Comments on: GDC: Gran Turismo 5′s “all platforms” release timing will depend on “what makes the most sense,” says Koller http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:05:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: dutch46 http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-62671 dutch46 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:44:25 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-62671 I was disappointed with Prologue. I was turned on to a copy of F1 Championship Edition when the PS3 was first released and got spoiled, I guess. The one thing that bothered me more than anything else about Prologue was the unrealistic physics of the cars. No matter how stiff I made the suspension, every car still handled like I was driving a limo. That and the fact that there were so few tracks--and the facilities they did feature were some of my least favorites. When the full version is released, I'll be hanging out at the Nurbergring. If you like to race clean, come on down I was disappointed with Prologue. I was turned on to a copy of F1 Championship Edition when the PS3 was first released and got spoiled, I guess.

The one thing that bothered me more than anything else about Prologue was the unrealistic physics of the cars. No matter how stiff I made the suspension, every car still handled like I was driving a limo. That and the fact that there were so few tracks–and the facilities they did feature were some of my least favorites.

When the full version is released, I’ll be hanging out at the Nurbergring. If you like to race clean, come on down

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61277 Psychotext Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:49:41 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61277 I've not bought GT5:Prologue, but I'll certainly be buying GT5 whenever it comes out. I’ve not bought GT5:Prologue, but I’ll certainly be buying GT5 whenever it comes out.

]]> By: Syrok http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61276 Syrok Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:47:39 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61276 It's not like GT5P has much soul. :) It’s not like GT5P has much soul. :)

]]> By: Retroid http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61271 Retroid Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:29:27 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61271 I keep meaning to pick up GT5P, should be about a tenner now, shouldn't it? As for Forza, I've got both (picked them up for pennies) and I've just not been able to get into them. They seem a bit soulless to me. @TEA: I didn't care about the Halo 3 beta and bought Crackdown itself about a year after the beta offer ended, so that proves how much I cared about that! :D I keep meaning to pick up GT5P, should be about a tenner now, shouldn’t it?

As for Forza, I’ve got both (picked them up for pennies) and I’ve just not been able to get into them. They seem a bit soulless to me.

@TEA: I didn’t care about the Halo 3 beta and bought Crackdown itself about a year after the beta offer ended, so that proves how much I cared about that! :D

]]> By: crackdude http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61268 crackdude Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:10:06 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61268 All this discussion is so meaningless. I prefer the way Forza handles, so it's a no brainer to me. Although GT5P looks better, I also prefer having a complete and functional and great game right now than waiting all this time. Also, I've lost confidence on this development team, since I bought a PSP before it even launched in my country just so that I could play GT4 on launch. And after like 4 years, my PSP has already broke and I really don't give a shit because the only game I really wanted never came out. All this discussion is so meaningless. I prefer the way Forza handles, so it’s a no brainer to me. Although GT5P looks better, I also prefer having a complete and functional and great game right now than waiting all this time.
Also, I’ve lost confidence on this development team, since I bought a PSP before it even launched in my country just so that I could play GT4 on launch. And after like 4 years, my PSP has already broke and I really don’t give a shit because the only game I really wanted never came out.

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61254 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:17:51 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61254 you noob you noob

]]> By: wz http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61251 wz Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:05:23 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61251 But then, based on a demo showcasing what the final product will look like, GT5 will be utter crapzorz. XBOX 360 FTW! IT'S CHEAPER TOO. But then, based on a demo showcasing what the final product will look like, GT5 will be utter crapzorz. XBOX 360 FTW! IT’S CHEAPER TOO.

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61247 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:54:10 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61247 Its a fucking glorified demo STFU Syrok and kill the topic. When the full game releases and it still has these problems then speak. I pegged you to be smart enough to see the difference Syrok. Now you're just sounding like a spoiled brat. Its a fucking glorified demo STFU Syrok and kill the topic. When the full game releases and it still has these problems then speak. I pegged you to be smart enough to see the difference Syrok. Now you’re just sounding like a spoiled brat.

