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IGN Football Manager 09 review criticism best left to the terraces, say Jacobson

Monday, 8 December 2008 12:49 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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Sports Interactive boss Miles Jacobson has declined to remark on a 2/10 IGN US review for Football Manager 2009, saying criticism of the piece is best left to user comments.

“I’m not a reviewer and therefore don’t think it’s my place to critique critique’s, nor am I likely to be anything but biased,” he said.

“Therefore I’ll leave the comments to the people who are playing the game and are commenting on the website about the review.”

IGN US published the review on Friday, closing with: “The menus are complex and difficult to navigate, graphics are terrible, the sound is non-existent and there is no traditional gameplay to speak of. I couldn’t imagine why anybody would prefer Worldwide Soccer Manager to FIFA 09 or Pro Evolution Soccer 2009.”

IGN UK gave the game 9.1/10, saying the game “is still easily the most in-depth, enjoyable and addictive way to pretend you manage a football team.”

The fans have been less than appreciative of the American review.

“This is without a doubt the worst review in the history of the site,” said one, with another adding, “This is easily one of the most ill-informed reviews I’ve read in the last several years.”

IGN’s score has dragged the game’s Metacritic average down significantly: it now rests at 74 percent.

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36 Comments

  1. morriss

    Tragic, that. Terrible review.

    #1 6 years ago
  2. that_happy_cat

    [This reviewer] miss[ed] the point more than Michael Bay missed the mark, When he made Pearl Harbor.

    I[t] miss[ed] the point more than that movie missed the point,
    And that’s an awful lot.

    And now, now [it's reduced its metacritic ranking],
    And all I’m trying to say,
    Is Pearl Harbour sucked and [IGN US do too]

    #2 6 years ago
  3. morriss

    eh?

    #3 6 years ago
  4. TheDifficult3rdAlbum

    “I couldn’t imagine why anybody would prefer Worldwide Soccer Manager to FIFA 09 or Pro Evolution Soccer 2009″

    “Yes, the depth of management in this game is impressive. But, it’s not impressive enough to make up for the fact that you aren’t actually playing soccer.”

    Er…WTF?

    #4 6 years ago
  5. morriss

    It’s mental. Probably the single worst review of all time, I think.

    #5 6 years ago
  6. that_happy_cat

    “There is no soundtrack that plays while you work in the game’s menus, which you’ll spend the vast majority of your time in this game doing. There is no audio narration to accompany your participation in press conferences, even though your options for how to respond to each question is incredibly limited. There is no audio commentary to accompany the action in the simulated game’s you watch/coach.”

    It’s as if the guy woke from a coma with no knowledge of the series, or the potential for different gaming experiences for different people. Oh hang on, it’s IGN USofA… MAKE THAT MAN THE EDITOR!!

    #6 6 years ago
  7. Centipede

    With all this critisism, is IGN US going to respond or are they hoping that this will go away by itself.

    Shame on them…. reviewing a games by a reviewer who clearly has no clue what he should compare the game to.

    #7 6 years ago
  8. pleasant_cabbage

    Heh
    I agree about the missed point thing.

    However, footy manager type games have been getting away with very poor presentation for years. Just because it is a spreadsheet it doesn’t have to look and sound like one. ;)

    The 2nd screen-shot in that review looks like it is about to replicate the exact highlights section from Football Manager on the Amstrad… from 1985.

    #8 6 years ago
  9. Blerk

    :-D

    I must go read this now.

    #9 6 years ago
  10. that_happy_cat

    Cabbage… you’re right. But then, Pro Evo has been getting away with awful presentation and sound for years too. Yet he likes that.

    But it’s as if the sudden inclusion of “graphics” has entered this title into a different gaming category, like a boxer going up a weight and being totally out of his depth. If you read the first paragraph of the UK review it really dismisses the US version. Sites might have to stop presuming that they have loyal readers that read every review they stick up. Many, many readers will go to a site to check out for a review of a game they fancy and that’s all. If an FM fan wants to check if the new version is worth buying then IGN are going to come across as very silly indeed.

    Do film reviewers look at the latest Pixar release and say “well ok, but I don’t really like cartoons”?

