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	<title>Comments on: No Left 4 Dead PS3&#8230; ever</title>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38469</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EA did that, mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EA did that, mate.</p>
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		<title>By: warlock7</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38468</link>
		<dc:creator>warlock7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Valve for Christ sake.  What does anybody expect?  They hate Sony and they can&#039;t code to save their lives.  Look at the royal FUp of the Orange Box...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Valve for Christ sake.  What does anybody expect?  They hate Sony and they can&#8217;t code to save their lives.  Look at the royal FUp of the Orange Box&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38432</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to the point I made in my post.

In the absence of morriss making a point other than &quot;let&#039;s suppose the opposite could be true&quot; and leaving it at that, I&#039;m going to just assume he&#039;s being contrary. 

He&#039;s capable of providing &lt;i&gt;adequately reasoned&lt;/i&gt; counterpoints when it suits him. He&#039;s equally capable of drive-by trolling and disruptive comments for the hell of it when it suits him.

And, if the opposite is true - it would have to be some almighty coincidence to stumble onto matching figures that weren&#039;t tied to any original sources. But seeing as, without official figures, the contrary view can&#039;t be supported one way or the other, it&#039;s entirely worthless - unless you believe it&#039;s more important to be contrary than to accept a bit of logic or common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to the point I made in my post.</p>
<p>In the absence of morriss making a point other than &#8220;let&#8217;s suppose the opposite could be true&#8221; and leaving it at that, I&#8217;m going to just assume he&#8217;s being contrary. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s capable of providing <i>adequately reasoned</i> counterpoints when it suits him. He&#8217;s equally capable of drive-by trolling and disruptive comments for the hell of it when it suits him.</p>
<p>And, if the opposite is true &#8211; it would have to be some almighty coincidence to stumble onto matching figures that weren&#8217;t tied to any original sources. But seeing as, without official figures, the contrary view can&#8217;t be supported one way or the other, it&#8217;s entirely worthless &#8211; unless you believe it&#8217;s more important to be contrary than to accept a bit of logic or common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonka</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38430</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to what? is the right answer to that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to what? is the right answer to that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38425</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What if they were?&quot; 

Were what?

Or are you just being contrary for the hell of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if they were?&#8221; </p>
<p>Were what?</p>
<p>Or are you just being contrary for the hell of it?</p>
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		<title>By: DrDamn</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38423</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDamn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the 360 port has got hints of afterthought here. Small differences in the 360 version like only your torch lighting up properly and no shot decals on the wall / zombies damage show it was very much primarily a PC designed title. Those things don&#039;t really matter but you&#039;d think they&#039;d have done something to mimic the effects on the 360 rather than take a very PC approach of simply removing them to ensure the target speed was reached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the 360 port has got hints of afterthought here. Small differences in the 360 version like only your torch lighting up properly and no shot decals on the wall / zombies damage show it was very much primarily a PC designed title. Those things don&#8217;t really matter but you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d have done something to mimic the effects on the 360 rather than take a very PC approach of simply removing them to ensure the target speed was reached.</p>
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		<title>By: JPickford</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38413</link>
		<dc:creator>JPickford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably they don&#039;t have any PS3 tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably they don&#8217;t have any PS3 tech.</p>
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		<title>By: onyxbox</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38406</link>
		<dc:creator>onyxbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TF2 ran ok and didn&#039;t have the lag problems that 360 initially suffered, it was quite popular to start with but then died off.

That coupled with Valve dropping support for the &#039;port&#039; meant patching TF2 was down to EA (from what I can remeber) and that probably put the nail in the cofin for TF2 (PS3).

I haven&#039;t booted it up latley to see how popular it is these days.

But the bottom line is that it ran ok, I couldn&#039;t see any difference between PS3 and 360.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TF2 ran ok and didn&#8217;t have the lag problems that 360 initially suffered, it was quite popular to start with but then died off.</p>
<p>That coupled with Valve dropping support for the &#8216;port&#8217; meant patching TF2 was down to EA (from what I can remeber) and that probably put the nail in the cofin for TF2 (PS3).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t booted it up latley to see how popular it is these days.</p>
<p>But the bottom line is that it ran ok, I couldn&#8217;t see any difference between PS3 and 360.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38404</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if they were?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if they were?</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38402</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Were those reports accurate?&quot;

Unless they were sourced from EA&#039;s server logs, Sony&#039;s server logs or Valve&#039;s server logs the answer can only be &quot;no&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Were those reports accurate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless they were sourced from EA&#8217;s server logs, Sony&#8217;s server logs or Valve&#8217;s server logs the answer can only be &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38400</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was Team Fortress 2 like on the PS3? If that worked okay then I don&#039;t see any reason why Left 4 Dead wouldn&#039;t.

