have 256 players in this game but its all kind of pointless if the game is crap.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. FeaturePreacher

    This would be as hilarious as the “big announcement” of the ps2 price cut if this game turned out to be a real-time strategy game.

    #2 5 years ago
  3. davidkenobi

    MAG was Sony’s “big” announcement at the end of its 2008 E3 press conference.

    And one year later…still nothing. Remember me when GT5 was announced . :)

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Tonka

    OMG, the PS3 really is shit; isn’t it?

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Shatner

    You need to update your link Tonka. Your copycat laziness is quite out of date.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. G1GAHURTZ

    FAIL

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Newbie101

    I think this could be epic. I’m not saying it can’t be done on another console/PC but why hasn’t it been done on the PC yet then?

    The last SOCOM was a turd which worries me but 256 players??!?!?!? Sounds awesome, please get it right I need something to play on my PS3.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Shatner

    I know G1GA. But if I’d said that then Tonka might not have understood WHY it was FAIL. I’m helpful like that, see?

    Nice to see you in a Sony topic again G1GA, I look forward to your balanced and constructive yet-in-no-way-blatantly-antagonistic-lol input!

    #8 5 years ago
  9. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, but if the game is turd, how is having more players going to save it?

    I’ve played COD4 on PC with up to 64 players and it’s not much different to playing with less.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Gekidami

    Zipper didnt make the last Socom Newbie101, they’ve been working on this instead.

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Tonka

    $hatner: Hitlerisms on the internet are so done. I stick to the old ways.

    /something about contradictions and disappearing in them

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Michael O'Connor

    Tonka, GIG, as stated before, there’s a greasemonkey hack on the forums that you can use to block certain users.

    Try it. This place becomes quite liberating once you do. <3

    #12 5 years ago
  13. Shatner

    The last SOCOM game got a pretty poor reception and had network issues aplenty. Hopefully Sony first-parties are sharing their libraries and experience so that all games can benefit from improved performance. It also can’t hurt that something like Insomniac’s Project Nocturne is around – especially given their proven ability with handling large numbers in online play.

    Tonka, I’m bringing Hitlerism’s back. Just like Jay did with “Porchmonkey”. :)

    LOL I can’t believe that “I’m unable to follow my own advice O’conner” is still dishing out ‘advice’ that he himself is unable to follow. Poor chap!

    There’s a word for that sort of behaviour isn’t there? Yes. I’m sure there is. I wonder what it could be? :D

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Tonka

    I never understood the heart smily. If you rotate it in the same way as a smily face it becomes an ass.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Gekidami

    The fanboys are indeed rampant in this comments section arnt they…

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Shatner

    Tonka, if you think about what you just said about heart smileys, I believe you’ll understand it makes perfect sense.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Newbie101

    Cheers Gekidami. How no-one is intrigued by 256 player online battles is beyond me…..

    #17 5 years ago
  18. G1GAHURTZ

    Thanks Michael.

    I don’t bother reading half the crap he writes anyway.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. Redh3lix

    Given all the press regarding MAG, I get the impression that Sony are making this game JUST to prove a point that the PS3 can handle 256 players simultaneously, with absolutely no mention of the actual gameplay and it’s features. If it played like Battlefield 2 with 256 players, now THAT would be an achievement.

    I doubt I’ll be buying this.

    #19 5 years ago
  20. DrDamn

    I think the key part of this story is the guys job title … SCEA hardware *marketing* boss.

    Quite interested to see how this turns out. The PS3 SOCOM title was alright from the beta but didn’t have great controls, a few nice ideas though.

    #20 5 years ago
  21. Retroid

    I think only reasonably modern hardware with dedicated servers could manage this game.

    ….

    Anything but the Wii, then!

    #21 5 years ago
  22. B3yond

    When will PC gamers just shut-up and admit that the PS3 is simply awesome for games such as these. Not only Graphically but Technically as well. I mean really now, how many people around the world owns a PC that can run Crysis at maximum settings? Not many… Don’t even get me started on the Xbox 360. It has reached it’s limit, not only with on-line play, but Technically too. Sigh. Is it that difficult to admit that the Playstation 3 is a magnificent piece of hardware?

    #22 5 years ago
  23. G1GAHURTZ

    SDF FTW!!!

    #23 5 years ago
  24. Shatner

    MDF UNITE!

    #24 5 years ago
  25. wz

    I just understood how fanaticism works. It’s wishing something to be true, really much.

    #25 5 years ago
  26. get2sammyb

    The game seriously has some potential. I hope it’s shown off in more detail at E3. I’m more interested in God Of War III, Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2 though.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. Tiger Walts

    A Cloud computing system could support a few thousand players.