    #10 6 years ago
  11. pleasant_cabbage

    Oh I’m not justifying the score or review at all. I agree with the criticism of it. I just spotted one kernel of potential truth in a sea of wrong ;)

    It’s an interesting point being raised about who should review what, though. At what stage does a game become fan-only reviewer territory? Preaching to converted etc?

    #11 6 years ago
  12. Newbie101

    I think IGN just scored an own goal…….

    It is a very funny review, I had to check it wasnt April the 1st…

    #12 6 years ago
  13. scratchy69

    I think this says it all….

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ82aMQONvc

    #13 6 years ago
  14. ecu

    It’s really harsh. I’m guessing this guy isn’t much of a football fan at all, so I don’t know what he’s doing reviewing a hardcore footy management sim. 2/10 is probably fair to him, and probably fair to most Americans.

    #14 6 years ago
  15. SticKboy

    It’s like giving a Halo or GTA review to a hardcore flight sim or historical strategy fanatic. It just doesn’t fit.

    IGN should take their review down and apologise – and this is the first time I’ve ever said that. Plus, I *hate* Football Manager!

    #15 6 years ago
  16. airdom

    who cares about the metascore? try it out for yourself and make your own damn opinion about it!

    #16 6 years ago
  17. SticKboy

    @ airdom: Don’t be so fucking naive. The metascore is used by publishers to determine a number of things, such as bonuses for the developer, viability of a sequel and funding for their future projects.

    #17 6 years ago
  18. airdom

    how about looking at sales?

    #18 6 years ago
  19. Newbie101

    “@ airdom: Don’t be so fucking naive. The metascore is used by publishers to determine a number of things, such as bonuses for the developer, viability of a sequel and funding for their future projects.”

    LololLLOOL

    #19 6 years ago
  20. rauper

    “LololLLOOL”

    Not sure why you are laughing, it’s absolutely true.

    Although in SI’s case I think they will be fine…

    #20 6 years ago
  21. airdom

    Don’t sales influence the bonus of the developer more than the score though? makes sense

    #21 6 years ago
  22. BillyBatts

    People care about quality these days, and for better or for worse, Metacritic is an easy acid test for publishers.

    In this particular case I doubt it will make a spot of difference because FM is such a strong brand. Nonetheless, if you only bought 3 or 4 games a year and were interested in buying FM, you might be put off by the fact the latest version has got a 74 on Metacritic while all the previous versions are in the nineties. I’d be brewin’ if I was SEGA.

    #22 6 years ago
  23. morriss

    Don’t underestimate the power IGN has over it’s many, many users in the US either. The review could hurt SI and Sega financially.

    #23 6 years ago
  24. Truk

    It is not uncommon for metacritic score requirements to be written into contracts for developers, particularly in the USA. In this case, as rauper says, there probably won’t be any problems on that front for SI.

    #24 6 years ago
  25. mortiferus

    IGN sucks!!! I haven’t been to their site in ages and wont likely do it ever again. I have no interest in their BS reviews.

    #25 6 years ago
  26. BillyBatts

    Avi Burk… by name, by nature.

    He must be Avi-n a laugh…

    *taxi*

    #26 6 years ago
  27. SticKboy

    @ airdom: In the past, publishers have valued a high Metacritic average over sales, for example when a game failed to sell spectacularly well but received critical acclaim and established the brand, paving the way for lucrative sequels. Prince of Persia: Sands of Time is one example. Games like that set a precedent and now publishers frequently use (and abuse) metacritic scores… they’ve become another metric by which to evaluate success.

    #27 6 years ago
  28. Ratso

    Transposition time: 2008=1992, Football Manager 2009=Championship Manager, IGN=Amiga Power.

    #28 6 years ago
  29. Egon Superb

    @that_happy_cat Loved the Team America reference. :D

    The backlash is well under way – IGN lets readers review their writers, so go here for the updates on Avi Burk:
    http://readerreviews.ign.com/rrobj/starsperson/avi_burk/14282014/

    #29 6 years ago
  30. Newbie101

    ““LololLLOOL”
    Not sure why you are laughing, it’s absolutely true.
    Although in SI’s case I think they will be fine…”

    I was laughing as I think SI are safe. He came across like ‘If FM2k9′s MC score isnt high we wont see another FM!’ which isn’t going to happen now is it….
    FM is still awsome for me :)

    #30 6 years ago
  31. morriss

    Ah! That’s what it was. Team America.

