Comments on: Co-op patch for Killzone 2? “No plans,” says Sony

By: Spiral

Spiral — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:17:12 +0000

You’d have been better off with the doorknob.

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:01:39 +0000

I couldn’t care less about CoOp!
Played “Halo 3″ and “Gears of War” CoOp, but was bored soon. I very much preferred the single-player experiences of those two games. So, CoOp is definitely not my cup of tea!
My guess is that a lot of gamers just play CoOp because they are achievement-hunters/whores who want the reach 100% completion scores.

By: theevilaires

theevilaires — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:48:36 +0000

if thats another name for your mom then yes

By: Spiral

Spiral — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:45:42 +0000

Were you fucking a doorknob?

By: theevilaires

theevilaires — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:42:01 +0000

no my orgasm face,why?

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:35:55 +0000

Did you have your angry face on when you typed that?

By: theevilaires

theevilaires — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:32:41 +0000

cry baby xbots taking the piss at a ps3 exclusive for any reason.cry me a river and stfu. stop trying to pass your own preferences to everyone else as a negative thing.many people don’t care about online co-op.Just because you’re to pussy to beat the game alone doesn’t mean everyone is too.once you “PLAY” the game i’m sure you wont even notice.You’ll be too stunned from the graphics and game play to care.

By: No_PUDding

No_PUDding — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:30:16 +0000

I think the reason was that it would cause teleportation.

I think if the game had an install it could do Co-op. it’s all about the checkpoitns, I am guessing. So it’s sucks.

Maybe the next game eh?

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:18:43 +0000

“That’s all cool, Truk. But you’re saying you need it/it isn’t important, which is a completely fair enough opinion if you’d actually tried it properly.”

I wasn’t explicitly going on about online co-op, but your points a good one. Maybe I’ll have to give it a go somehow. Not with KZ2 tho

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:13:25 +0000

That’s all cool, Truk. But you’re saying you don’t need it/it isn’t important, which is a completely fair enough opinion if you’d actually tried it properly.(imo)

I’ve played Halo 3 4 player online co-op from start to finish and it’s great fun.

I’ve also played Gears of War start to finish on co-op and drop-in/drop-out Co-op (either helping someone out or vice versa) and that too adds a completely new dimension to a shooter.

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:13:05 +0000

Extra seriously: My argument was mainly whether adding co-op, in terms of the number of people who play it, is worth the extra expense. I guess you’d need stats that are actually based on how many people buy it because it has co-op, rather than the numbers who actually get around to playing it.

It might be awesome, but I’ve never really had the inclination, opportunity or time to try it.

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:09:31 +0000

I’d need friends though, Mike. Oh and a game that supports it. I’m a PS3 owner. We don’t have any good games.

I do play co-op LBP with the wife if that counts.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:04:50 +0000

I don’t think opinion should be based on stats. You yourself have admitted that you haven’t sat and play “online” co-op in a shooter before. It’s very different to split-screen offline.

I really would consider trying it before you passed judgement on whether you needed it or not. It’s super-awesome. Like mega ultra.

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:51:49 +0000

Fair enough!

It would be interesting to have some stats regarding the use of co-op features.

By: Retroid

Retroid — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:44:05 +0000

Of course they can without it. I just find it disappointing that two recent PS3 FPS games have been released without (proper) co-op.

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:42:30 +0000

I think games can be very special without it. I enjoyed my day with Halo co-op, but I find it telling that I’ve never played a FPS co-op since.

By: Retroid

Retroid — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:12 +0000

Co-op can make a game really, really special.

I hoped Halo would’ve made the case convincingly for FPS games having it there.

Oh, and a side-story co-op mode isn’t a fit substitute.

By: No_PUDding

No_PUDding — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:40:18 +0000

Shouldn’t be marked down, but I also think it’s completely fair that it was mentioned in reviews.

I’d lvoe nothing more than to let someone jump in with me, even in a death match with bots.

I don’t even think KZ3 will allow it.

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:34:55 +0000

Yep. Can’t say I’ve played a lot of shooters recently, mind. I think the only time I’ve played co-op in an FPS was a single day of Halo at a mates house many moons ago. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe everyone does want co-op. I’d rather they concentrated on the single player personally.

I do wonder how many people outside the gaming hardcore actually care about all these features. I’d guess a lot just play single player. They might try multiplayer, but get put off by the ridiculous skill-level and time requirements to actually have any fun. They’d play co-op, but they only get a few hours a week to play games, so timing stuff with friends is difficult. I know that’s part of my lack of care for co-op.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:30:54 +0000

I’m playing co-op Gears tonight. It’s excellent. Especially if it’s with a good friend. It’s completely given the shooter a new dimension, imo.

Still, nothing beats that atmospheric, single player experience, however. It’s just that co-op is a very nice extra. Although I agree that a game shouldn’t be marked down for not having it in.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:27:59 +0000

Really? I’ve played virtually all my shooty games in co-op recently. It’s fantastic having a friend along for the ride.

By: Truk

Truk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:55:13 +0000

I have no interest in co-op. I’d imagine that’s true of many people. It’s a lot of work to please a few people.

By: DrDamn

DrDamn — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:14:24 +0000

@Lutz
This particular example aside – as it seems a lot of the level design and set-up hint at co-op – it’s not something which should be mandatory in every game. I prefer co-op done in a structured way which doesn’t detract from the single player experience. For example I’d say the stupidity of “DomAI” in Gears 1 detracted from the SP experience, though played as co-op it was obviously much better. I want to see more games where it is the primary focus (Left 4 Dead) – or a separate experience (Resistance 2) – not shoehorned into a game to tick a box.

By: Gekidami

Gekidami — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:48:29 +0000

Hum, GG already debunked this rumour some time ago in a interview with PSU, they said that it would be difficult to patch in due to the way the levles load.

By: Lutz

Lutz — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:46:38 +0000

No co-op? I mean, WTF? Games have been co-op since the 80′s FFS. It’s integral to the game play half of the time.