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Yahoo! says “Sony is in serious trouble”

Sunday, 21st September 2008 10:02 GMT By Mike

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David Marcus, of Yahoo! gaming video magazine Playback, has said that after going from first to last place in just two console cycles, “Sony is in serious trouble this generation.”

Playback’s latest instalment is supposed to be a handy guide to buying a console this Christmas, and reckons that Blu-ray no longer justifies PS3′s high price tag as cheaper players are now entering the market.

On the other hand, Wii demand is going to stretch stocks again this Christmas, says the programme, and apparently “there’s never been a better time to buy Microsoft’s concave console,” after 360′s latest round of price cuts.

Full thing after the break.

By Mike Bowden

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106 Comments

  1. Syrok

    Shame they forget to mention that it actually depends on the games and not the hardware.

    #1 6 years ago
  2. morriss

    Not if you’re looking for value for money it doesn’t.

    #2 6 years ago
  3. sickpuppysoftware

    Yahoo would know all about going from first to last. Maybe they should google their history ;)

    #3 6 years ago
  4. Syrok

    @morriss: What value is has a gameconsole for you if you can’t play any games you like on it. ;)

    #4 6 years ago
  5. morriss

    You’re imagining everyone who buys console this Christmas will be a “gamer”.

    #5 6 years ago
  6. morriss

    sickpuppy: :D

    #6 6 years ago
  7. Syrok

    @morris: Not necessarily, but most of them will be people who want to play games. Sure, there are also the kids who saw that cool Wii/360/PS3 and their friends place and are forcing their parents to buy that console even if they don’t know or care what games there will be. On the other hand you get the people who buy the console to use it as a DVD/Blu-Ray player, but those people won’t buy a Wii, because it can’t play DVDs, not a 360 because there are cheaper DVD players, maybe a PS3 but I think that is unlikely if they see a cheaper BluRay player and know that they will only use it as a BD player.
    So as I said in the beginning the majority of the buyers will be people who want the console for (a) specific game(s)

    #7 6 years ago
  8. morriss

    It’s too expensive and nothing it offers can justify the price difference, imo.

    No-one cares about Blu Ray.

    #8 6 years ago
  9. Gamoc

    …Says the guys that called themselves ‘Yahoo!’.

    #9 6 years ago
  10. morriss

    they’ve got a point, imo.

    #10 6 years ago
  11. Syrok

    If no one cares about Blu Ray than Marcus argument fails. I agree that those who care about Blu Ray will already have bought a device that can play them and are not likely to get one/buy one themselves for Christmas and I agree that it’s too expensive in comparison with the other consoles, but that – to come to original argument that the Blu Ray player doesn’t justify the consoles price – doesn’t mean the price is too high.
    I’m not arguing for or against a certain console, all I’m saying is that Sony may not be able to lower the price because of production costs, previous loses or what not. I think if they were in really serious trouble they would lower the price but it looks like they think that they can cope with it and do not expect to be in trouble.

    (Does this still make sense?)

    #11 6 years ago
  12. morriss

    No. It doesn’t.

    Imagine you’re a parent and have promised your child a console this Christmas. Most likely a Wii.

    Now chances are Wii’s are gonna be hard to find. With their £200 hey can buy a 360 and a couple of games or go home empty handed and Jimmy doesn’t get a games machine this Christmas.

    If you’re sales man and trying to flog a PS3 as you get higher commission, try and honestly think about how you would try and justify the higher price to them. Them=people who don’t give a shit about wi-fi, blu-ray and free online.

    #12 6 years ago
  13. morriss

    Also, check these amazon.co.uk prices:

    Samsung Blu Ray Player – £165
    Microsoft Xbox 360 Arcade – £120

    Compared to:

    Sony Playstation 3 – £285

    #13 6 years ago
  14. Syrok

    I’m not saying anyone should buy the PS3, I’m saying that the price is, in my opinion, still valid. But, yes the average parent/wouldn’t grab the PS3 simply because the price is higher.