    #31 6 years ago
  32. absolutezero

    Ill post here mainly what I posted on EG. Americans have management sims, for baseball, NFL and all that shite. Most of them are all flash-bang and filled with pizzaz and style. What he pointed out is true Football Manager looks like shit, its really fucking dull.

    #32 6 years ago
  33. Psychotext

    That just goes back to the same old argument though… are you reviewing games for yourself, gamers in general or fans of the genre?

    In this case he’s clear he reviewed it for himself.

    #33 6 years ago
  34. Psychotext

    If you click the link now you’ll see they removed the review.

    “After seeing the community feedback and having more editors look at the title, we agree with the readers that our original review didn’t give Worldwide Soccer Manager 2008 a fair shake. Unfortunately, our critical analysis of WWSM ’08 focused more on what the author wanted it to be rather than what the product actually was.”

    Pretty much what people were saying, shame they called it the ’08 version in the retraction. :D

    #34 6 years ago
  35. morriss

    Nice one! At least they had the decency to do it rather tahn stubbornly leave it up there.

    #35 6 years ago
  36. leboutaine

    Haven’t read the review, but played the game.

    FM07 was a good template for SI to build upon so where the hell did 09 come from?

    One season I started as Bury and was unbeaten for about 12 games winning 9. Then no matter what I did I couldn’t even score for the remainder of the season. The amount of offside goals has been reduced, but injuries have increased something stupid. The fans aren’t impressed if you don’t win every game, if one player plays badly once its the end of the world and the board have no patience whatsoever. On top of that your team just stops playing well altogether for no reason.

    FM07 I won the Serie A with Roma twice, Fiorentina once, Milan 7 and Juve once, along with FA Cup and Carling Cup with Arsenal (debut season) and Champions league 5 times with Milan, Italian super cup about 3 times and european super cup 4 times. I must have had about a 20 year game on that version and then it went wrong. I was the only world class manager left on the game but couldnt get a job!

    all of them go wrong along the way, but 09 and 08 are fucking shit before it gets good.

    the whole past experience thing is pointless! you cant even work ur reputation up with a small team f u have no experience bcoos everyone is questioning u! then the players dont respect u etc.. and whats the point starting with a continental reputation before uvce even achieved anything.

    the game is pointless.

    may as well stick to fifa 09 to be honest, youll get more enjoyment from it than this piece of crap!

    #36 6 years ago

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    While you already know the next DLC for Hyrule Warriors will allow you to play as the gigantic beast Ganon, there’s a rather humorous unlockable character contained in it as well. Potential spoilers follow below. When the DLC arrived in Japan February 26, YouTuber moccos-tan IsedelicaAs posted a video of the unlockable character, which is […]

  • Star Trek Online players gather on Vulcan to pay respects to Leonard Nimoy

    Star Trek Online players paid tribute to Leonard Nimoy yesterday by gathering around a fountain on Vulcan, the home planet of Spock in the Star Trek series. According to a post by barnacle999 on reddit, when he logged into the MMO “there were around 20 full instances and several partial,” culminating in around 1000 players […]

  • Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin gameplay video shows invasion of The Forlorn

    A new Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin gameplay video has been released, and provides the viewer with a look at the NPC invader system. Watch below as The Forlorn hunts down the player through the game with “with deadly skill and tenacity.” He even teams up with other enemies, making your fight […]

  • Visual upgrade for Wasteland 2, improved modding tools in the works

    A visual upgrade and improved mod tools are in the works for Wasteland 2, according to a blog post from inXile Entertainment. The upgrades will come about as the game’s codebase is migrated from Unity 4.5 to Unity 5. “A major benefit of moving to Unity 5 is that 5 will include many of the […]

