Greenberg feels fortunate 360 is half the price of PS3, expects continued momentum in 2009

Alright Aaron, that’s enough now, go back under your rock.

I’m sure that he didn’t exactly go out of his way to email VG247 just because he felt like it.

Woo he is like a pringle once he pops he dont stop does he?

Oh dear god this man just can’t keep his fat mouth shut, can he?

Why isn’t he so willing to share information when asked the question “What percentage of that 28 million is RRoD replacements?”.

Cort: There would be some, but only those machines replaced by retailers would count in the shipped figures. Machines replaced by MS would not.

I’m sure that’s right, but why do MS consistently refuse to answer the question?

Ha… I think we probably know why.

Microsoft will never ever publish the failure rate of the 360. It would be too embarrassing to reveal that this piece of hardware has by far the highest failure rate EVER in the entire history of mass-market electronics.

You obviously never had a ZX81.

It amuses me that people still go on about the RRoD, about a year and a half since it (the design flaws in the original boards) got addressed.

@Retroid,

One of the guys who works for me has had two die since the summer (one, bought in September, died within two months). Addressed? My arse.

I’ve bought two in the last year, I even dropped one of them on the day after I bought it, yet they hum away nicely.

(Sold my replaced-motherboard refurb to a mate, and that’s working fine too).

There are always going to be hardware failures, sadly. I know two people personally who’ve had PS3s die on them but I don’t go on about that

Things break.

(Seriously though, on the whole the issue was addressed with the Falcon revision. Hardly any have failed compared to the original models.)

OMFG people still in denial RRoD is still alive and spreading from country to country.Just because you xbots have been lucky in the past 6 months doesn’t make you immune.Things break huh, well not my launch 20 and 60gb ps3′s.Fucking noob things break you are pathetic.

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Cort said:

January 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm

@Retroid,

One of the guys who works for me has had two die since the summer (one, bought in September, died within two months). Addressed? My arse.

i know 10 people who got the RRoD in the past 3 months not shitting or (taking the piss ).

@Retroid,

No-one much goes on about that because you cannot reasonably compare 360 failure rates to PS3 failure rates. Probably equates to about 10,000:1.

As for the so-called YLOD that some do love to bring up every now and then, 99.5% can be cured by switching off your PS3, waiting thirty minutes, then switching it on again. It should be called YLOTI(TBTDOOTV)*.

Yellow Light Of Temporary Inconvenience (Try Blowing The Dust Out Of The Vents).

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G1GAHURTZ said:

January 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 am

I’m sure that he didn’t exactly go out of his way to email VG247 just because he felt like it.

yea he would, he knows this site is a xbox slutfest and wants to rally his troops to stop killzone 2

Oh really TEA… why don’t you look up YLOD?

Or look in threads like this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150137&page=16

Sure, nothing electrical ever breaks.

cort preach on brother! show them the real light not the 3 red rings

So you admit you’re a zealot, then?

i never saw a ylod in person but i have seen many many many RRoD in person. Also you see them at game conventions. You’re telling me M$ isn’t ashamed that their hardware is shit. NO! cause you know why its so cheap now they know when it craps out you’ll go buy a new one and they can say hey look we sold another shitbox

Ahh… I figured there was an angle here. I assume you’re saying that’s why they’ve sold so much more than the PS3? I thought last week the reason was price?

you assume too much thats why you are always wrong and if you read post you can put fail rate and cheap hardware together and it obviously makes decent sales from dumb consumers like yourself. and i thought we been through that, 360=200 ps3=400 they both made the same amount of money despite 360 doubling the consoles sold. Do your math kid

Lol speaking of RROD one of my 360′s has just suffered the fate.

Big fail rate + cheap hardware = high attach rate? Is that how it works, or am I missing something?

Taking a similar amount of cash at the tills isn’t the same as making the same amount of money.

You’ve only got to look at the profit figures to see that. That aside…

SticKboy – What actually happened is that there’s only 1m 360 owners but they’ve all bought the console 28 times because of RRoD. They’ve also bought Halo 3 8 times each (possibly because of the discs getting scratched) and Gears of War 5 times each.

I’m gonna go off on a limb and say that replacement consoles sent by Microsoft through the mail to cover the RROD warranty don’t count as “sold”.

I’m sure there’s a number of people who are both rich and stupid who would have thrown good money after bad after their console broke in the first year when there was no warranty, but I don’t think that adds up to a significant slice of the 28 million.

The real question Sony should ask, is why people that have recieved RROD’s haven’t switched to Sony? While some have, the majority has not.
That’s not a slam against the PS3, just a question I’ve wondered myself.
I’ve owned 3 Xbox 360′s, had one RROD, replaced by MS, which I sold off, recieved one as a gift which I still have, and bought an elite as my main system.
My reason for not buying a PS3 has been cost, Blu-ray isn’t really needed as I’m not a huge movie person, and not many games on the PS3 have interested me. I’m a serious RPG fan, more RPGs on 360 and PC.

@Psychotext,

Come on, the YLoD means death in only about 5% of occurences (it is usually cured by letting the console cool down and clearing the vents of dust or improving air circulation) and it probably happens to something like one in ten thousand PS3s, if that.

Yes it happens, but almost statistaclly too small to warrant mention.

how much did you pay for your first 360? and how much did you pay for your elite? the ps3 is 400 now right?… and you say price is the reason….chyea.

at the two gay birds who love adding each other in their comments you dumb idiots know nothing of consumer thoughts on purchasing things in the states because 1. your mothers buy your games and consoles and 2 you’re stupid euros so there you go..and i would like to add that i’m sorry if i bust your balls to bad stickboy, you can change your name back to morris

Cort, I wasn’t saying there were a lot of them. I was just giving an instance of “things breaking”, another would have been the drive no longer reading discs.

I bought my first 360 for $399 during the first month that they were available, sold it after I got it back from RROD, and bought the elite for $400. I got the other unit as a free gift.
The reason for the PS3 is price, it would be a second console, and as a RPG fan, wouldn’t be my primary unit unless that changes.
$400 would be worth it for a PS3 if I was a movie buff, and the media player is better than the 360 i hear.
The one thing that the PS3 has that the 360 doesnt right now is the web browser, and now with the ability to play youtube on it, i’m even more interested.

I also have to mention that i went through 3 PS2′s and 3 xbox’s, while i have had only one Dreamcast, one PS1,One Saturn, one 3DO, one SNES, and One Colecovision.

you make no sense stfu from now on. you paid 400 for everything else but “now” your reason for not getting a ps3 is because you’re an rpg fan…. give me a break little 14 year old.Also the media capabilities are better so drop the “i hear” bit.At 400 the xbox couldn’t do most of the things a ps3 could do at 600 and still some things at 200.I don’t care what systems you had because it doesn’t mean shit,guess what an 8 year old can have the same thing if he went to a flee market.

Little note:
@fearmonkey
YouTube was always able to be accessed on the PS3. It’s just that now, it’s optimized for it. I prefer normal YouTube over YouTube TV though. Even though, the TV version is faster, it doesn’t have comments yet, and the video is sharp, but shit(tier) quality.

Oh and theevilaires, calm that ass.