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	<title>Comments on: Reeves: &#8220;You don’t grow the market by putting out shoddy machines&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: dirigiblebill</title>
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		<dc:creator>dirigiblebill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZANG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZANG.</p>
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		<title>By: wz</title>
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		<dc:creator>wz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theevilaires said:
[...] let Adults do the grown up talking.Go suck on your tits why don’t you imbecile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theevilaires said:<br />
[...] let Adults do the grown up talking.Go suck on your tits why don’t you imbecile.</p>
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		<title>By: dirigiblebill</title>
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		<dc:creator>dirigiblebill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZING.</p>
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		<title>By: theevilaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>theevilaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please change your name to johhny C every time i see it i misread it as johnny cunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please change your name to johhny C every time i see it i misread it as johnny cunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, EE!

You broke my fragile heart with the wrap up canceled :(

*goes back to Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, EE!</p>
<p>You broke my fragile heart with the wrap up canceled <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*goes back to Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360*</p>
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		<title>By: theevilaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>theevilaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyhow excuse me I would like to have everyone&#039;s attention.My HOLIDAY SPECIAL YEAR END WRAP UP! will be canceled. Sorry for any upsets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyhow excuse me I would like to have everyone&#8217;s attention.My HOLIDAY SPECIAL YEAR END WRAP UP! will be canceled. Sorry for any upsets.</p>
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		<title>By: theevilaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>theevilaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JonFE said:Kudos to Michael O’Connor for teaching theevilaires some good old-fashioned manners - his uncalled-for foul language was getting on my tits :-D

he what?! taught me?! ahahahaha O&#039;connor just happens to be someone of logic unlike most people on this site (giganuts).As far as O&#039;connor &quot;teaching&quot; me i think you need a lesson of your own when to mind your fucking business and let Adults do the grown up talking.Go suck on your tits why don&#039;t you imbecile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JonFE said:Kudos to Michael O’Connor for teaching theevilaires some good old-fashioned manners &#8211; his uncalled-for foul language was getting on my tits <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>he what?! taught me?! ahahahaha O&#8217;connor just happens to be someone of logic unlike most people on this site (giganuts).As far as O&#8217;connor &#8220;teaching&#8221; me i think you need a lesson of your own when to mind your fucking business and let Adults do the grown up talking.Go suck on your tits why don&#8217;t you imbecile.</p>
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		<title>By: Whizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the only way to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the only way to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuke from orbit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuke from orbit?</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They mostly come at night.  Mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They mostly come at night.  Mostly.</p>
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		<title>By: theevilaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>theevilaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psychotext said:Yeah… I was playing games too. But I needed a break between some of the utterly meh community games. So I decided to wind up theevilaires. :D

beware you could start a tornado you can&#039;t put out....wait to late!!! expect 360fagboy bashing coming to a post near you TOMORROW! THE HOLIDAY SPECIAL YEAR END WRAP UP! Hosted by me.HAPPY HOLIDAYS (MORRIS,PSYCHOBITCH,SYROC,And GIGANUTS!):P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psychotext said:Yeah… I was playing games too. But I needed a break between some of the utterly meh community games. So I decided to wind up theevilaires. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>beware you could start a tornado you can&#8217;t put out&#8230;.wait to late!!! expect 360fagboy bashing coming to a post near you TOMORROW! THE HOLIDAY SPECIAL YEAR END WRAP UP! Hosted by me.HAPPY HOLIDAYS (MORRIS,PSYCHOBITCH,SYROC,And GIGANUTS!):P</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... I was playing games too.  But I needed a break between some of the utterly meh community games.  So I decided to wind up theevilaires. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; I was playing games too.  But I needed a break between some of the utterly meh community games.  So I decided to wind up theevilaires. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JonFE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonFE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Michael O&#039;Connor for teaching theevilaires some good old-fashioned manners - his uncalled-for foul language was getting on my tits :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Michael O&#8217;Connor for teaching theevilaires some good old-fashioned manners &#8211; his uncalled-for foul language was getting on my tits <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: G1GAHURTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>G1GAHURTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was up late last night too, playing Pure.

It&#039;s a very good game.