    (NB: If I took the figures of Amazon the actual video console in the PS3 would cost something around 120 pound, too.;))

    #14 6 years ago
  15. morriss

    well we disagree. I don’t think it’s worth the money when compared to what else is available.

    #15 6 years ago
  16. Syrok

    :)

    #16 6 years ago
  17. reask

    Bottom line is Sony will cut the price if it’s not selling.

    #17 6 years ago
  18. soong

    @reask: Sony would love to cut the price some more, but the bottom line is: at the moment they simply can’t. That’s why we have hundreds of SKUs to choose from; they can’t cut the price, but they can keep repackaging it. There have been a lot of articles about that, just google it. Can’t believe you didn’t know that tbh.

    #18 6 years ago
  19. wz

    I guess Sony has to bring the PS3 price down to a competitive level soon. Since we’re seeing a massive drop in BD player prices, it might be possible that Sony can reduce the production cost of their units too.

    #19 6 years ago
  20. morriss

    soon=October latest, imo.

    #20 6 years ago
  21. Robo_1

    Time will tell I suppose.

    There’s no denying that at it’s current price tag, 360 makes a formidable opponent to PS3 this year, and as is rightly pointed out, if you can get a Blu-Ray player for a little over half a PS3, then it’s lost that market to some extent.

    Games are still the driving force behind moving consoles though, and if Sony can get enough people excited about their Christmas line up, (LittleBigPlanet being a stand out title) then they should do well enough.

    I do think it’s rather foolish of Sony to enter the Christmas period without some sort of PS3 price drop. If nothing else it captures headlines and rejuvenates interest in the brand, and even if they could only manage 50 pound, then it would probably be enough to stop people who were planning on getting a PS3 switching to 360 due to the huge price differential.

    I also think Sony should bang the drum more about stuff like built in wireless, free online, no need to buy recharge packs for controllers etc. PS3 is a lot more expensive than 360 now, but there are reasons for it too, and the more they talk up Blu-Ray as being the differentiating factor, the more it leads people to believe that that is the only difference.

    #21 6 years ago
  22. wz

    I really don’t think anyone not technophile cares about what great amount of €60 games you could buy if you had to spend €400 on a console, when right next to it, there’s a €200 console with an equally good archive of games.

    Besides, you really think the price of the PS3 makes it a gift a lot of parents can buy? Even the 360 is some expensive gift, methinks.

    #22 6 years ago
  23. absolutezero

    Ive never ever heard of any parent spending £200 on something their child never even wanted in the first place.

    Child wants a Wii, parent will not waste that amount of cash on something thats slightly similar and is an unknown property with the child.

    What games would they buy with this 360 anyway? Viva Pinata 2 aaaaaaaand Viva Pinata 1? Banjo?

    Also if so much was weighed on value for money then the Wii would have been a horrible failure.

    #23 6 years ago
  24. wz

    absoulutezero: The Wii offers an enormous amount of fun for it’s price, right out of the box, with nothing but Wii Sports and some friends.

    If anything, the Wii shows that people care shit about technology.

    #24 6 years ago
  25. absolutezero

    Which was basically my point.

    Although you need extra Wiimotes. and nunchucks.

    Its really not value for money at all, the hardware is out of date, the games are horribly over-priced for what they are.

    #25 6 years ago
  26. Syrok

    And those who don’t read online magazines or classic paper magazines won’t know that. ;)

    #26 6 years ago
  27. reask

    I think they will do some sort of price cut.

    #27 6 years ago
  28. Archaenon

    It’s up to the software imo. I paid the high price tag for all these systems and haven’t looked back. Either way at some point to play all the good games you will need to buy them.

    As for the price cut , it could use one , I don’t think it will ultimately kill the system though.

    #28 6 years ago
  29. Quiiick

    There’s only 1 pricecut that should happen and that’s the price of games!

    I don’t agree that the price of the PS3 is too high right now just because there are other consoles which are cheaper.
    You want to buy a good but cheap console for christmas? Go buy a PS2!