Then again, I seem to remember seeing reports suggesting that TF2 was &#039;completely dead&#039; on PSN, which might act as a potential barrier to L4D making it across. Were those reports accurate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was Team Fortress 2 like on the PS3? If that worked okay then I don&#8217;t see any reason why Left 4 Dead wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Then again, I seem to remember seeing reports suggesting that TF2 was &#8216;completely dead&#8217; on PSN, which might act as a potential barrier to L4D making it across. Were those reports accurate?</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38399</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes it’s rather difficult to show their PS3 guys aren’t up to snuff when they don’t have any.&quot;

So Esha was wrong?!!! Unpossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes it’s rather difficult to show their PS3 guys aren’t up to snuff when they don’t have any.&#8221;</p>
<p>So Esha was wrong?!!! Unpossible.</p>
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		<title>By: onyxbox</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38398</link>
		<dc:creator>onyxbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the orange box problems were over exaggerated IMO, I played it on both 360 and PS3 and appart from a couple of scenes where the game got a bit choppy there was nothing in it.

it certainly wasn&#039;t quite as good as the 360 version but the differences were tiny in the long run.

I hope EA do find a way to get this onto PS3 next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the orange box problems were over exaggerated IMO, I played it on both 360 and PS3 and appart from a couple of scenes where the game got a bit choppy there was nothing in it.</p>
<p>it certainly wasn&#8217;t quite as good as the 360 version but the differences were tiny in the long run.</p>
<p>I hope EA do find a way to get this onto PS3 next year.</p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38313</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They’ll just let EA fuck it up for them if it’s going to happen.&quot;

Quoted for most accurate post, &lt;i&gt;for once&lt;/i&gt;  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They’ll just let EA fuck it up for them if it’s going to happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quoted for most accurate post, <i>for once</i>  <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Whizzo</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38302</link>
		<dc:creator>Whizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it&#039;s rather difficult to show their PS3 guys aren&#039;t up to snuff when they don&#039;t have any.

Valve are a PC focused company, they always have been and they always will be, consoles are a sideshow to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it&#8217;s rather difficult to show their PS3 guys aren&#8217;t up to snuff when they don&#8217;t have any.</p>
<p>Valve are a PC focused company, they always have been and they always will be, consoles are a sideshow to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38299</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valve doesn&#039;t really have any PS3 coders... so they&#039;re not even going to attempt the port themselves anyway.  They&#039;ll just let EA fuck it up for them if it&#039;s going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valve doesn&#8217;t really have any PS3 coders&#8230; so they&#8217;re not even going to attempt the port themselves anyway.  They&#8217;ll just let EA fuck it up for them if it&#8217;s going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Esha</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38298</link>
		<dc:creator>Esha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t exclusive territory though.  This is Valve&#039;s position, which is basically that: &lt;i&gt;We don&#039;t want to humiliate ourselves by proving that our stable of coders isn&#039;t up to snuff by knocking out only a half-arsed PS3 port because they&#039;re not smart enough to grok PS3 hardware.  If we don&#039;t release anything, people can&#039;t accuse us of anything.  Dig?&lt;/i&gt;

S&#039;been that way for a while, now.

EA is going to point and laugh at them, and then release their own port (as EA does, they&#039;re EA after all).  Hopefully EA&#039;s coders have learned something from the Orange Box, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t exclusive territory though.  This is Valve&#8217;s position, which is basically that: <i>We don&#8217;t want to humiliate ourselves by proving that our stable of coders isn&#8217;t up to snuff by knocking out only a half-arsed PS3 port because they&#8217;re not smart enough to grok PS3 hardware.  If we don&#8217;t release anything, people can&#8217;t accuse us of anything.  Dig?</i></p>
<p>S&#8217;been that way for a while, now.</p>
<p>EA is going to point and laugh at them, and then release their own port (as EA does, they&#8217;re EA after all).  Hopefully EA&#8217;s coders have learned something from the Orange Box, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38295</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bioshock</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bioshock</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38279</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The demo is brilliant. Can&#039;t wait for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The demo is brilliant. Can&#8217;t wait for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cullen</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38278</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, his word dont mean shit. it still could come to the PS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, his word dont mean shit. it still could come to the PS3.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpha Male Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/11/10/no-left-4-dead-ps3ever/comment-page-1/#comment-38273</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpha Male Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;Many people say that they heard rumors that Left 4 Dead is coming to PS3, however despite telling them this isn&#039;t true they still don&#039;t believe us, what more can we say than it is not,&quot;

We know it&#039;s not coming to the PS3...that doesn&#039;t meant it won&#039;t come to the PS3. EA won&#039;t turn their noses up at this once the sales pile up on the 360.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Many people say that they heard rumors that Left 4 Dead is coming to PS3, however despite telling them this isn&#8217;t true they still don&#8217;t believe us, what more can we say than it is not,&#8221;</p>
<p>We know it&#8217;s not coming to the PS3&#8230;that doesn&#8217;t meant it won&#8217;t come to the PS3. EA won&#8217;t turn their noses up at this once the sales pile up on the 360.</p>
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