Greenberg: Home is “Second Life for hardcore gamers”

I like to agree with that.

Meh.

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, Greenberg.

Let’s look at the most important thing he said…

“What Home to me feels like is Second Life for hardcore gamers” and “it doesn’t feel like it broadens the experience and invites people in.”

I don’t have any issue with what he says about the broadness of the scope of the project, but when talking about inviting people in … it’s a crock. He admits it’s like Second Life, after all. Second Life has an amazingly large audience of casual players, most of which aren’t even gamers. My mother plays Second Life. If that’s not inviting then, to be honest, I don’t know what is.

So he says it’s like Second Life, and then goes on to imply that this is bad somehow, because apparently Second Life isn’t inviting. That’s the most obviously and ludicrously untrue statement I’ve seen today.

/sigh

Up to your usual old nonsense, MS. Usual old nonsense. It’s so hard to have any respect for the XBox 360 as a platform when they keep giving… challenged people like this fellow the podium.

I have the console, I want to be able to feel good about it, must they make it so hard?

Well Syrok was on the closed Beta and he agrees.

Not with the part that it is for hardcore gamers, but with that “When they unveiled it, it seemed innovative. I think what’s happened is now here we are a couple of years later and we feel beyond that” and especially with that it “doesn’t feel like it broadens the experience and invites people in.”

I think it’s the ‘hardcore’ part that makes it uninviting, not that it’s a bit like Second Life.

Also, Second Life is for weirdos and sexual deviants. Home’s actually relatively bland compared to the kind of flying-dildo stuff you see in that.

Syrok: Which are the points Esha took issue with.

I just can’t wait to finally play the damn thing. It’s been dubbed as the Second Coming since PS3 launched and I just can’t wait to see what it’s all about.

“It feels like 2005 tech in 2008. I’m not sure that’s what people want.”

Hey Aaron, you know what else is 2005 tech in 2008? The Xbox 360.

This is the guy who claimed that the new 360 interface (sorry, it’s not an ‘experience’) was “the most significant day in the history of the internet” too.

Bless.

Next week: Some guy at Sony says something dismissive about Microsoft.

“I just can’t wait to finally play the damn thing. It’s been dubbed as the Second Coming since PS3 launched”

Play? No, I don’t think you “play” Home.

And who has been dubbing it the “Second Coming”? My guess is the jolly old games media. Build something up today so you can knock it down tomorrow!

Ok then, “interact” with it.

And no, not the games media. Sony and most people on the internet who have talked it up since day 1. As far as I know, the game media people I’ve spoken to has said it looks fucking awful.

“Sony and most people on the internet who have talked it up since day 1″

You stated “second coming” – I’d like to see who’s claimed that. Other than someone from the games media who is fond of selectively misquoting others so they can dispute the quote later.

Also, since when was it a crime that a company talks up its products? Particularly at press events and conventions? (Neither of which are known for corporate humility).

I used the term Second Coming as an exaggeration to emphasize a point. Like normal people do in everyday speech. I also never intimated it was a crime, I just refuted your claim it was the games media who has built it up. There’s nothing wrong with any company selling its wares. It’s testament to Sony that the way its talked it up makes me want to try it, which is what I said in the first place.

Anything else?

No. That clarfication will do. For now.

Much appreciated

You can “play” it in the same way you play the sims, oh and you can play pool, bowling, chess, checkers (or draughts as we like to call it) and funky arcade games, i’m in the most recent beta, so far it’s a big FREE thumbs up from me.

It has to be noted that only chess and checkers work nicely, except it’s not animated. The avatars seem to move the figures through mind control, or something….

Also, all games are disabled for launch aren’t they? And all EU users get is the Motorstorm themed area, with the other areas not being available just yet – even though they were in the closed Beta.

“Hardcore” isn’t a word I would’ve associated with Home. I can’t imagine them using it at all. I thought it was supposed to entice in the more casual players?

I don’t know, there wasn’t any other area available in the EU or US Beta apart from the plaza, mall, cinema and the bowling centre during the time I was in it.

You can now buy a summer house from the real estate shop for £0.00

I did, filled it up with rubber ducks and turned Home off.

do they give us more stuff to do now it goes in open beta??? i quite like it anyway, added a few sound people to my friends list so it is of some use. was much easier building a decent friends list on xbox live. sony have got to start bundling mic’s with the console to tackle this….

Ofcourse Morriss, you dont actually want to try Home to see what its about do you. You’ve made your opinion of it very clear, you just want to see more content to flame.

Do the arcade games have leaderboards? If so, that’s quite cool, a bunch of arcade games for free! Can’t argue with that…
Oh also, the Airbull race thing looks fun…

tomasinoP: No, you get less stuff than you did before.

“Also, Second Life is for weirdos and sexual deviants. Home’s actually relatively bland compared to the kind of flying-dildo stuff you see in that.”

The flying dildo thing had nothing to do with sexual deviancy. It was an intended attack on the software by some malicious hackers.

Have you ever actually used Second Life for more than five minutes? You’re only gonna find that sort of stuff if you go out of your way to find it… which says a lot more about you than them if you have.