    @ morriss
    No, kids always know exactly what they want to play! They don’t want just a gaming device. And this holiday season it’s LittleBigPlanet! They will bug their parents to death to get them THIS game.

    #29 6 years ago
  30. Rhythm

    I’d agree with Yahoo here. Even in the UK BR players have just gotten lower than £130. You can buy a Wii or 360 and a seperate BluRay player for less than the price of a PS3. If you really like your games, a Wii60 combo will *still* cost less than a PS3. If Sony think they can still pull significant numbers when they’re charging DOUBLE what Wiis and 360s go for then they’re sorely mistaken.

    @Quiiik – casuals do not care about LittleBigPlanet. there’s no way kids are going to beg anyone for that.

    #30 6 years ago
  31. Robo_1

    The video itself is very lop sided though. It mentions MS’s “great” selection of games this year and the impending dashboard update, whilst the PS3 section dwells on nothing but the price. It pretty much comes across as a 360 advert.

    Why no mention of Home or Sony’s “great” Christmas line up? All seems a bit too MS friendly to be taken seriously.

    #31 6 years ago
  32. Quiiick

    @ Rhythm
    As long as the so called “casuals” (a term which I find utterly overused but not really defined at all) KNOW about “LBP” or “Home”, they will be intrigued!
    So it all depends on Sony’s marketing efforts for this christmas season!

    #32 6 years ago
  33. XDamage

    Seems like we have popped into som alternate reality where MS actually did buy Yahoo. :D

    #33 6 years ago
  34. Quiiick

    @ Rhythm
    No offence, but since when do “casuals” equal “kids” and vice versa?

    #34 6 years ago
  35. furianboy

    exactly, if anything, I thought “casuals” was code for “stupid people”.

    #35 6 years ago
  36. SilentLoner

    Well just seen an advert for fifa 09 which lasted forever on tv and it was a ps3 exclusive ad so that’s a good start for sony.

    #36 6 years ago
  37. morriss

    Quiiick: I agree with Rhythm I’m afraid. The casuals, as in people who don’t follow games games news, don’t care about Home (too fiddly with online stuff for them to care) and LBP won’t sell massive amounts.

    #37 6 years ago
  38. wz

    Huh? Most kids know exactly what they want to play, what else there is, and it’s more often than not the rather elaborate games.

    Unless you’re talking of 6-year-olds.

    #38 6 years ago
  39. morriss

    More often than not it’s racers and shooters.

    #39 6 years ago
  40. Eregol

    I don’t get this whole doom and gloom surrounding the PS3.
    Both the 360 and PS3 have stellar line-ups coming up this year.
    But, apart from Fable, Microsofts first party exclusives seem to offer nothing more than space marines and party game knock offs.
    All of Microsofts re-imaginings and re-inventions are all rip offs of other ideas, while Nintendo and Sony are releasing new ideas and original software.

    Wii – £180 (Amazon price)
    Nunchuk £10
    Additional controller and Nunchuk £55.

    As for Sony’s PS3 value
    PS3 – £285
    New controller – £30 for Sixaxis or £35 for Dualshock 3

    Additionally for the PS3 you get a Blu-ray player, HD video. It can upscale DvDs, for a decent DvD player alongside the Wii that would do the same would push the price right up.

    I’m happy with my PS3, it’s an amazing machine that hasn’t even started to be pushed, Blu-ray means it’s games can be huge thanks to 25Gb of storage. Digital Distribution cannot cope with such large games at this point in time.

    360 surely can’t give much more in terms of how things look on it. And First party Sony games really show that in the right hands the games WILL look better on the PS3 than on the 360. And we’re not even halfway into it’s life cycle.

    #40 6 years ago
  41. No_PUDding

    They’ve got no more a point to say this than with the 360.

    The fact si the 199 price poitn will eb reached and Sony will continue support for the console, ebcuase it’#s selling at this price.

    Early next year I expect a price cut.

    And even the it won’t be the same as MS’s machine.

    #41 6 years ago
  42. SilentLoner

    I do think from the man on the street pov the ps3 is selling well, however I will probably pick up an xbox for fable but I am seriously doubting if I will or not.