Can&#039;t say that I felt the need to move my 360 though... lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was up late last night too, playing Pure.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very good game.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say that I felt the need to move my 360 though&#8230; lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The funny thing is, I was up until half one last night. But I was… playing games! :-D&quot;

So was I, but then my Fallout 3 disc got damaged because I was stupid enough to move my 360 while playing it. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The funny thing is, I was up until half one last night. But I was… playing games! <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>So was I, but then my Fallout 3 disc got damaged because I was stupid enough to move my 360 while playing it. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is, I &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; up until half one last night. But I was... playing games! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is, I <b>was</b> up until half one last night. But I was&#8230; playing games! <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m beginning to feel left out of the “we never go to bed” gang!&quot;

Insomnia is funny like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m beginning to feel left out of the “we never go to bed” gang!&#8221;</p>
<p>Insomnia is funny like that.</p>
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		<title>By: patlike</title>
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		<dc:creator>patlike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They love it. Even I sleep more than they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They love it. Even I sleep more than they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beginning to feel left out of the &quot;we never go to bed&quot; gang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m beginning to feel left out of the &#8220;we never go to bed&#8221; gang!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The PS3 will, 10 year lifespan, futureproof, that kinda thing. 360 is hazier, though.&quot;

A 10 year lifespan is only going to happen if 1) sales rise instead of fall, as they recently did, and 2) The competition doesn&#039;t release a competitively priced new format that detracts attention away from it. And lets not pretend that both Nintendo and Microsoft aren&#039;t capable of that.

How exactly is it &quot;futureproof&quot;?

&quot;I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that the PS3 is at the same amount of sales as the PS2 was at thsi point in it’s life.&quot;

Whoever told you that is talking shit. The PS2 managed almost 40 million sales in its first two years, and within three years of its existence, it was selling more units in six months than the PS3 has in two years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2664337.stm for just one valid resource to back that up.

Compared to the PS2, NEITHER the 360 or the PS3 are selling that well, and their COMBINED sales are about the same as the PS2 at this point in its life cycle. The PS2 already reached a sales saturation point, so the only thing the PS3 and 360 can do is &quot;share&quot; that section of the public.

The &quot;bigger&quot; market companies are aiming for doesn&#039;t apply to the consoles; it applies to the games. The games are where the big money is at.

But they don&#039;t seem to realise that the general public doesn&#039;t really care; they&#039;ve already got Wii Sports, Brain Training, and Wii Fit; and like it or not, the Wii is the format that is blowing ahead right now.

The 360 and the PS3 are just trying to play catch up.

At least for 2009 the PS3 seems to have a decent lineup of strong games for the core audience. It&#039;s gonna be a hard year for Microsoft in my opinion, despite how well they have done up to now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The PS3 will, 10 year lifespan, futureproof, that kinda thing. 360 is hazier, though.&#8221;</p>
<p>A 10 year lifespan is only going to happen if 1) sales rise instead of fall, as they recently did, and 2) The competition doesn&#8217;t release a competitively priced new format that detracts attention away from it. And lets not pretend that both Nintendo and Microsoft aren&#8217;t capable of that.</p>
<p>How exactly is it &#8220;futureproof&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that the PS3 is at the same amount of sales as the PS2 was at thsi point in it’s life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoever told you that is talking shit. The PS2 managed almost 40 million sales in its first two years, and within three years of its existence, it was selling more units in six months than the PS3 has in two years.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2664337.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2664337.stm</a> for just one valid resource to back that up.</p>
<p>Compared to the PS2, NEITHER the 360 or the PS3 are selling that well, and their COMBINED sales are about the same as the PS2 at this point in its life cycle. The PS2 already reached a sales saturation point, so the only thing the PS3 and 360 can do is &#8220;share&#8221; that section of the public.</p>
<p>The &#8220;bigger&#8221; market companies are aiming for doesn&#8217;t apply to the consoles; it applies to the games. The games are where the big money is at.</p>
<p>But they don&#8217;t seem to realise that the general public doesn&#8217;t really care; they&#8217;ve already got Wii Sports, Brain Training, and Wii Fit; and like it or not, the Wii is the format that is blowing ahead right now.</p>
<p>The 360 and the PS3 are just trying to play catch up.</p>
<p>At least for 2009 the PS3 seems to have a decent lineup of strong games for the core audience. It&#8217;s gonna be a hard year for Microsoft in my opinion, despite how well they have done up to now.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was from the screwed up VGChartz &quot;from launch&quot; chart.  At the same number of months after both consoles launched the PS3 is at about 18m sold and the PS2 was at 36m sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was from the screwed up VGChartz &#8220;from launch&#8221; chart.  At the same number of months after both consoles launched the PS3 is at about 18m sold and the PS2 was at 36m sold.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think a price cut is really where it&#039;s at right now. Cut it down to, say, £200 and the world will implode.