]]> By: Syrok http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61245 Syrok Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:44:29 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61245 What about the stuttering in the replays? What about the stuttering in the replays?

]]> By: DS1086 http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61241 DS1086 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:15:47 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61241 @DrDamn The ONLY time tearing occurs in GT5P is at Eiger Nordwand, presumably because of the massive amounts of scenery around the track. The tearing is both rare and very brief. I would think the tearing will be entirely eradicated for the realease of the full game. There is never any tearing on any of the other tracks, no matter how busy the screen gets. Maybe if it was only running at 720p it would make 360 owners feel slightly less insecure about their console of choice. The fact is, the best looking, most realistic racing game is a PS3 exclusive. Deal with it. :P @DrDamn
The ONLY time tearing occurs in GT5P is at Eiger Nordwand, presumably because of the massive amounts of scenery around the track. The tearing is both rare and very brief. I would think the tearing will be entirely eradicated for the realease of the full game. There is never any tearing on any of the other tracks, no matter how busy the screen gets. Maybe if it was only running at 720p it would make 360 owners feel slightly less insecure about their console of choice. The fact is, the best looking, most realistic racing game is a PS3 exclusive. Deal with it. :P

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61227 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:40:08 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61227 yea that stuff is true cort but i really never pay attention to that personally. Maybe they notice those mistakes and are trying to make more accurate adjustments. We can only hope right. I just hope with all this time and the processing power of the PS3 they are making one hell of a racing sim that will please everyone who loves games period. To be honest i'm really looking forward to the pic capture the most like they had in GT4 and Wipeout HD :P yea that stuff is true cort but i really never pay attention to that personally. Maybe they notice those mistakes and are trying to make more accurate adjustments. We can only hope right. I just hope with all this time and the processing power of the PS3 they are making one hell of a racing sim that will please everyone who loves games period. To be honest i’m really looking forward to the pic capture the most like they had in GT4 and Wipeout HD :P

]]> By: Cort http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61224 Cort Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:23:52 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61224 But it isn't authentic to drive at 150mph, peer out the window at the passing scenery and feel like you're doing 15mph. It also isn't authentic to have your tires roaring and screeching when going round a corner at 20mph in a four wheel drive car with high downforce. But it isn’t authentic to drive at 150mph, peer out the window at the passing scenery and feel like you’re doing 15mph. It also isn’t authentic to have your tires roaring and screeching when going round a corner at 20mph in a four wheel drive car with high downforce.

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61219 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:10:27 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61219 Gran Turismo isn't all about the speed. Its about the authenticity feel of the cars to their real counterparts (hench racing SIM). If you want high octane speed then buy NFS. If you want a nice driving simulation on real racing tracks from around the world then GT5 is your game. Gran Turismo isn’t all about the speed. Its about the authenticity feel of the cars to their real counterparts (hench racing SIM). If you want high octane speed then buy NFS. If you want a nice driving simulation on real racing tracks from around the world then GT5 is your game.

]]> By: Cort http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61210 Cort Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:41:19 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61210 "Maybe they even update the smoke effects and stop the tires from squealing in every corner no matter how slow you go." Add to that the zero sense of speed when you are tanking it. “Maybe they even update the smoke effects and stop the tires from squealing in every corner no matter how slow you go.”

Add to that the zero sense of speed when you are tanking it.

]]> By: SERAPHEMZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61196 SERAPHEMZ Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:04:12 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61196 LOL !! LOL !!

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61190 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:54:37 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61190 I already have a 60gb and a 20gb ps3. I went to china town to pick up the last known (to me) original 60gb ps3 in the wild. The guy wanted $1000 for it. I got him down to $900 but then said fuck it cause I know you guys weren't going to post 1000 comments. I'll send you a PSN card though for debating/(arguing) with O'Connor :P I already have a 60gb and a 20gb ps3. I went to china town to pick up the last known (to me) original 60gb ps3 in the wild. The guy wanted $1000 for it. I got him down to $900 but then said fuck it cause I know you guys weren’t going to post 1000 comments. I’ll send you a PSN card though for debating/(arguing) with O’Connor :P

]]> By: SERAPHEMZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61188 SERAPHEMZ Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:44:14 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61188 theevil - did you ever get your 60gig PS3? theevil – did you ever get your 60gig PS3?