    #42 6 years ago
  43. morriss

    Eregol: You’re preaching to the converted. However, it still doesn’t justify the price. All this talk of “huge games on Blu Ray” is wearing a bit thin. I mean, where are they? And how will they ever get made when still many games are developed on 360 and ported over?

    People don’t want to spend a lot of money on potential. They want the finished article.

    Also, the MS exclusives this year are Viva Pinata 2, Fable II, Gears of War 2 and Banjo.

    Not exactly all space marines is it?

    Then there’s the JRPGs, Lost Odyssey Infinite Undiscovery etc.

    Lots to choose from, all different.

    I’m not saying the PS3 doesn’t have a good range, I’m just saying the days of MS exclusives being nothing but shooters are over, imo.

    #43 6 years ago
  44. Syrok

    Just out of interest morriss, what would be the right price, a price point that is in your eyes justified for the Playstation? What do you think should the other two consoles cost?

    #44 6 years ago
  45. Robo_1

    I think both companies have got quality Christmas line ups this year, whichever console you’ve got, you’re not going to go without. Lets spare a thought for the poor Wii only gamers aye!

    … although Disaster: Day of Crisis is looking very promising.

    #45 6 years ago
  46. No_PUDding

    To be honest neither HD consoles can really be bashed. The PS3 is just too expensive. It doesn’t make it in trouble.

    But it certainly needs a price drop.

    MS is trying to increase the 360′s longevity with the software update, so both consoles are going to be going for quite a while longer, there’s not a single company “In serious trouble”.

    #46 6 years ago
  47. morriss

    I think £199.99 is the obvious sweet spot.

    #47 6 years ago
  48. Quiiick

    @ nO_pudDING
    Good point!

    Declaring “Sony is in serious trouble” is complete nonsense!
    Both Sony and Microsoft seem to have finally found a working strategy for this generation (which are completely different by the way), and that’s just fine.

    These doom-sayers from Yahoo are plain idiots.

    #48 6 years ago
  49. Quiiick

    @ morriss
    The real sweet spot is $/€ 149.99. Always was, always will be.

    #49 6 years ago
  50. No_PUDding

    I think £199 is not an obvious sweet spot when they are trying to appeal to a market that is nearing saturation.

    Isn’t it £169 anyway?

    #50 6 years ago
  51. Quiiick

    … but this time around this price point has to reached by a console which includes

    a.) a HDD
    b.) WiFi
    c.) HD-movie playback

    #51 6 years ago
  52. morriss

    Which is why they’re in trouble Quiick. See? ;)

    #52 6 years ago
  53. Quiiick

    No, because:
    a.) they have all this right from the start. (albeit not at 149.99 now.)
    b.) this price point does not have to be reached 2 (europe 1,5) years after launch.

    If Sony manages to reach 149.99 in 2010, all will be fine. There is no need to hurry.

    But if Sony can’t reach this price until christmas 2010, then they may be in trouble.

    #53 6 years ago
  54. morriss

    Ok. You carry on believing that.

    #54 6 years ago
  55. Quiiick

    Yes I do. And maybe, after all is said and done, I’m all wrong. ;)
    We’ll see …

    #55 6 years ago
  56. No_PUDding

    Gotta admit, I am with quiiick.

    Future seems much brighter for Sony at the moment, and not even in relation to lineups, becuase that I believe will seriously chnage. MS have a lot to announce.

    #56 6 years ago
  57. Vahn16

    I’m in Quiiick’s camp on this one. Just because the mainstream audience isn’t sucking your console off the shelves before it can even touch solid ground doesn’t mean that it’s “in trouble.” Like the Gamecube last generation, the HD consoles occupy a fairly lucrative niche. They’re both far from sinking, and attempting to out-Wii the Wii is utterly impossible anyway.

    Plus, with the PS2 and PSP chugging along as well, Sony has a good deal of revenue to work with. The PS3 will reach the pricing “sweet spot” in time, but there’s no need to rush.

