Tue, Jan 13, 2009 | 09:41 GMT
Greenberg: The only two winners right now are Microsoft and Nintendo
Microsoft’s Xbox 360 product manager, Aaron Greenberg, has told MCV that the only two winners at retail this generation is Microsoft and Nintendo.
“We think that we’re one of those industries that consumers are staying in for entertainment,” said Greenberg.
“‘We’, by the way – that’s us and Nintendo. Both the Wii and the Xbox 360 are really the two big winners. Actually, the only two winners right now if you look at holiday sales year over year.”
Both EEDAR and Wedbush Morgan’s Michael Pachter have predicted that Nintedo Wii sales are more than double that of Xbox 360 last month.
Full thing through the link.
Thanks, Destructoid.
By Mike Bowden



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#1
Psychotext
13/01/09, 9:43 am
I think the DS might have something to say about that Wii / 360 comment…
#2
Blerk
13/01/09, 9:46 am
Nintendo certainly seems to be a ‘much bigger’ winner than you, Microsoft.
#3
sennasnit
13/01/09, 9:54 am
what a fucking wanker.
#4
Retroid
13/01/09, 10:10 am
/Climbs into bunker
#5
SticKboy
13/01/09, 11:22 am
Oh, pride…
#6
SreyaNotfilc
13/01/09, 1:03 pm
That’s true Blerk. Remember though, when the Xbox was released, Microsoft was always way behind their competition. They were a new brand and had to take their lumps from the competition. Slowly, gamers approved the Xbox brand as a legitimate gaming platform. So, any positive news is great news for Microsoft. They are just ecstatic that they are included.
Now with the next generation of consoles will we have the same response from Microsoft or will they have a more “ho-hum” attitude towards sales if they are not dominating the competition? Time will tell…
#7
Robo_1
13/01/09, 1:36 pm
He really is a douche bag, and he’s founding a new low for PR banter. Sony ended up paying for their arrogance, so I’m sure his time will come.
#8
No_PUDding
13/01/09, 1:50 pm
Let the PR’s bitch.
It’s their job.
#9
rauper
13/01/09, 6:14 pm
Actually, he’s a really nice guy – honest – and much better than a lot of the corporate folks you might meet.
#10
theevilaires
13/01/09, 6:33 pm
this guy is good i love americans they are so full of it
#11
Mike
13/01/09, 6:33 pm
I’d love to meet him. but then again, I’d love to meet Reggie and Kaz too. I’m sure they’re both really “normal” but interviewing them all would be kind of cool.
#12
theevilaires
13/01/09, 6:40 pm
and you people who think wii is next gen are crazy.Its a fucking ps2 with motion controller gimmicks and bad games. If sony had done the same thing with ps2 they would have been killing them selves except for nintendo. ms on the other hand just jumped the gun and has cheap ass hardware. honestly tell the truth if ps3 and 360 launched the same day do you think ms would have a 8 million lead. look at the titles both systems had in their first year.Gears good graphics for 360 first year, uncharted better graphics than gears for ps3 in its first year.Sony you just fucked up with the launch learn from it and just do better next time.
#13
No_PUDding
13/01/09, 7:02 pm
Aaron would be so bejoyed to see the chaos he has created.
#14
mortiferus
13/01/09, 7:02 pm
@theevilaires LOL, Please Sony fucked up more than just the launch.
Lets see in no particular order:
1. Poor software development kit.
2. lack of overall general purpose RAM.
3. NON- Unified Shader Model GPU.
4. Price.
5. Overly complex and convoluted Cell/SPU Architechture.
They can only fix two of the five at best, 1 and 4. Also Blueray has not quite taken off… not by a long shot. And that is more due to consumer indifference than anything else, so it may not get better especially in the global economic recession.
Anyway, I am so glad Nintendo is back on top, even if they are not the company they once were. What Nintendo needs to do is WORK with the third party developers to deliver original games for the Wii. The Wii may not get more play time than my 360 but it is a wonderful machine that I do use very, very often.
#15
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:08 pm
and yet 360 has shown nothing that can match killzone 2 enough said
oh boy too bad
#16
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:09 pm
mortiferus said: They can only fix two of the five at best, 1 and 4. Also Blueray has not quite taken off… not by a long shot. And that is more due to consumer indifference than anything else, so it may not get better especially in the global economic recession.
ahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you use aaron Greenberg urine when you brush your teeth because i smell lies,piss,and shit coming from your way
#17
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:15 pm
oh and mortiferus are you saying that if the ps3 and 360 launched the same day ms would still beat sony coming off that wonderful lead called the ps2. please answer and let everyone see how stupid you really are
#18
mortiferus
13/01/09, 7:21 pm
@ theevilaires . LOL, Killzone? The game that was in production longer than the actual PS3 hardware? LOL… The same game with the pre-canned lighting and shading effects? LOL. Let’s see waht the reviews are on that…
An yeah, Blueray oh that loveable zombie format perfect for the PS3. Enjoy it while it’s around. Can you spell laser disk? Probably not, but feel free to ask dear old mum about it after an extra serving of milk and cookies tonight.