  • Battlefield Hardline brings “Hollywood crime drama” to single-player campaign

    In the fifth developer diary for Battlefield Hardline, the team discusses how it’s bringing “Hollywood crime drama” to the shooter’s single-player campaign. The video was released a couple of days ago, so apologies are in order if this has been posted already, but I promise I searched the site and never found it. Visceral Games […]

  • Masquerada: Songs and Shadows is a pause for tactics isometric RPG coming in 2016

    Masquerada: Songs and Shadows is a 2.5D isometric RPG, built in the vein of Baldur’s Gate and Dragon Age in the works at Withing Hour Studios. The game allows the player to pause combat to plan party tactics. “Set in the Venetian-inspired fantasy city of Ombre where rare masks are the key to casting magic, […]

  • Underworld Ascendant surpasses Kickstarter goal

    Underworld Ascendant which was launched on Kickstarter earlier this month, has met its  $600,000 funding goal. With six days left 10,786 backers pledged $610,541 In light of being funded, the team has also switched up the stretch goals as bit, as you can see in the image below. The studio, OtherSide Entertainment, is fronted by Paul Neurath, […]

  • Latest Evolve patch fixes progress and save game data loss on Xbox One

    A patch for Evolve has been released on Xbox One which fixes lost progress and save game data users had reported. The patch also fixes an issue with shadows and flashlight, makes incremental improvements to matchmaking, invites, and rejoining, and there were progressions balance changes. “The issue with lost progress and saved games was mostly […]

  • Online servers for Ridge Racer Unbounded shut down in Europe

    Online functionality for Ridge Racer Unbounded is no longer available, Namco Bandai Europe has announced. Solo mode and the track editor are still playable, minus the sharing options. Ridge Racer Unbounded was released on PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in March 2013. Thanks, MCV.

  • OlliOlli will be a cross-buy title on 3DS and Wii U

    Curve Digital has announced OlliOlli will be a cross-buy title when it releases on 3DS and Wii U. The Roll7 title will be the first third-party title to offer the functionality on the systems. OllliOlli will be released on the eShop March 5 The game launches on Nintendo’s eShop on March 5th, followed by Xbox […]

  • Darkbeast electrifies latest Bloodborne video

    The latest Bloodborne video shows off another monster in the game. This one is Darkbeast and he’s full of electricity. The video is the last of IGN’s month-long coverage of the title.

  • Future Assassin’s Creed games will have greater focus on modern timeline

    Ubisoft plans to focus more on modern timelines in future Assassin’s Creed games, the company suggested during its latest community livestream. During the Twitch stream, one of the lead writers for the Assassin’s Creed series, Darby McDevitt, said the modern timeline for Brotherhood’s town of Monteriggioni could inspire future development. “That only came about because […]

  • Fruit Ninja Kinect 2 is coming to Xbox One next month

    Halfbrick has announced Fruit Ninja Kinect 2 for Xbox One will release next month. The mobile title made its way onto Xbox 360 garnering 1 million downloads as of March 2012. It has a new multiplayer mode for up to four players with Battle and Party modes along with a new progression system. An announcement […]

  • New GTA 5 PC screens – shit the bed!

    Rockstar has pumped out 15 new screens for the PC version of Grand Theft Auto 5. Don’t touch them, because they’re electric. And if you touch them, you’ll get shocked. The PC version of GTA 5 has been delayed until April 14, which both sucks and blows. BUT! There’s a new trailer coming between now […]

  • Sony Japan accidentally erases 20th Anniversary PS4 contest entries

    Sony Japan has accidentally erased all information obtained from PlayStation owners who entered to win a 20th Anniversary PlayStation 4. Those who purchased PlayStation 3, PS4, Vita or Vita TV between December 4 – January 15 were handed a calendar with a code which entered them into the contest. Somehow, all data collected from the […]

  • Hearthstone datamine suggests Blackrock Mountain expansion on the way

    Hearthstone’s next update may be based on World of Warcraft’s Molten Core raid, if datamined information posted on Hearthpwn is spot-on. According to files mined from the latest patch, three new cosmetic card backs are on the way, one of which is called Molten Core. The data suggests that pre-ordering the Blackrock Mountain expansion will […]

  • Using Battlefield Hardline single-player gadgets increases your metagame rewards