    /runs

    #27 5 years ago
  28. Samoan Spider

    The problem we’re seeing is that the PS3 has some great titles announced for it. But thats just it, they seem to be announced, and then in a perpetual development cycle.
    I’ve played PC games hacked to take a massive number of players, and as someone else says, you don’t notice the difference much because the space has to be so much bigger to accept that many people. By which time its becomes a waste of time, and not much fun!
    I’m afraid my PS3 will not be switched on for some time to come it would seem. Great machine, but simply doesn’t have the catalogue of the 360, the online capabilities are a long way behind (explains why its free) and all AAA multiplat titles seem to end up FUBAR!

    /Flame suit activated

    #28 5 years ago
  29. El_MUERkO

    clouds don’t support anything, anyone that’s tried to put anything on a cloud would know that!

    #29 5 years ago
  30. G1GAHURTZ

    Here they come!

    #30 5 years ago
  31. Samoan Spider

    ‘clouds don’t support anything, anyone that’s tried to put anything on a cloud would know that!’
    lol

    #31 5 years ago
  32. Retroid

    “wz said: I just understood how fanaticism works. It’s wishing something to be true, really much.”

    Yup. And probably having a bit of a crywank while writing posts of forums about THE TRUTH and asking WHY WON’T PEOPLE ADMIT IT.

    #32 5 years ago
  33. get2sammyb

    @Samoan Spider: It’s your fault your Playstation 3 is not getting turned on, not the Sony or the consoles. In the past 12 months Sony have delivered us with – Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2, among others which don’t spring to mind. At least one of those games (LittlebigPlanet) is majorly original, and should, in the very least, have you switching on your console.

    Retail releases aside: the PSN has provided – Wipeout HD, Noby Noby Boy, Flower, echochrome, Pixeljunk Eden, and there are many more.

    As far as multiplatform releases go — the only game that was significantly inferior (and my significant I mean, you don’t have to pause the video and compare pixels) to the 360 is Fallout 3. I daresay there are a couple of others you can churn out back at me, but I still found playing Fallout 3 an enjoyable experience — even though I played the “vastly inferior” PS3 version.

    I guess the point I’m trying to make is – the owner decides whether he wants to make his system worthwhile. I have a DS upstairs that never gets switched on – I could pretend there are no DS games but I know this is not true. The reason it doesn’t get switched on is because I don’t CHOOSE to buy games for the platform.

    To conclude, the PS3 has an excellent game catalogue – the 25 games stored on my harddrive plus the 32 retail games on my shelf totally disagree with your sentiment. If you’re not interested in those games, it doesn’t make them any less available – if you get what I mean.

    #33 5 years ago
  34. Grimrita

    B3yond I bet there are more PC gamers around the world who do own a PC able to play Crysis then there are actual PS3 owners.

    Compared to the xboxes lame peer 2 peer crap, yes the PS3 far out weighs it but lets face it, the xbox is hardly advanced.

    I would rather spend the £300 its costs for a PS3 on a decent graphics card and extra RAM that will last a good 3-4 years and be able to play Crysis at full whack.

    Personally, I wouldnt use the ’256 players’ a selling point for any game because there is no guarantee that you will get that many online playing it!

    #34 5 years ago
  35. G1GAHURTZ

    3-4 years!

    LOL

    That’s funny.

    #35 5 years ago
  36. absolutezero

    Its also true.

    Jesus you really are a fucking child. Where the hell is Mr DaMan?

    #36 5 years ago
  37. G1GAHURTZ

    Absolute zero? Is that your IQ?

    You try playing Crysis with a 6800GT and see how nice it looks.

    The utter stupidity in the world these days really is reaching epic proportions…

    #37 5 years ago
  38. Whizzo

    I wish Sony would bite the bullet and do Planetside 2.

    #38 5 years ago
  39. phatb0y

    Two reasons this reeks of FAIL.

    i) SOCOM influence.

    ii) 256 players.

    Large scale multiplayer in an FPS doesn’t work. You can patch out glitches and exploits, but you can’t patch out human nature.

    The only way this could work is if you had organised guild/clan games. It worked in Planetside, but the game was just a seesaw. Log in, take territory, log out, lose territory, log in, re-take territory, rinse ‘n’ repeat. Sure, its fun for a while, but it all got a bit Hamburger Hill.

    Clans (hate that word!) don’t seem to work on consoles in my eyes. I don’t know why. They just don’t. I don’t know if thats just a reflection on me getting older or the more ‘casual’ attitude on consoles, but the enthusiasm just isn’t there.

    I think this will just devolve into a 256 player mong shower.

    If it ever sees the light of day.