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61186 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:40:19 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61186 I didn't mentioned Forza first. Someone mentioned how two iterations of Forza would be out this generation before GT5. In my opinion Forza's quality isn't better than Gran Turismo that's why its taking longer to release. That's what i meant. I'm not saying Forza isn't a great racing game. I didn’t mentioned Forza first. Someone mentioned how two iterations of Forza would be out this generation before GT5. In my opinion Forza’s quality isn’t better than Gran Turismo that’s why its taking longer to release. That’s what i meant. I’m not saying Forza isn’t a great racing game.

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61184 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:33:31 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61184 I agree with you giga i could spend hours in GT5 on the wheel with the new cockpit view also. As regard to the technical,scheduling,and licencing issues they could very well be a factor. Those cars are hand drawn. Adding cockpit views to all of the 500 plus cars is not an easy task. As an artist myself i understand the need to take my time and perfect my work so im satisfied with the "million times check over for flaws" inspection i do for all my art work. This is one of Sony's power house franchise that really needs to show what the PS3 can do beyond Killzone. Sony knows what they are doing. They know they need every aspect of this game to be flawless. GT5P was only a test for technical problems like online latency and other stuff obviously. I know forza and gt5 are both racing games, but only one of them hold the title for the best racing sim on console ever. I agree with you giga i could spend hours in GT5 on the wheel with the new cockpit view also. As regard to the technical,scheduling,and licencing issues they could very well be a factor. Those cars are hand drawn. Adding cockpit views to all of the 500 plus cars is not an easy task. As an artist myself i understand the need to take my time and perfect my work so im satisfied with the “million times check over for flaws” inspection i do for all my art work.

This is one of Sony’s power house franchise that really needs to show what the PS3 can do beyond Killzone. Sony knows what they are doing. They know they need every aspect of this game to be flawless. GT5P was only a test for technical problems like online latency and other stuff obviously.

I know forza and gt5 are both racing games, but only one of them hold the title for the best racing sim on console ever.

]]> By: lelik http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61179 lelik Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:21:55 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61179 if you mention forza in a gran turismo news post, you are a fanboy. it's as simple as that. i'll wait as long as it takes to get the best GT possible. if you mention forza in a gran turismo news post, you are a fanboy. it’s as simple as that. i’ll wait as long as it takes to get the best GT possible.

]]> By: SERAPHEMZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61169 SERAPHEMZ Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:49:35 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61169 Im looking forward to the PSP version !! that would be a great game to have to kill time at work... Im looking forward to the PSP version !! that would be a great game to have to kill time at work…

]]> By: G1GAHURTZ http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61168 G1GAHURTZ Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:47:38 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61168 Actually TEA, after shooters, most of my gaming is taken up by racers. I've even got the wireless wheel and everything! I'd get a wheel for the PS3 if GT was worth it, too... Call me sad if you want, but I'd spend hours on my wheel driving around in 1080p cars with fully modelled interiors, all in 60Hz. Anyway, I was genuinely wondering why they are taking so long. It's a game that they've made before, so theoretically, it should just be a case of doing things a little bigger and a little better... Prologue is there, so they've proven that they can do it, so why the long delay...? Is it a technical problem? Bad scheduling? licencing issues? Quality issues? Or what...? I'm genuinely interested. Actually TEA, after shooters, most of my gaming is taken up by racers. I’ve even got the wireless wheel and everything!

I’d get a wheel for the PS3 if GT was worth it, too…

Call me sad if you want, but I’d spend hours on my wheel driving around in 1080p cars with fully modelled interiors, all in 60Hz.

Anyway, I was genuinely wondering why they are taking so long.