    Gadgets contained in Battlefield Hardline’s campaign mode have been detailed, and each provides the player with various ways in which to solve crimes. According to design director Scott Warner, one way to “diffuse” a conflict when confronted with criminal activity is to flash your badge and ordering the criminal to freeze. Putting your gun on […]

  • Mortal Kombat X video is all about story mode, new characters

    After promising a new Mortal Kombat X reveal “soon”, NetherRealm Studios has made good on said promise by releasing the story trailer. The video shows parts of the story mode featuring Mileena, which takes place 25 years after the events of 2011′s Mortal Kombat. Outworld has become a larger threat and new fighters joining the […]

  • Destiny’s shotgun and pulse rifle buffs mean it’s time to rethink your load-out

    Destiny’s most-ignored weapons got major boosts this week. It’s time to start thinking about how to work them into your set-up. Even if you’re used to using scout rifles and sniper rifles as a general loud-out (neither class was touched by 1.1.1), the buffs to pulse rifles and shotguns should make you rethink your contextual […]

  • Battlefield Bad Company 2: five years later, what did it do so right?

    It’s been five years since the release of Battlefield Bad Company 2. What did the much-loved entry in the franchise do for the Battlefield series? Westie’s played Battlefield Bad Company 2 for over 1,260 hours on PS3 and PC. That’s dedication. In his latest video he discusses the stand out moments from a FPS classic, […]

  • War is hell in this Zombie Army Trilogy gameplay trailer

    Here’s five minutes of headshots, shambling zombies and an undead Hitler from Rebellion’s upcoming Zombie Army Trilogy. The Sniper Elite spin-off arrives on PS4, PC and Xbox One March 6 and includes three games (obviously) and a new Horde mode.

  • Titan Souls releases on PS4, Vita, PC on April 14

    Ace indie giant-slayer Titan Souls will be released on PS4, Vita and PC on April 14. Publisher Devolver confirmed the date to Eurogamer. Those of us in Europe will have to wait until a day later for release. Titan Souls is a tough-as-nails indie game where you have one life to slay a giant enemy. […]

  • Destiny weekly update: lowdown on Inferno Crucible, Vault Transfer improvements

    Destiny’s weekly update has made some pretty significant changes – let Arekkz Gaming take you through them. Bungie has revealed the first release date for the new Inferno Crucible mode, and made it a lot easier to access your vault. You should subscribe to Arekkz Gaming. It will improve your life.

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory Feb 27, 28

    It’s Xursday again – what treats does he have for you this week? He’s in the North Tower, to the right of the Stranger’s room. Let’s take a look at the latest weapons and gear from your favourite Destiny trader. No Backup Plans [Titan Gauntlets] – 13SC ATS/8 Arachnid [Hunter Helmet] – 13SC Heart of […]

  • Battlefield Hardline will be stable on PC at launch, Visceral assures

    PC format is “by far the best gaming platform around,” says Hardline producer. “We’re doing what we can to take advantage of people’s different system with the graphics, framerate, controls, etc. We’re not just porting it over.” Battlefield Hardline developer Visceral is reassuring players that there will not be a repeat of the disastrous Battlefield […]

  • Win Pneuma: Breath of Life for Xbox One

    We have 10 download codes for new indie puzzler Pneuma: Breath of Life for Xbox One to give away. The be in with a chance of winning a code, just enter your details below and we’ll pull the winners from the hat on Monday March 2nd, after 2pm GMT. Pneuma: Breath of Life is a […]

  • Life is Strange Episode 2 delayed

    Life is Strange Episode 2 won’t make its expected release date. The first Life is Strange episode released on January 30, and we had expected the second to follow on March 13. Square Enix has since confirmed to Destructoid that the next chapter won’t make its release date. There’s been no word of the new […]

  • Mortal Kombat X: which character will be revealed tomorrow?