    #57 6 years ago
  58. klanger13

    Also, the MS exclusives this year are Viva Pinata 2, Fable II, Gears of War 2 and Banjo.

    Well gears of war 2 is pretty much a shooter along those lines really. Isn’t it?

    Also, I don;t think that looks very strong. I love Viva Pinata – its genius I’m telling you – , Banjo intrigues me, Gears is good but I can;t be doing with the whole WWE thing, and Fable was rubbish – sorry Peter, its a lovely looking game but its really dull. But none of these – with the possible exception of Gears – are system sellers.

    #58 6 years ago
  59. Syrok

    Viva Pinata would be for me.^^

    #59 6 years ago
  60. No_PUDding

    Lineup is important but at the moment it’s irrelevant.

    Especially arguing on a subjective point like that. Personally Viva Pinata is way better than half of the multiplatform shit.

    Basically Sony is sarting to go after a wider audience that MS is tryign to please with products the PS2 introduced.

    PS3 is bringing out news thigns for the casual, that will work as a backlog when it becomes affordable.

    Basically First Party (when you can juggle it, as Sony is infamously good at) is a pivotal part of this market ‘war’.

    #60 6 years ago
  61. Coheno

    I think people put waaay tooo much on the price part of the weight… You know it’s not THE ONLY factor as to why people buy stuff?!

    And the only one who had a valid point in this whole comment section was Quiiick, and he was dismissed fairly quickly, pun unintended! I think LBP, LittleBig Planet could make THE difference! That game COULD be the PS3′s Wii… It’s niche product that everyone will want! I think many underestimate that, if you’re a kid, that game is going to be the coolest thing ever!

    #61 6 years ago
  62. No_PUDding

    Don’t get me wrong the game seems like it will be superb, and can actually be the first step in a revolution.

    But it’s certainly not a system seller or even a proven seller yet.

    I’d say a price point has more effect over a single game. A lineup and a long term investment has more of an effect than a price point though. certainly in this country.

    #62 6 years ago
  63. Coheno

    Yeah a pricepoint has more effect, IF you have a line-up to back it up with! If you don’t have the games, nobody is gonna put out 300 euro’s for it, unless you have a niche, like just off the top of my head, maybe motion controls?!

    #63 6 years ago
  64. Archaenon

    People are so hung up on price more then anything.

    @morriss , I can’t help to think you are waaaaay too biased twoards the 360. It’s got some good games , but lets face it it only has two mentionable Jrpgs , Infinite ( which isn’t really that amazing , but fun ) and Lost Oddysey which I expected to be good because of the team regardless of the system. ( I can’t mention tales , because I only played the demo and wasn’t overly impressed with the copius amounts of button mashing in the battle system )

    I’ll agree with the space pirates shooters , so many of them on the 360. The Wii and the PS3 have more Original games with More Niche Markets and people to appeal to.

    When it comes down to it , all the systems have awesome games. No system is better then the other. Esp for the whole “omg price” argument.

    #64 6 years ago
  65. morriss

    I said that the PS3 has a great line-up too. just said the days of 360=space marine shooter console aren’t as true as they were a year ago.

    And another thing, this whole thread is an “omg price” argument it’s just some people want to debate which console is “best” and it was never about that.

    #65 6 years ago
  66. Coheno

    @Archaenon

    Exactly!

    #66 6 years ago
  67. morriss

    I also think you’re all vastly overestimating the impact LBP will have on the market. Still, as quiick says, let’s just wait and see.

    #67 6 years ago
  68. Syrok

    I’m not to sure about LBP either. I somehow think that it won’t really appeal to “the kids” but rather to older people who are probably be more likely to enjoy creating levels.

    #68 6 years ago
  69. wz

    A shatnerful of comments, guys. Nothing to do on the weekends? :D

    #69 6 years ago
  70. Coheno

    @wz

    Dude it’s a Sunday night…or at least it is in Denmark. So not much to do, but watch some NFL and discuss gaming on the net…

    #70 6 years ago
  71. Syrok

    I have to practice my English somewhere, wz. :)

    #71 6 years ago
  72. wz

    Folks, I’m not any better, no need to be all defensive about it. :D

    Syrok: You’re from Germany too, right? IIRC, Ruhrgebiet, that’s where I’m from as well :) Greetings!