    #39 5 years ago
  40. Superfrog

    Why do we have to read/watch/listen to this ‘only possible on PS3′ crap in line with every single upcoming release of SCE-published exclusive titles? It’s getting so old.

    #40 5 years ago
  41. SlayerGT

    I played Joint OPs till they shut the server down. If this is as good or better, I’ll be happy. Zipper is a great Dev. Optimistic I am.

    #41 5 years ago
  42. DaMan

    absolutezero, your screenname goes well together with your insightful and thought provoking comments.

    #42 5 years ago
  43. G1GAHURTZ

    Clans (hate that word!) don’t seem to work on consoles in my eyes. I don’t know why. They just don’t. I don’t know if thats just a reflection on me getting older or the more ‘casual’ attitude on consoles, but the enthusiasm just isn’t there.

    You get some pretty serious clans on console these days. I play in a COD4 clan, and we’ve developed a really strong level of team work. I’ve also played with clans on the console R6 Vegas and other 360 shooters.

    I think many console clans and clan members are probably PC players who’ve just moved onto console anyway.

    #43 5 years ago
  44. G1GAHURTZ

    Oh dear…

    #44 5 years ago
  45. ElfShotTheFood

    “I’m not saying it can’t be done on another console/PC but why hasn’t it been done on the PC yet then?”

    Planetside?

    #45 5 years ago
  46. Newbie101

    Planetside was an MMO so it cant really be compared :).

    #46 5 years ago
  47. phatb0y

    Yeah, it can. FPS mechanics, same as Neocron. It may not be as ‘twitch’ as a traditional FPS but the principle is the same.

    Planetside is still just a very large-scale FPS at heart.

    #47 5 years ago
  48. Newbie101

    I disagree. Planetside wants you to think it’s an online FPS and while, yes, it does have that camera angle :), its not a great example tbh….

    #48 5 years ago
  49. No_PUDding

    I am excited for it…. Doesn’t sound like I am allowed to be though.

    #49 5 years ago
  50. SERAPHEMZ

    I am too, all the people above talking crap about a game that we know little about are idiots. Its like talking crap about Alan Wake, a game that ‘they’ are all excited about, when its only been shown him walking around with a flashlight.

    On paper both games look good, lets just wait and see before we pass judgement.

    #50 5 years ago
  51. theevilaires

    Michael O’Connor said:

    Tonka, GIG, as stated before, there’s a greasemonkey hack on the forums that you can use to block certain users.

    Try it. This place becomes quite liberating once you do. <3

    O,connor you have officially been placed in the hall of P.A.B. (pussy ass bitch) fame. The fact that this site lets gamers from all platform or console user base state their opinion on gaming matters without being banned is “LIBERATING”. Its not liberating when assholes like you try to get others censored because they have a different opinion.

    Your opinions aren’t facts O’connor, at least not 100% of the time. Hell not even 50% but do you see anyone else screaming censor O’connor, No. Grow up dude you are a little sour puss.

    As far as shatner goes hes only stating his opinion.If you don’t like it don’t read it. Stop spreading your hate. This site has a lot of smart people posting here for everyone to know what is mostly true and what is mostly a fanboy rant. Let them decide for themselves who to ignore.

    With that said this site is a good place for all gamers of every platform and the people who post here are great and funny :P Mag will probably be ok, but please don’t judge it by screen shots alone. The original team of the ps2 socoms are behind this and it should be at least half decent. P.S. sorry for the long rant :P

    #51 5 years ago
  52. SERAPHEMZ

    Right on evil. If anyone should be banned it should be Michael and his “i know more than you do” posts.

    #52 5 years ago
  53. theevilaires

    No he shouldn’t be banned Seraphemz. He may be a hot head,( he is irish after all :P ) but O’connor is a smart guy. He does bring some great points to these awesome radical cowabunga debates we all have :P

    #53 5 years ago
  54. Gamoc

    I would like to point out that Socom Confrontation is, in fact, awesome now that it’s been patched. I got it the day it was released in the UK and it’s really, really fun. Go get it. GO!

    #54 5 years ago
  55. Psychotext

    Patched since EG gave it a 5?

    #55 5 years ago
  56. Gamoc

    I don’t know, when did they give it a 5?

    If you liked playing Socom online on the PS2, you’ll like Confrontation.

    #56 5 years ago
  57. SERAPHEMZ

    Evil – IF anyone should be… not that he SHOULD or anyone else for that matter…

    I also play SOCOM and I freakin love the game. There is no other online game like it. BUT…..it does need work.
    It did have MAJOR issues right when it came out, but the patches have help. The game is only getting better.

    Either way, it sucks that MAG is getting compared to SOCOM Confrontation.just because ZIPPER made the first ones.

    Zipper had nothing to do with Confrontation and im sure that MAG will be a great game.