    Mortal Kombat X director Ed Boon is teasing a new character reveal. During today’s Mortal Kombat X livestream, NetherRealm said that a new character would be revealed “very soon”. Boon followed up with this teasing tweet suggesting the reveal will occur tomorrow: Very soon? As in tomorrow? :/ — Ed Boon (@noobde) February 26, 2015 […]

  • Halo played by Twitch is an exercise in great patience

    TwitchPlaysHalo is ridiculous. Halo: Combat Evolved is the latest game to be sucked into the “TwitchPlays” phenomenon, and the results are somewhat painful to spectate. If you’re not familiar with the setup, which debuted with TwitchPlaysPokemon, the game accepts commands from the channels’ chat stream. Although it doesn’t have the strategic RPG elements of Pokemon, […]

  • Gold Amiibo sold out, selling at five times RRP on auction sites

    Gold Mario Amiibo are expected to sell for pretty astounding profits on eBay and other auction sites. The Walmart-exclusive Gold Mario Amiibo is already completely sold out. Plenty of people managed to snaffle them to resell, though. There are now dozens of listings on eBay and other auction sites. One of the average asking prices […]

  • Canadian new game prices jump to $75

    Canadian gamers are in for an unpleasant price hike. As spotted by HardcoreGamer, the local Canadian branches of Amazon and EB Games have raised the prices of upcoming games to CAD$75. The CAD$5 increasing comes within a year of prices hitting the CAD$70 point. CAD$75 (£38/€53) currently exchanges for $60, the standard US pricing. The […]

  • New Xenoblade Chronicles X footage shows weather, day-night cycle

    The latest Xenoblade Chronicles X footage shows off a gloriously beautiful world. Xenoblade Chronicles X is Monolith Soft’s first solo Wii U game, and the developer is clearly enjoying being able to build a big open world with all the features we’ve come to expect. Missed the whole Xenoblade thing? Chronicles X is a sort […]

  • Dead Rising: Watchtower teaser talks up the benefits of Zombrex

    Live-action Dead Rising movie Watchtower is almost upon us. Dead Rising: Watchtower will release on Crackle on March 27, and via other digital distributors thereafter. Enjoy the short teaser below, courtesy of IGN.

  • We Happy Few debut hits you upside the face with a frying pan

    Contrast developer Compulsion Games has revealed its next project – the delightfully creepy-looking We Happy Few. We Happy Few is set in “a drug-fuelled, retrofuturistic city in an alternative 1960s England” where “a plucky bunch of moderately terrible people trying to escape from a lifetime of cheerful denial”. Players are tasked with blending in with […]

  • Slender: The Arrival creeping onto PS4, Xbox One in March

    Slender: The Arrival sold like hotcakes on PC and last-gen consoles, so why not terrify yourself on PS4 and Xbox One, too? Slender: The Arrival will release on PS4 on March 24 and on Xbox One on March 25, developer Blue Isle Studios has announced, for $10. No word on that Wii U version, though. […]

  • GOG weekend sale celebrates German debut

    DRM-free games vendor GOG is celebrating its German-language launch with a tasty sale. The sale offers discounts over 25 “German favourites”. Highlights inclue 97% off Deponia, and less steep but still tasty savings on Memoria and Blackguards 1 and 2. The sale will run through March 3, and you do not have to be, speak, […]

  • Humble Weekly Bundle goes back to Japan

    The latest Humble Weekly Bundle is called Made in Japan, and I’m sure you can guess the theme. Pay what you want for Cherry Tree High Complete Pack (PC; Steam or DRM free), Fairy Bloom Freesia (PC; Steam or DRM free) and Influent + Language Pack (Linux, Mac, PC; Steam or DRM free). Pay more […]

  • Capcom “looking into” solutions to Resident Evil: Revelations PC co-op issue

    Resident Evil: Revelations 2 fans should sit tight for a bit, as Capcom is working on some sort of solution to the co-op issue. Resident Evil: Revelations 2 doesn’t have local co-op on PC and fans are pretty mad about that, as it was advertised ahead of release as a key feature. Although Capcom has […]

  • The games industry is disruption, says Assassin’s Creed producer

    Former Assassin’s Creed producer Jade Raymond has characterised the games industry as one long series of upsets. The games industry changes all the time, and that’s one of its best qualities, Raymond said. The ex-Ubisoft leader told Polygon that the reason seh got into games in the first place was because it “is this undefined […]