I&#039;m pretty sure I read somewhere that the PS3 is at the same amount of sales as the PS2 was at thsi point in it&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think a price cut is really where it&#8217;s at right now. Cut it down to, say, £200 and the world will implode.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I read somewhere that the PS3 is at the same amount of sales as the PS2 was at thsi point in it&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s damn good if you ask me.&quot;

Oh for sure, but if the PS3 follows a similar sales curve then its sales will be miserable long before it makes it to its eighth year.  With the Wii stalking around eating up all the casuals, the 360 costing next to nothing and picking up the hardcore and standalone blu-ray player prices now available for half the price of the PS3 it&#039;s going to be hard for it to fight back.

Who knows, maybe they can pull out a big enough price cut to turn things around with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s damn good if you ask me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh for sure, but if the PS3 follows a similar sales curve then its sales will be miserable long before it makes it to its eighth year.  With the Wii stalking around eating up all the casuals, the 360 costing next to nothing and picking up the hardcore and standalone blu-ray player prices now available for half the price of the PS3 it&#8217;s going to be hard for it to fight back.</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe they can pull out a big enough price cut to turn things around with.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...that&#039;s still half of what it did it it&#039;s second year SIX YEARS LATER. That&#039;s damn good if you ask me.

And no, I can&#039;t see the PS3 dying. It&#039;s too good. The system itself, the games are catching, if not already caught up, with more to come. It isn&#039;t going to die before it&#039;s 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;that&#8217;s still half of what it did it it&#8217;s second year SIX YEARS LATER. That&#8217;s damn good if you ask me.</p>
<p>And no, I can&#8217;t see the PS3 dying. It&#8217;s too good. The system itself, the games are catching, if not already caught up, with more to come. It isn&#8217;t going to die before it&#8217;s 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you mumbling about theevilaires?

Gamoc: 10 year lifespan is only really viable when you&#039;re the clear market leader.  Customers decide how long your console survives and sells... it&#039;s not just something you can say is going to happen.  So obviously, time will tell on that one.

Even if it does, that doesn&#039;t automatically equate to monster sales in the last of those 10 years.  You can take the PS2 as an example.  In the US it did around 3.5m in its 8th year.  That compares to around 7m in its second year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you mumbling about theevilaires?</p>
<p>Gamoc: 10 year lifespan is only really viable when you&#8217;re the clear market leader.  Customers decide how long your console survives and sells&#8230; it&#8217;s not just something you can say is going to happen.  So obviously, time will tell on that one.</p>
<p>Even if it does, that doesn&#8217;t automatically equate to monster sales in the last of those 10 years.  You can take the PS2 as an example.  In the US it did around 3.5m in its 8th year.  That compares to around 7m in its second year.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PS3 will, 10 year lifespan, futureproof, that kinda thing. 360 is hazier, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PS3 will, 10 year lifespan, futureproof, that kinda thing. 360 is hazier, though.</p>
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		<title>By: theevilaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>theevilaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s it i tried to be nice 360 ass holes are going down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s it i tried to be nice 360 ass holes are going down</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think the 360 or the PS3 will come close to what the PS2 sold.  In fact I reckon neither will break 70m when all is said and done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think the 360 or the PS3 will come close to what the PS2 sold.  In fact I reckon neither will break 70m when all is said and done.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no doubt that the Wii will overtake PS2&#039;s sales, so will the PS3, eventually, and the 360 probably will, too. Bigger market, and all that.

I, too, have never seen a PS2 that has died. I had one since launch day and only got rid of it when I traded it in for a 60gb PS3 (which then died a few months afterwards... oh the bitter fuckirony).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that the Wii will overtake PS2&#8217;s sales, so will the PS3, eventually, and the 360 probably will, too. Bigger market, and all that.</p>
<p>I, too, have never seen a PS2 that has died. I had one since launch day and only got rid of it when I traded it in for a 60gb PS3 (which then died a few months afterwards&#8230; oh the bitter fuckirony).</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol... you hypocritical sob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230; you hypocritical sob.</p>
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