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  1. Truk

    There’s a lot of crap on that screen. Why put the experience points above the hit enemy, for starters?

    #1 6 years ago
  2. DrDamn

    Because it’s based on damage you do not just the kill (bit like CoD5) and that is a more sensible place to put it?

    #2 6 years ago
  3. David

    Hmm watching that kind of tarnished my view on it a little.

    #3 6 years ago
  4. Truk

    DrDamn: Yeah, I understand what it is. I just don’t understand why that sort of information needs to be on screen at all. I want to pretend I’m killing aliens. I don’t want background data separate from the game world to be filling the screen. Makes it look like they’re playing in debug.

    #4 6 years ago
  5. Shatner

    Doubtful about debug mode. You’d have a shitload more info on screen than that. Most of it largely nonsensical.

    #5 6 years ago
  6. morriss

    I should be getting my code tomorrow. Be interested to check it out.

    #6 6 years ago
  7. OrphanageExplosion

    It’s all about the levelling. The information isn’t intrusive when you’re actually playing it. You become an XP junkie and seeing it rack up is very satisfying.

    I was VERY impressed with the netcode by the way; probably the least laggy FPS I’ve played online.

    #7 6 years ago
  8. reask

    The shields remind me of halo 3.

    #8 6 years ago
  9. G1GAHURTZ

    That looks terrible.

    #9 6 years ago
  10. Gekidami

    Says G1GA”360-fanboy”HURTZ.

    #10 6 years ago
  11. Robo_1

    Since getting into UT3, I find it really difficult to return to 30FPS multiplayer. Your reaction speed just gets so dulled, that if somebody starts shooting you from behind, it’s frustrating not being able to spin on the spot and blast ‘em.

    I’ve put a good few hours into the Beta, and the DM’s and so seem standard fare. You can see the CoD4 inspirations, but it seems messy and sloooow, can’t say I was too wowed by it.

    The co-op on the other hand is going to be huge. The class system brings a level of co-operation I’ve never experienced before in a game, and the tactful play which results in the different player skills makes the whole play experience so much more fun. You feel like an indispensable member of the team, with a real part to play, as opposed to just an extra gun.

    The graphics are fine, not jaw dropping but not sub-standard either, and the sound is fantastic.

    I was buying this game for the single player, but I think the co-op is going to be the real star of the show.

    #11 6 years ago
  12. G1GAHURTZ

    “Says G1GA”360-fanboy”HURTZ.

    The thing looks terrible.

    What do you want me to do… lie just for you?

    #12 6 years ago
  13. Robo_1

    Terrible is an exaggeration though.

    #13 6 years ago
  14. Truk

    Shatner: I’m familiar with debug spew, which is why I said “like debug mode” :-P

    It looks very pretty (terrible? visually? surely not), just too much immersion-spoiling crap on screen. Maybe it’s the kids and their e-penis measuring contests that’s led to this. ;-)

    #14 6 years ago
  15. Psychotext

    I hope that’s on easy. AI looks dumb as a brick.

    #15 6 years ago
  16. Quiiick

    @ Psychotext
    Dumb AI? What AI? It’s the multiplayer shown here !!!

    #16 6 years ago
  17. David

    @quiick the majority of that gameplay is coop and the AI looked really dumb.

    #17 6 years ago
  18. Psychotext

    Co-operative campaign multiplayer.

    [Edit - David beat me]

    #18 6 years ago
  19. ecu

    It looks really rough, almost like it’s a beta version of the game.

    #19 6 years ago
  20. Blerk

    Well, that looks nice enough if you like that kind of thing. Movement seems a little slow, though. Can you run?

    #20 6 years ago
  21. Gekidami

    You can indeed sprint.

    #21 6 years ago
  22. Blerk

    Well that’s alright, then. :-)

    #22 6 years ago
  23. G1GAHURTZ

    When I said terrible I was referring to the gameplay.

    As others have pointed out, the movement looks slow and clunky. Whoever’s playing it is either really bad at aiming, or there is something wrong with the acceleration on the controls.

    It just seems a bit lightweight, and certainly not worthy of the ‘LBP beating system-seller’ that people have been hyping it up as.

    #23 6 years ago
  24. Gekidami

    I dont know why you even bother commenting G1GA, when it comes to the the PS3 you’ve got a one way opionion and never have anything contructive to say, and when you do try to justify the blantant bias its with complete BS.

    I dont want you to lie, i just want you to shut the fuck up unless you have something of even the littlest of intrest to say, then just a 2 word comment slaming a game you’ve never played and probaly never will.

    #24 6 years ago
  25. Shatner

    /crosses G1GAHURTZ off his Xmas card list

    That’ll learn ya.