It’s a game that they’ve made before, so theoretically, it should just be a case of doing things a little bigger and a little better…

Prologue is there, so they’ve proven that they can do it, so why the long delay…?

Is it a technical problem? Bad scheduling? licencing issues? Quality issues? Or what…?

I’m genuinely interested.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61164 Psychotext Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:19:59 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61164 I could do specifics, but I don't want to confuse anyone. I could do specifics, but I don’t want to confuse anyone.

]]> By: Shatner http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61162 Shatner Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:12:25 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61162 Woah, PT trying the "I know, I'll say something obtuse" tactic. Good work! Woah, PT trying the “I know, I’ll say something obtuse” tactic.

Good work!

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61160 Psychotext Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:04:19 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61160 Forza is no Gran Turismo? That's strange as they have a lot in common. Forza is no Gran Turismo? That’s strange as they have a lot in common.

]]> By: theevilaires http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61152 theevilaires Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:33:25 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61152 people complain because they have no life and are miserable. the next time one of you assholes complain about a dev team taking their time to perfect a proven franchise take a look at your multi million dollar selling game. They are going for 60fps @ 1080p with possible damage physics. Forza is no Gran Turismo. Giga what the hell are you talking about whats taking them so long. You don't even own a PS3. Whats taking them so long with Alan Wake? You see where i'm coming from. Sorry to put you on the spot but i know you're not getting a PS3 just for GT5. @ Retroid maybe M$ will make you pay for another $60 game to be invited in the next halo beta. people complain because they have no life and are miserable. the next time one of you assholes complain about a dev team taking their time to perfect a proven franchise take a look at your multi million dollar selling game. They are going for 60fps @ 1080p with possible damage physics. Forza is no Gran Turismo.

Giga what the hell are you talking about whats taking them so long. You don’t even own a PS3. Whats taking them so long with Alan Wake? You see where i’m coming from. Sorry to put you on the spot but i know you’re not getting a PS3 just for GT5.

@ Retroid maybe M$ will make you pay for another $60 game to be invited in the next halo beta.

]]> By: Retroid http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61103 Retroid Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:21:55 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61103 Perhaps they could release another $40 demo to fund further development? ^___^ Perhaps they could release another $40 demo to fund further development? ^___^

]]> By: DrDamn http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61100 DrDamn Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:14:48 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61100 @Newbie101 It simply should have been released by now surely? This is a big PS franchise and an important release for the platform. There is only a certain amount of "it's ready when it's ready" that holds before you start questioning the management of the title. Forza will be on it's second iteration this generation - it's a hugely accomplished series with some significant advantages over the last GT games. Why are they able to do this when Polyphony can't even commit to a release date? The other point I'd make is that in the time taken goal posts have moved. If the time has been used to properly address some of these - a comprehensive online system, bumper car physics and damage model to name a few - then it could be time well spent. We don't know what they have done in this area yet though - we know it WAS amazing - they need to up their game though because times and expectations have moved on. @Newbie101
It simply should have been released by now surely? This is a big PS franchise and an important release for the platform. There is only a certain amount of “it’s ready when it’s ready” that holds before you start questioning the management of the title. Forza will be on it’s second iteration this generation – it’s a hugely accomplished series with some significant advantages over the last GT games. Why are they able to do this when Polyphony can’t even commit to a release date?

The other point I’d make is that in the time taken goal posts have moved. If the time has been used to properly address some of these – a comprehensive online system, bumper car physics and damage model to name a few – then it could be time well spent. We don’t know what they have done in this area yet though – we know it WAS amazing – they need to up their game though because times and expectations have moved on.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61096 Psychotext Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:05:36 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61096 People complain because they want it... sooner rather than later if possible. People complain because they want it… sooner rather than later if possible.

]]> By: Gekidami http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/30/gdc-koller-gt5s-all-platforms-release-timing-will-depend-on-what-makes-the-most-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-61095 Gekidami Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:05:18 +0000 http://www.vg247.com/?p=27778#comment-61095 I bet licencing for every car isnt helping... I bet licencing for every car isnt helping…

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