Oh, and if they launched on the same day PS3 would still lose… Why? not enough games. refer to my earlier 5 point comment dufus. Sony is and will remain last, DEAL WITH IT!!!
End o’ Story. Bye Kiddo
#19
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:23 pm
hmmm anybody remember too human (x360fanboys start to cry)
#20
ashers2ashers
13/01/09, 7:27 pm
personally I think the lead would be much more closer and maybe the ps3 might have been in the lead at the beginning, but the fact there has been pretty much no price cut for the ps3 and 2 for the xbox this year make it pretty obvious that this holiday season was guaranteed to end up with xbox 360 above ps3. I doubt it would have been possible for them to take lead if ps3 had maintained the lead they could have had at the start if both consoles had been released at the same time however, and so am saying that xbox 360 would have overtaken ps3 anyway, for me because of the lack of exclusives that make me want to get a ps3. MGS4 is the only thing I would get one for and I hope that will come to the 360 on however many discs in a year or 2 or 3, as it is my favourite game series ever. I’ve been lucky enough to have a friend let me play it from start to finish at his house though so no need to rush for a ps3 anytime soon
#21
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:27 pm
mortiferus said: Oh, and if they launched on the same day PS3 would still lose… Why? not enough games. refer to my earlier 5 point comment dufus. Sony is and will remain last, DEAL WITH IT!!!
somene please keep this guy on suicide watch when ps3 kicks 360′s ass in sells. I really feel sorry for you. Please tell me you don’t work and collect free government checks.Nobody as stupid as you should be let out into the wild
#22
mortiferus
13/01/09, 7:27 pm
@ theevilaires. Enjoy. Kiddo.
January 13, 2009
Sony Stock Slips On Operating Loss News
Based on early trading on the New York Stock Exchange, Sony shares have slipped moderately on news of a Nikkei report claiming that the company will post operating losses of $1.1 to $2.2 billion for the 2008 fiscal year.
As of 10:45 a.m., Sony shares were down 78 cents to $22.32–close to a 3.5 percent fall. However, shares have strengthened since the start of the trading session. Sony shares were off as much as 5.2 percent around 9:30 a.m.
Compared to how the Japanese market reacted, the fall has not been nearly as pronounced. On the Tokyo-based Nikkei index, Sony stock tumbled 8.9
Even the Japanese know Sony is a sinking ship. LOL.
http://www.endsights.com/?p=596
#23
mortiferus
13/01/09, 7:29 pm
Enough baby spanking theevilaires for today, time to head home and some games…
#24
ashers2ashers
13/01/09, 7:30 pm
wait a second, I’ve just realised I’m an xbox 360 fanboy as one of their many exclusives wasn’t that great and THIS WHOLE DAMN INTERWEBS FILLD WIVZ XBOTS TAKING OVAA!!!1!1!!
#25
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:30 pm
if they launched the same year ms wouldn’t have had that many exclusives first off. Sony was arrogant took their time releasing dev kits and developers said fuck that. plus can you name all 360 exclusives from launch until the end of this year. lets go
#26
theevilaires
13/01/09, 7:31 pm
they let you go from day care early huh
#27
fearmonkey
13/01/09, 8:01 pm
Geez, I hated sony for all the arrogant banter they spouted, and now MS has Greenberg opening his stupid flap. Please please shutup.
#28
theevilaires
13/01/09, 8:57 pm
lets not forget killzone 2 comes out next month. this could be a way of clouding people from being interested. i like how peter moore talked a lot of bs about it not being even close to the 2005 e3 trailer. somebody should have told him the dreamcast sales would have never come close to the original playstation.
#29
theevilaires
13/01/09, 9:05 pm
it really does sicken me when competitors have to always mention the guy on the top success with their failures. what would he have said if ps3 was ahead?…. “its not fare people should buy our system and nintendo’s wii”.
#30
The_Deleted
13/01/09, 9:47 pm
I don’t think Killzone 2 is going to save the PS3 any more than LBP did. SONY need to keep hold of thier IP’s and sort out our DLC. Missing out on GTAIV and Fallout 3 is a kick in the nuts.
#31
Syrok
13/01/09, 9:57 pm
I really don’t think that many apart from those who spend their working day on games forums anyone cares much about exclusive DLC.
#32
Cort
13/01/09, 10:02 pm
Mortiferus your posts are as bad and fanboyish as theevilaires’ so take a dose of your own medicine and stfu. Thanks.
#33
theevilaires
13/01/09, 11:00 pm
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The_Deleted said:
January 13th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
I don’t think Killzone 2 is going to save the PS3 any more than LBP did. SONY need to keep hold of thier IP’s and sort out our DLC. Missing out on GTAIV and Fallout 3 is a kick in the nuts.
what stfu you stupid noob nobody said anything about killzone being the savior of ps3. fact is if the ps3 was $200 and the 360 also the ps3 would crush xbox.its all about price now not the games.and fallout 3 is so overrated i like how everyone praised it to death before release and now is calling it the biggest let down of 2008.