    #57 5 years ago
  58. Psychotext

    16th March apparently.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/socom-confrontation-review

    I bought the game with the headset, kept the headset and dumped the game.

    #58 5 years ago
  59. Gamoc

    Heh. Why didn’t you just, you know, buy the headset if you were going to ignore the game? That saves you money, after all…

    I love the game. It could do with a few more maps, but it’s good, tactical fun.

    #59 5 years ago
  60. Gamoc

    http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/socomconfrontation?q=socom%20confrontation

    Look at Metacritic’s 8-ish reviews. The metascore is pulled down by the pre-patched US release version, though, which is unfortunate.

    #60 5 years ago
  61. SERAPHEMZ

    I dont want to turn this into the SOCOM Confrontation defense posts, but I just read the review, and it looks like this guy sucked at the game and thats why he hated.

    Complains about the controls, which havent really changed.

    Complains about the objectives, and not being able to find them.

    Complains about headshots and Hardcore gamers….lol..

    #61 5 years ago
  62. Psychotext

    Don’t get me wrong, I tried it. I just have a large backlog of significantly better games to be getting through.

    Besides, I only paid £32 for the game with the headset and got £15 for the game. I don’t think the headset is much cheaper than that anyway.

    #62 5 years ago
  63. SERAPHEMZ

    PT – the headset is worth the money. Its the perfect hd for PS3, and i even find myself using it on my cell phone.

    #63 5 years ago
  64. Gamoc

    Headset’s £25, so you came off better.

    #64 5 years ago
  65. theevilaires

    Socom Confrontation is good, but the gaming media (with the rage of angry jealous xbots)destroyed its image because it came out with too many annoyances that were later patched to make the game awesome in its genre.

    The bundled headset with the game is a must buy. I recommend the download because it takes up less space on the ps3 HDD than the actual disc install. Also its just great to go from a disc base PS3 game to a full ps3 game on your HDD (you don’t have to get up and change the disc :P ).

    I wish sony would start bundling that headset with PS3′s because not everyone has a mic in Killzone 2 and that sucks.

    #65 5 years ago
  66. SERAPHEMZ

    …dont let Michael hear you saying that “you are too lazy to get up and change disks..”

    #66 5 years ago
  67. theevilaires

    Its not a lazy thing its a convenient thing that lets you jump back into some great multiplayer action i.e. LBP to Warhawk to Burnout Paradise to Tekken5 online. Thats four different type of games with the press of a button.

    Plus every one knows PS3 owners are in top physical shape while X-bots are fat slobs :P

    http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/18/gamer%20chick.jpg

    #67 5 years ago
  68. SERAPHEMZ

    wasnt she the hottest Halo fan or something??

    cool shirt btw…lol

    #68 5 years ago
  69. theevilaires

    No, I think that was her twin sister Seraphemz :P

    #69 5 years ago
  70. Shatner

    WOULD!

    #70 5 years ago
  71. theevilaires

    would what shatner?! please dont say you “WOULD”, please for the sake of Kuturagi and the Playstation family. :P

    #71 5 years ago
  72. No_PUDding

    Yeah, I don’t think there is anything wrong with being excited about it.

    Hell, we know less about Alan Wake for example. If this is BF2/Socom with RPG elements the director mentioned in the Gamespot interview, then I am very anxious to see how this game will turn out.

    More than anything I am excited about the date.

    #72 5 years ago
  73. Hatchetforce

    If a game is good then it is good regardless of the platform. That said, there are two mulligans on that remark. First, a game could sometimes be better on either a different platform or it could be better if the idiotic necessity to make the PS3 and 360 versions the same was not in place.

    Second, Gears of War II Multiplayer was one huge broken mess when it came out. It took far longer to get the first patch for it than did SOCOM. Yet Gears II was given a pass by reviewers. It may have been mentioned off the cuff but half the game being broken wasn’t enough to push most review scores below a 9. Does that seem equal? No.

    #73 5 years ago
  74. Gamoc

    Socom Confrontation didn’t have any single player, though, Gears 2 did.

    #74 5 years ago
  75. Hatchetforce

    Then if the SP in Gears 2 was absolutely perfect, give it a 75.

    #75 5 years ago
  76. Patrick Garratt

    Just added an extra comment we were sent by SCEA last night.

    #76 5 years ago
  77. Gekidami

    John Koller; he’s watching us.

    Drop us a comment John!

    #77 5 years ago
  78. Monk

    people
    MAG is FPS , not TPS !!

    you can see form this source, they release some
    picture for the Game

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/37044807@N02/sets/72157616227223753/

    :)

    #78 5 years ago
  79. Monk

    from *

    -__-”

    #79 5 years ago