Comments on: TGS: “Riled” Schappert goes on offensive against “innovation criticism”

By: furianboy

furianboy — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:20:12 +0000

to a lot of people, by supporting the company that killed off the dreamcast in the first place, you’ve already shrugged off your pride and dignity.

By: Esha

Esha — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:24:07 +0000

I like what PUD said, there. Microsoft are great at being behind things that lots and lots of people like, but they’re not really all that good at backing things which really do try to reach and grasp beyond the gaming norm. That’s why I back Sony, and it’s why I backed Sega back in the days of the Dreamcast.

I want to call it transgaming, but that’d be irreverently cheesy, and it’s trademarked.

I’m glad of pat’s first post there too, and a number of the ones that followed. I thought this would be another case where I’d be a lone crusader against the idiocy and the evils of the gaming industry today. This time, I’m actually glad to see that I’m not alone. Honestly…

Online is something the X-Box invented? As pat said, it was available on the N64, it was also available on the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast was also responsible for one of the industry’s first console-based MMOs: Phantasy Star Online. Online gaming was borne of those roots, and it’s an affront to the pedigree of Nintendo and Sega who were truly responsible for these things.

I’m hoping he’ll try this again, I’m actually wondering what’s left. Will he try to claim that the X-Box (original) was the first console to utilise DVD technology? Will he perhaps argue that wireless controllers appeared first for the X-Box and were seen on no other console first? I’m just curious.

Again… I’m not hating, it’s just that this is the reason I can’t own an X-Box. I want to play Fable II, but to do so I’d have to shrug off all my pride and dignity. And no game is worth that.

By: furianboy

furianboy — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:18:25 +0000

The dreamcast was also the first to do Broadband gaming with the the add-on where you could swap out the 56k modem for an Ethernet jack.

And since nobody mentioned it, Gamecube was first with wireless controllers.

what else in that list hasn’t been picked though yet.

By: G1GAHURTZ

G1GAHURTZ — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:07:27 +0000

Oh man!

I knew someone would do that!

lol.

By: yupyup

yupyup — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:06:08 +0000

The internet *never* forgets.

By: Doomsayer

Doomsayer — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:03:29 +0000

Maybe you forgot about quake3 on the dreamcast which was an online fps

By: G1GAHURTZ

G1GAHURTZ — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:53:26 +0000

Maybe he meant to say: ‘online FPS’s in your living room’, since nobody did that before Halo 2.

Or is someone going to tell me that there was some online budget FPS on the Jaguar or something??

By: furianboy

furianboy — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:38:57 +0000

“It’s the console that arguably pioneered first-person shooters in your living room, wireless controllers… I could go on.

Turok, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark disagree.

By: JonFE

JonFE — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:36:06 +0000

They surely innovated getting a hard disk in every Xbox – up to that moment people had to purchase expensive memory cards in order to store their saves…

…however they screwed things up by removing it from the x360 Core/Arcade – their second biggest mistake, IMHO, apart from the lacking quality control…

By: No_PUDding

No_PUDding — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:26:51 +0000

cookiejar, I’d say no to that all the way.

Innovative in the console software, Achievements and Gamerscore, for sure.

But other than that, it’s proabably why I really do not want to support Microsoft this generation. There seems to be a shooter that’s really popular, but never anything actually innovative.

That’s Sony’s ground with their fecking weird games that select few people want to play.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:24:11 +0000

Mmmm… PR spreak.

/stabs everyone

By: Doomsayer

Doomsayer — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:22:51 +0000

Maybe someone should lend him his dreamcast, so he can find out about the online features this little beauty had back in the day

By: DaMan

DaMan — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:22:46 +0000

nice PR…

“It’s the console that arguably pioneered first-person shooters in your living room,”
ORLY? what about GoldenEye.
”
wireless controllers… I could go on.”
No you couldn’t..

I say fuck you, Schappert.

By: cookiejar

cookiejar — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:12:22 +0000

Innovation in the console? No
Innovation in some of the Games on it? Perhaps

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:09:35 +0000

… apart from achievements and gamercards, which I really dislike.

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:08:51 +0000

““You’ve got the Xbox, which is the console that pioneered hard drives, broadband gaming, online gaming, Achievements and gamercards. It’s the console that arguably pioneered first-person shooters in your living room, wireless controllers…”

Sorry, but I wouldn’t call THAT innovation!
They helped in making these features popular but they did not invent them!

By: patlike

patlike — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:05:07 +0000

I’m pretty sure I played DOOM and Turok on my N64. Just saying.