#34
theevilaires
13/01/09, 11:07 pm
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Cort said:
January 13th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Mortiferus your posts are as bad and fanboyish as theevilaires’ so take a dose of your own medicine and stfu. Thanks.
thats right cort at least some people aren’t blind around here. As long as the ps3 bashing continues for no reason besides pure jealously and envy that he can’t afford one, i’ll be on this site to rip him a new one,and that goes for the rest of you dirty shit pile of cow dung known as “xbox360fanboys”
#35
SticKboy
13/01/09, 11:07 pm
Gah. I didn’t think it was possible for one solitary commenter to single-handedly lower the tone of an entire site, but perhaps I’m mistaken…
Shatner come home, all is forgiven.
#36
Cort
13/01/09, 11:18 pm
One? There is more than one poster pulling this place down.
Now back to the story. Can someone please sew Greenberg’s mouth shut? How can you have two winners? What a douchebag.
#37
theevilaires
13/01/09, 11:19 pm
morris/stickboy has arrived…. but honestly do you think i’m bringing this site down?
#38
patlike
13/01/09, 11:21 pm
You turn your back for five minutes and all the children start fighting. Where’s the love, men?
#39
Shatner
13/01/09, 11:24 pm
Hi.
#40
theevilaires
13/01/09, 11:24 pm
are you the guy who had the newborns? congrats!
#41
SticKboy
13/01/09, 11:32 pm
Alright Shatner, sorry to hear about you-know-what. Hope things aren’t too dicey for you at the mo’, I really do.
#42
Cort
13/01/09, 11:42 pm
What’s the you-know-what? No cliques! ;o)
#43
SticKboy
14/01/09, 12:14 am
Sorry Cort, but I don’t think it’s my place to say – if Shatner wants to elucidate that’s his prerogative.
#44
fearmonkey
14/01/09, 12:30 am
@theevilaires – Actually Fallout3 is a wonderfull game, though I personally like Oblivion better.
Hardly a major disapointment, you know, like lair, Haze, the sales of littlebigplanet, Home, etc etc…..
#45
theevilaires
14/01/09, 12:33 am
yea i know what you mean blue dragon ,too human, the sales of any rpg,etc etc etc etc etc ect etc (you get the idea)on 360 and the rrod
bring it bitch my gun is bigger!
#46
Squa11
14/01/09, 1:20 am
Uhh theevillaires I can bring up Lost Odyssey which sold 700k
Which is better than any JRPG out of PS3
#47
Squa11
14/01/09, 1:21 am
Also RROD is practically nonexistant now so your point is no longer valid.
Too Human was a decent game with flaws big deal it wasn’t a flop and/or bad game like Haze or Lair.
Blue Dragon was also a good game but was bashed for its kiddiness.
I just bought a new Elite for $400 which is the same amount as a PS3 so if I wanted one I would have gotten one.
The biggest letdown of 08 is Star Wars: The Force Unleashed and Spore.
If PS3 and 360 did their launch at the same time the 360 would still be in the lead due to customers not wanting to spend $600 on a console (That was the price for it during launch).
Uncharted is undoubtedly the best PS3 game along with LBP but no way did it have better graphics than Gears. It did have beautiful graphics don’t get me wrong just not better than Gears.
The best looking game out there today is Crysis and has been ever since it came out, so don’t call me an xbot.
#48
theevilaires
14/01/09, 2:04 am
yea but lbp will surpass a million if not already lo didn’t sorry and rrod still exist nice try fagboy
#49
illegal Hugs
14/01/09, 2:07 am
Wow, although most statements here are wrong (like the fact that Red Rings no longer existence), I’m surprised by the lack of maturity. Most posts on here are about as bright as the midnight sky.
Yes Wii is leading the way, with 360 and PS3 following respectively. But at least the Wii and the PS3 aren’t suffering from a poor manufacturing process.
Understand that the PS3 isn’t a pure game console. It has the fastest web browser around (even on PC/Macs), Bluray playback, a DIY HDD upgrade option, and free online gaming.
From a gaming standpoint, the Wii leads the casual market. The 360 leads in online gaming along with unfortunate online douchebaggery (seriously will it ever end?). While the PS3 maintains a more mature gaming lineup (except PAIN, which is pure crap).
Bottom Line:
Wii – Kids and the elderly (my 65 yr old father loves his Wii!)
360 – Online gaming for college males 18-34 looking to blow shit up
PS3 – For those looking for a multipurpose console (web browser, videos, games, Folding@Home, music, etc)
By the way, why is Microsoft charging for everything these days? They already charge for Live! I hate to say but the brits are right, we are wankers.
#50
illegal Hugs
14/01/09, 2:09 am
For those that act like real people, thank you for not being a douche.
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