    #25 6 years ago
  26. DrDamn

    Gekidami +1 – Sorry to say I’ve rarely seen anything but thinly veiled sniping from G1GA’s posts. The sort of stuff this site has so far been fairly good for avoiding.

    Though GIGA did actually have a valid point in the last post. All FPS’s should allow control over not just the turn speed but acceleration and dead zone – very few do – SOCOM does but I’m struggling to think of more. It’s tough to say from a vid whether this game is at fault though. I’ve been given a Beta key so will find out for myself later … though my copy of Fable 2 looks like it’s going to turn up today :)

    #26 6 years ago
  27. G1GAHURTZ

    No, that’s not what you want me to do.

    You want me to say what a wonderfully amazing console the PS3 is and how amazingly fantastic all of its games are and what a rosy future this tremedous console that Sony has been kind enough to bless us with actually is.

    You’re talking absolute rubbish anyway, because it was only a while ago that I was saying that KZ2 was really looking like it was shaping up to be the kind of game that I’d splash out on a PS3 for. (Since then, however, I’ve heard that it’s not as good as it looks.)

    Anyway, the points that I make are perfectly valid, and none of them are unreasonable.

    I’m not just going to stop commenting on games just for your benefit. If there are bad games on the PS3, then there are bad games on the PS3. I didn’t put them there.

    I didn’t make Haze a bad game, or give Heavenly Sword bad reviews, or take the gameplay out of Lair, or mess up Time Crisis 4 (I might have got a PS3 for that if it managed to get a metacritic score higher than 60!) or ruin any of the other games that you find on the PS3.

    It wasn’t me who did that, and I’m certainly not going to refrain from commenting on them just to make you happy, because you’re trying to brainwash yourself into thinking that the PS3 is going to emerge from it’s great coma and rule over this generation of consoles with it’s Blu-Ray powered sword and an army of AAA exclusives.

    If it’s not happening, don’t blame me.

    Blame Sony.

    #27 6 years ago
  28. Shatner

    I blame morriss.

    #28 6 years ago
  29. G1GAHURTZ

    LOL

    #29 6 years ago
  30. Johnny Cullen

    “I blame morriss.”

    I blame Pat tbh.

    #30 6 years ago
  31. Esha

    “[...] you’re trying to brainwash yourself into thinking that the PS3 is going to emerge from it’s great coma and rule over this generation of consoles with it’s Blu-Ray powered sword and an army of AAA exclusives.”

    What are you on about, Gigs? I didn’t see Gekidami claiming that at all, just that you do have a reputation for being a bit on the negative side when it comes to the PS3. I’d say you’re a ted defensive. But what are you being defensive about?

    Good grief, that paragraph reads almost like a religious text.

    #31 6 years ago
  32. Shatner

    The parallels between fanatical console rants and religious fervour are actually disturbingly common when you give it some thought.

    #32 6 years ago
  33. Shatner

    Allow me to expand:

    Certain people are treated as gods whose whorshippers will dispute any and all criticism of and preach their teachings to the masses. Fanatics will spend hours, days, weeks at their place of worship. They’ll declare a digital jihad on the followers of opposing faiths. They’ll dismiss all other gods but their own as false idols and will quote endlessly from the scriptures of specific evangelists of their own faith.

    Games and religion. Not so far removed as you might like to think.

    #33 6 years ago
  34. morriss

    Deep.

    #34 6 years ago
  35. Blerk

    You’re right. They’re both controlled by rich old men, full of shit, fuelled by fanatics and only really interested in taking your money off you.

    #35 6 years ago
  36. Shatner

    No, you’re thinking of Scientology.

    #36 6 years ago
  37. G1GAHURTZ

    I think that there are just some people who are overly paranoid about “religion” even though they don’t even know what “religion” actually is.

    Taking a totally misunderstood snapshot of modern day European Christianity and then slapping it on every single faith in the world is without question naïve at best, and at worst a display of ignorance of immense proportions.

    As for games an “religion” being the same, then I think that you can apply a variation of ‘fanboyism’ to almost everything.

    You have athiests who troll the internet like drooling, growling rottweilers, looking for the slightest whiff of theism and then launching a tirade of ignorant gibberish as though they were the guardians of all of humanity.

    They have no idea about the science behind evolution theory, nor have their eyes ever glanced a scientific journal, but they continually regurgitate the same old “religion is bad” and “science proved it wrong” mantras in the same way as others would spew fanboy rants against ‘rival’ consoles.

    It’s a type of fanboyism, call it what you will, and even though they might consider themselves to be balanced individuals, the vast majority of human beings suffer from it.

    What are you on about, Gigs? I didn’t see Gekidami claiming that at all, just that you do have a reputation for being a bit on the negative side when it comes to the PS3. I’d say you’re a ted defensive. But what are you being defensive about?

    Good grief, that paragraph reads almost like a religious text.