    #72 6 years ago
  73. Syrok

    I used to life just east of the Ruhrgebiet. o/
    Moved away just a month ago though.

    #73 6 years ago
  74. Coheno

    @wz

    :D Wasn’t at all meant as defensive…just to let you now I’m bored, and with nothing better to do… ;)

    #74 6 years ago
  75. No_PUDding

    So we agree, it’s not a good idea for Sega to release the Dreamcast?

    #75 6 years ago
  76. wz

    Well Pud, you know I /do/ love the DC. Maybe we could talk Sony into not releasing PS2 as a competitor?

    Coheno: I’ll mail you a beer :D

    #76 6 years ago
  77. morriss

    I live in Denmark too, Coheno. Whereabouts do you live?

    #77 6 years ago
  78. No_PUDding

    wz, Id’ agree but for me it’s Shadow of the Colossus.

    If Sony stay alive as SCEI/SCEE/SCEA then agreed. I can handle it on a Dreamcast just so long as it exists.

    #78 6 years ago
  79. wz

    So the plan is to travel backwards in time, tell Sony their third console will be beaten even by Nintendo (imagine that at PS2 times!), and talk them into releasing games for the DC.

    #79 6 years ago
  80. ecu

    Jeeeesus. Sony will be fine, of course they will be. I cannot believe the furore this has generated, from what basically is some hack from a shit website.

    #80 6 years ago
  81. Blerk

    ‘kin hell! :shock:

    #81 6 years ago
  82. patlike

    Sunday funday :D

    #82 6 years ago
  83. morriss

    Nothing else to do was there? Sheesh! You people with lives are so full of yourselves.

    #83 6 years ago
  84. Robo_1

    LOL

    Yes I must admit, I did get a surprise when I saw 80 comments were attached! Nothing like an open attack on one of the console manufacturers to get the keyboards clicking :)

    #84 6 years ago
  85. BartonFink

    Wow this really has caused a bit of a shitstorm. Should be interesting in the comments section over on EG if they put the story up there today.

    My 2c if you take the PS3 as a piece of consumer electronics then yes it’s great value as a Blu-ray player and games machine. If you take it just as a games machine in comparison with the other two then the price is not justified.

    What’s so new about this anyway this type of thing has been said from the very inception of the PS3, it’s too expensive because of all this wonderful technology inside and Sony cannot afford to drop the price because they will crucify themselves. They have to bring the price down though if they ever want to come close to the other two this gen.

    Caught between a rock and a very hard place. Are they in trouble though? Maybe.

    #85 6 years ago
  86. morriss

    Saying a console is in “serious trouble” isn’t really an open attack though is it? That’s what’s so funny about all of it.

    #86 6 years ago
  87. morriss

    Barton: it’s new because of 360s recent price drop. It’s an even less attractive financial proposition compared to the competition now. (in terms of being a games machine, not as a piece of consumer electronics).

    #87 6 years ago
  88. BartonFink

    Yup I know. Screwed if they do drop the price and screwed if they don’t.

    #88 6 years ago
  89. Blerk

    No doubt they’ll be ‘adding value’ any day now.

    #89 6 years ago
  90. Robo_1

    @morriss

    Well I agree there’s a difference between laying out the facts and attacking the console, but that Yahoo piece is anything but balanced. As I said earlier, the whole thing comes across as a 360 advert. Why mention the 360′s “great” Christmas line up and then not say anything about the PS3′s?

    It undoes the credibility they have regarding the points that do stick. Anyway, using headlines like ‘serious trouble’ is extremely provocative phrasing to use without any figures to back them up.

    Until we know what sort of impact the latest 360 price cut has had on sales, it could go either way. Hell, I’d even go so far as to say that if the price cut hasn’t helped 360′s fortunes in Europe, then it’s MS who are in serious trouble.

