Fallout 3 for pre-order on Steam now

Far Cry 2 is also available on Steam too – for us Europeans!

Seems like the only game from Ubisoft, but it’s a start!

Bah, i’ll be picking it up as a solid copy, CE to boot. Full games thru digital distribution; it just isnt right…

I buy all my games through steam now.
And no need for DVD and/ or DRM and/or go to a store.
wonderfull stuff really.

ow yeah, Fallout 3 has been added to your games list.

If I do end up buying it, I’ll get it on Steam.

You’re all just to lazy to go to the store lol.

@Gekidami: Or we just see that not only is steam got decent prices its instant and doesn’t come with some crappy DRM on a disc.

Unlimited installs plus games are automatically updated if updates are available. Steam really is less hassle than getting it from a store.

David, the entire CONCEPT of Steam is DRM. It’s just fluffily hidden amongst other stuff.

People’s understanding of what DRM actually is (in particular the “R” bit) is woefully poor and generally conducted from a self-serving perspective.

Disasterful Rabbit Mage?

Steam doesn’t limit your installs or how many machines it can be installed on. Yes it attaches the game to your account but its hardly anything to get up and arms about. I have 3 computers and all my steam games are installed on all of them and I’ve installed those games multiple times in the past.

Steam to me is a no hassle good priced service.

Shatner, what does you mean by the self-serving comment?

I don’t have a problem with DRM or the principles of DRM.

But if you hoped to disprove what I just posted by your most recent post I’m sorry to say you’ve done rather the opposite.

Perhaps comparing Steam to GoG.com will help highlight the differences.

Ask yourself this: what do you think the main appeal of Steam is to games publishers? What does it offer them that conventional sales methods don’t?

Hunam, it means that, when attempting to (mis)understand DRM most people refuse to look at what DRM is from a perspective other than their own. They’re only concerned with what it means to them rather than the other parties affected by DRM. Then they’ll typically go on to act like a misunderstood victim and get hugely offended if anyone suggest they consider anyone but themselves in their appraisals. Heck, just the basic concept of ownership is usually a lost cause in these things.

Shatner yes it offers security to the publishers and I’m all for that. But its not intrusive to the gamer either it just merely attaches the game to your account nothing more nothing less. I’ve not had a single problem with it and its never once said I can’t install a game on such and such machine.

That’s fair enough David. I like Steam too and have had nothing but positive experiences with it.

However, your anecdotal evidence is likely to be echoed by over a million legitimate Spore owners too. They won’t have found the DRM intrusive to them one bit. Amazing eh? Consideirng the fuss so many crybabies kicked up about it a few weeks back. The majority, it seems, who hadn’t even got the product or been exposed to its DRM!

An anecdotal contrast: When Halflife 2 came out it was attached to your Steam account. Even the boxed version. My friend bought Halflife 2 and (amazing but true) he had no ISP at the time. He was unable to play the game he had bought. He couldn’t even play it a single time.

So, for some people, their experience with Steam will not be the same as yours.

I guess thats a fair point. I’m just a steam junky. I like steam because it gives both the publisher security as well as the gamer not feeling short changed.

Hmmm, interesting view. However, should the publisher be asking the customer to consider them? It seems a strange logic, you want to shift the product and make money so you need the customers, however it seems a strange practice to expect the customer to come half way with the seller. At the end of the day the customer is parting with cash for something that is not a necessity.

I personally don’t like DRM, but I understand the position of the sellers and I know that at the moment its the only thing they have to protect themselves. Troika going down because of the lack of protection on Vampire Bloodlines was a travesty and if DRM would have kept them going then i’d have been for it. However it is a buyers right to be selfish and I think that all the entertainment industries are forgetting this and so alot of honest customers are starting to feel a little more despondent. PC gaming just seems to be going the way of the music industry.