    What do you want me to do? The majority of news about the PS3 is bad anyway, and I’m certainly not getting paid by Sony to be their spin doctor!

    Religious text?

    You’re just being paranoid fella.

    #37 6 years ago
  38. Shatner

    I wrote my recent posts commenting on games and religion as:

    1) this is a games site
    2) there was a direct reference to religion

    I’m thrilled that this, like almost any theological discourse, is already threatening to spiral in sniping, accusations, bitterness and general tit-for-tat misunderstanding.

    The only downside is that, in context, it practically makes pat the Pope.

    Maybe morriss can die for our sins to compensate?

    Go on moz, you make a great martyr. :D

    #38 6 years ago
  39. G1GAHURTZ

    Sorry for any misunderstanding Shatsy babes, I wasn’t specifically refering to you in that post, but other people in general.

    #39 6 years ago
  40. Shatner

    Damnit! You’ve spoiled it by being reasonable. You must be new to this internet thing.

    #40 6 years ago
  41. DrDamn

    “What do you want me to do?”

    I thought that was fairly clear in Gekidami’s first post.

    I don’t think you are a rabid fanboy – seems to me you were probably actually quite looking forward to getting a PS3 when it was announced. You are one of the many who were very disappointed by the spin, lies and failure to deliver on promises by Sony. They are turning it around though, and it’s a difficult transition to go through to eventually accept that – ok maybe there is enough stuff there now to warrant my money – when there are still strong feelings of disappointment. You are not ready to forgive yet and the anger means you like to pick holes in the smallest slip-up or mistake to justify your feelings. Amiright? :)

    #41 6 years ago
  42. morriss

    Where’s the turn-around? When did it start? :)

    Seriously, though. When?

    #42 6 years ago
  43. Shatner

    You only need one game per system to make it worthwhile.

    PS3 has Super Stardust
    360 has Space Giraffe

    Everything else is a waste of your time.

    #43 6 years ago
  44. Tonka

    Religion is pointless though. Almost like owning a PS3 and an Xbox.

    #44 6 years ago
  45. Shatner

    No. Religion is as pointless as owning a Wii!

    #45 6 years ago
  46. G1GAHURTZ

    “Amiright?”

    LOL.

    Almost.

    I was totally hyped when I first saw KZ2 at E3 2005, and I was really looking forward to the next generation of consoles and having an amazing PS3 with 2 HDMI ports and and a WiFi router and all of the bells and whistles.

    True 1080p HD gaming FTW!

    And I do still feel a bit peed off that it was all just a bunch of lies.

    They LIED TO ME!!!

    But I’m not bitter… lol.

    No, seriously, I’m not bothered about all that. I spend most of my time playing my 360 on LIVE and very little caring about who’s doing what on their PS3.

    But I won’t deny that it’s sometimes a bit of a laugh to see the responses of people who used to thing that the PS3 would just take off exactly where the PS2 ‘stopped’.

    They’re still waiting.

    They’re like Spurs fans.

    ‘We’ll finish 4th next season!’

    lol, yeah right…

    #46 6 years ago
  47. Psychotext

    Oh no… taking the piss out of religion is one thing but insulting Wii fanatics? It’s over for you now Shatner.

    May God / Deity x / Miyamoto have mercy on us all.

    #47 6 years ago
  48. Smartypants

    To be fair, Wii fanatics deserve no better. Bunch of queer waggle-lovers.

    #48 6 years ago
  49. Tonka

    I will find you all and behead you with my fancy Wiimote to sword converter.

    #49 6 years ago
  50. Shatner

    Yesssssssss..

    Let the hate flow!!! Let it consume you!!!

    Mwahahaha

    #50 6 years ago
  51. Truk

    It really bothers me that people care this much.

    #51 6 years ago
  52. Syrok

    Yay, I still can’t stand shooters. :)

    (Mainly because I suck)

    #52 6 years ago
  53. Tonka

    I get terrible hangovers from shooters. Prefer beer myself.

    #53 6 years ago
  54. DrDamn

    Had a little play with the Beta this lunchtime. Can’t really comment too much on the gameplay aspects aside from controls as I was only playing offline by myself. Couple of points though :-

    1) Graphically it looks really nice. It’s got a silky frame rate and a significant step up in texture quality from the first game. A lot more use of shader effects too – I think the first was completely devoid of them – but it’s got good spot effects which are crucially not over used.
    2) Controls I found fine tbh, though I prefer a 360 controller for FPS, it was smooth and responsive.
    3) The game mode largely displayed above is very specific to co-op play and seems heavily focused on throwing lots of enemies at you. It’s not something you should base your opinion of the whole game on. Even as single player there were hoards of the Chimera after you – very Doomy – in a good original Doom not Doom 3 kind of way.

    #54 6 years ago