I only played through the game a couple of years back when I was going through my last gen collection and checking out all the games I never gave proper time to. You wouldn’t BELIEVE how much Gears of War owes to Manhunt’s cover system. Shocking!

I’m working on the assumption that, like many many many many many many many games, what they’ve shown you is stuff from one environment. Uncharted – we saw nothing but jungle and walls but there was more to it than that. MGS4 was all Middle East but it was far more varied. Bioshock was.. oh. No, Bioshock was pretty much all the same.

Going on the first Killzone I would expect to see some considerable variety in the environment.

For anyone interested, you can read:

http://www.guerrilla-games.com/publications/dr_kz2_rsx_dev07.pdf

Which pretty much describes how Guerilla are using PS3 to make KZ2 look like it does.

umm, tons more characters on screen, much better lighting, more objects, but engine look mostly remains the same.

All this about resistance, when legendary looks better

Would have been if it made any sense. UE3 is a rather ugly engine other than it’s lighting, and it’s clear the PS3 can use it, and will use it as effectively as the 360 if it’s the lead platform (Mirrors Edge anyone?).

I am quick to dismiss Gears because the graphical increase between Gears and Gear 2 is nonexistent, while Resistance and Resistance 2 there is a much larger jump in graphics. Certainly in texture detail in those Gamekyo vids.

No. You know what they tell you. That’s not necessarily the full picture.

“Oh, and for the love of god please don’t bother arguing with me Shatner. I’m neither Pat nor Morriss, I can’t be arsed.”

I practice equal oppurtinities. I don’t discriminate (pat) and I don’t reply based on who says something, I reply based on what was said. If what was said contradicts what I know then I’ll respond accordingly.

This comments section is going into fanboy apocalypse anyway. The crap being spouted on both sides is lolsome.

Oh, and you’re too quick to dismiss Gears just because it’s built on UE3. Which is odd really, because you’re talking up Resistance 2, which is built on the Resistance 1 engine with enhancements (texture streaming, detail maps, lighting system etc). You might even say it hurts SOME people’s credibility…

Yes, I know that was low.

And you are totally right HS did suffer from those things, it’s a great point, because it goes to

Anyway, let me put it this way, I think the aesthetic of Resistance 2 is ass. I am not buying the game. It looks awful to me. Gears 2 will do as little for me as Gears did, but I can see the artistic direction is far superior. But technically, what Resistance 2 is doing is amazing. And the graphics are truly superb.

It really hurts SOME people credibility here when they say it isn’t head and shoulders above the original. The particle effects and dustiness is amazing.

(I have… I’m just wondering if you know it)

…and yeah, I’ve seen pretty much everything out there on R2 (check gamersyde for much higher quality vids). It’s not doing anything COD4, Gears 2 or Far Cry 2 isn’t doing.

Just watch this R2 vid maybe you haven’t seen it:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40347.html

KZ2 developed from the ground up, Gears 2 based on a pre-existing engine.

Your kidding right. Seriously now, it looks barely a notch above the first, which was solid but not good looking.

Haze obviosuly festered in develpment hell a little while too long, it’s not as if the game itself was good either. And Lair, like many you haven’t even played the game (it looks stunning), nor have you played the others.

Halo 3 was what it was by design. It did not feature a from scratch renderer for 360, but it still did a bang up job. No disappointment at all there.

Artistically it’s an awful mess, but graphically it’s superb.

But you’re right – using it to judge a games worth is pointless. Using it as a benchmark of what others can achieve without the same budget and timescales is pointless too.

Oh, and the rest of the DL disk is reserved for security (lol, that worked).

Pud: You might as well ask why it didn’t happen with Resistance, or Haze, or Lair, or Heavenly Sword. Oh, and you need your eyes tested if you think resistance 2 is a graphical powerhouse. Take a look at the vids we’ve seen rather than the bullshots.

Why did that not happen with Halo 3?

Why do other games not look as impressive. Time and money are one thing, but even Resistance 2 looks graphically better than most games on the 360.

I know of a game that’s been in development for nigh-on three years and is yet to be announced.

Far Cry 2 was in development over 18 months before the first whiff of a teaser was ever given.

There is stuff going on RIGHT NOW that you won’t see until some of you reach the other side of puberty. Just imagine!

Furthermore, development time is as completely a fucked up way of judging a game’s worth as how many hours of play it has.

Seriously people, you’re so fucking wrapped up on which piece of silicon is running a piece of software you’ll make some absolutely hilarious arguments to sound justified in your claims.

Here’s the kicker: MOST STUFF IS DEVELOPED ON PCS RUNNING LINUX OR UNIX

5 dvds would cost a little more than a dual layer blu-ray (only a dollar or so based on the last set of numbers I saw)… but packaging would be a complete and utter bitch. They’d probably have to sell it in a pretty unique case and price accordingly.

Quite honestly outside of BD-ROM’s space advantage and its SPU/Cell FPU numbers, which have proven to be worthless for gaming, the 360 has the PS3 beat.