    #90 6 years ago
  91. No_PUDding

    Blerk: :D

    £399 PS3 500gb 3 games and £5000 credit in PSN store.

    #91 6 years ago
  92. Eregol

    @moriss from the 21st
    I was only offering my point of view.
    Granted, I overlooked Viva Pinata, but I still think that the 360 forthcoming line up is devoid of refreshing new ideas.

    And to be honest, whenever we buy a games console aren’t we always paying for potential?
    At release no-one knows what a console can do, it’s only towards the end of year 3 that the real power starts coming out.
    And even at the point of a 5 year life span consoles continue to be pushed.
    As the PS3 grows older the technology used to make it will become cheaper and Sony can drop the price.
    Sony is improving the PS3 service year on year, and lest we forget that Microsoft suffered from poor software and severe hardware problems to begin with (How much did RROD cost and continue to cost?), so, all the money they mad eon the consoles must have been all but eradicated from that severe problem.
    I don’t think Sony are in any trouble at all.

    #92 6 years ago
  93. morriss

    I think they could be in trouble IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT. i.e. it’s too expensive compared to the competition.

    That’s all.

    #93 6 years ago
  94. Shatner

    All these comments about the woes of the PS3 and not a mention of back compatibility?

    You lot are slipping.

    #94 6 years ago
  95. DrDamn

    I tend to think people buy a system more based on the games they want to play rather than the price as such. So you want to play game X on system Y – you wait until you can afford the system.

    Having said that I walked past Currys today and they had signs in the window for both consoles. PS3 £299 next to 360 from £129. That looks pretty bad to be honest. If you are trying to decide between a 360 and a PS3 and have no deciding factors in terms of games the choice is obvious.

    #95 6 years ago
  96. Eregol

    I’ve actually just listened to that article, and I have to say it is a biased piece of claptrap.
    As an article to help advise people on what to buy, they should concentrate on each console’s strengths and weaknesses.

    No mention of 360 reliability issues, sub-standard 3rd party wii titles (Another party game with added waggle anyone?) and no mention of upcoming stellar PS3 line up.

    You cannot advise when giving only one side of the story.

    #96 6 years ago
  97. cookiejar

    ooh no, I better sell my PS3 now then!
    Thanks Yahoo!, you saved my life once again! Makes me regret using Gmail now ;)

    #97 6 years ago
  98. Psychotext

    Wow… this has to be one of the longest topics I’ve seen here. Some massive overreactions to what is essentially an opinion piece.

    #98 6 years ago
  99. Quiiick

    One more post please! ;)

    #99 6 years ago
  100. Truk

    I win.

    #100 6 years ago
  101. Gamoc

    One-oh-one-oh-one-derful

    #101 6 years ago
  102. morriss

    One hundred and two, how are you?

    #102 6 years ago
  103. BartonFink

    @Shatner – BC eh?

    I wonder how much of an impact that will actually have in the coming months and year as people previously with PS2 and have not bought into this gen yet.
    Will they even know that Sony have dropped it on the floor like a hot shite until they have handed over their PS2 and gotten home?

    And 103 \o/

    #103 6 years ago
  104. Psychotext

    Joy, the BC argument again. The one that absolutely no-one can prove…

    Still, I suppose if no-one cared about BC then the new PS3 hardware available in the US in September should provide a significant bump to their sales.

    #104 6 years ago
  105. Syrok

    Here we go. :)

    Can’t stop myself from giving my opinion on the BC issue so here it goes:
    I think matters little to most of those who are thinking of buying a PS3 now and that they are only waiting for the price to come down. BC only matters to those who could be called hardcore (hate that expression just as much as casual) and those who’s PS2 is broken/broke (Moi.) and now want to step up.

    #105 6 years ago
  106. morriss

    Nah! I know loads of people who are gutted that their old PS2 games won’t play on PS3, and they’re as casual as you come.

    Anecdotal evidence ftw!! \o/

    #106 6 years ago

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