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	<title>Comments on: American sales: PS3 beat 360 in August, says Pachter</title>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26585</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronco maybe you are just as bad as us by getting inolved and having an opinion.

&quot;360 is kicking the PS3s a$$ in the U.S.&quot;

Is that really an objective point? No, it&#039;s not, there&#039;s tons of different perspectives to say that statement is wrong and tons to support it.

Anyway, I am a fucking angel and I am always right. :P


Fin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronco maybe you are just as bad as us by getting inolved and having an opinion.</p>
<p>&#8220;360 is kicking the PS3s a$$ in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that really an objective point? No, it&#8217;s not, there&#8217;s tons of different perspectives to say that statement is wrong and tons to support it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I am a fucking angel and I am always right. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Fin?</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26581</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, I&#039;m no angel.  I&#039;m just as much of an arsehole as the rest of the internet. :)


...and I still stand by my point that the only way you can say the 360 is beating the PS3 in the US is by completely ignoring the fact that the 360 has been out a year longer.  Compare the 360 / PS3 at the same point after release and the PS3 is ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m no angel.  I&#8217;m just as much of an arsehole as the rest of the internet. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;and I still stand by my point that the only way you can say the 360 is beating the PS3 in the US is by completely ignoring the fact that the 360 has been out a year longer.  Compare the 360 / PS3 at the same point after release and the PS3 is ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronco</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26577</link>
		<dc:creator>Bronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Play fare and honest No_Pudding, he/she tried to say &quot;lets agree to disagree and move on&quot; and admitted a mistake long before you joined in but Psychotext wouldnt have any of it and was the one saying youre wrong wrong wrong so you give it up.  Then you came along and claimed something he/she didnt do then you refused to withdraw the comment and admit you were wrong.

Thing is he/she wasnt wrong.  360 is kicking the PS3s a$$ in the U.S. and *the PS3* (edited) is never going to catch up by the looks of it.  As for the debate, well all three of you should shut the hell up.  You aint no angels Pudding and Pyscho so dont act all innocent and trying to make it sound you were proved right in the end when no-one was.

And Revolution, don&#039;t be an a$$ and quit or youll never be able to survive on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play fare and honest No_Pudding, he/she tried to say &#8220;lets agree to disagree and move on&#8221; and admitted a mistake long before you joined in but Psychotext wouldnt have any of it and was the one saying youre wrong wrong wrong so you give it up.  Then you came along and claimed something he/she didnt do then you refused to withdraw the comment and admit you were wrong.</p>
<p>Thing is he/she wasnt wrong.  360 is kicking the PS3s a$$ in the U.S. and *the PS3* (edited) is never going to catch up by the looks of it.  As for the debate, well all three of you should shut the hell up.  You aint no angels Pudding and Pyscho so dont act all innocent and trying to make it sound you were proved right in the end when no-one was.</p>
<p>And Revolution, don&#8217;t be an a$$ and quit or youll never be able to survive on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: captaineurogamer</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26575</link>
		<dc:creator>captaineurogamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pachter sure knows how to rile people :)

As for VGCHARTZ, I used to use the for the weekly Ps3, Wii and so on data. NEVER again will it have any meaning. The data is so off the mark its almost pretty much just anyone&#039;s guess. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pachter sure knows how to rile people <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for VGCHARTZ, I used to use the for the weekly Ps3, Wii and so on data. NEVER again will it have any meaning. The data is so off the mark its almost pretty much just anyone&#8217;s guess. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26572</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you read this revolution blues it&#039;s all good until you threw your toys out the pram and turned into a prick (ironically). I hope you come back tomorrow with a &#039;oh I was hungry&#039; or &#039;I hadn&#039;t had enoguh sleep&#039; statement. Becuase that was a damn melodramatic outburst at nothing.

If you can&#039;t admit you&#039;re wrong gracefully then I guess it&#039;s fine if you don&#039;t show your face here again, but I know I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you read this revolution blues it&#8217;s all good until you threw your toys out the pram and turned into a prick (ironically). I hope you come back tomorrow with a &#8216;oh I was hungry&#8217; or &#8216;I hadn&#8217;t had enoguh sleep&#8217; statement. Becuase that was a damn melodramatic outburst at nothing.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t admit you&#8217;re wrong gracefully then I guess it&#8217;s fine if you don&#8217;t show your face here again, but I know I can.</p>
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		<title>By: wz</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26570</link>
		<dc:creator>wz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon now RB, it&#039;s just a random guy on the internets :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon now RB, it&#8217;s just a random guy on the internets <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26563</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be so amused, but it&#039;s not like No_PUD and I actually get on.  I certainly wouldn&#039;t call him a cheerleader given how many arguments we&#039;ve had.  Could it be, just possibly that you were incapable of articulating arguments compelling enough for people to actually agree with you?

No matter.  You resorted to insults, then you reacted with anger and now you&#039;re closing your account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so amused, but it&#8217;s not like No_PUD and I actually get on.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t call him a cheerleader given how many arguments we&#8217;ve had.  Could it be, just possibly that you were incapable of articulating arguments compelling enough for people to actually agree with you?</p>
<p>No matter.  You resorted to insults, then you reacted with anger and now you&#8217;re closing your account.</p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26561</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PUDDING?:

&quot;Revolution Blues, don’t act all high and mighty when you clearly descended to his level. You are the genius here, for proving to me, you do very easily get confused and go back on your points monumentally.&quot;

JESUS F*CKING CHRIST YOU IDIOT.  Didn&#039;t I already say that I have descended to his level?  You accuse me of doing something I&#039;ve already admitted to, and try to use it as an original attack!  Are you a freaking remedial class idiot or something?  Stop butting in to cheerlead Psycho, like the trailer park-living, hand-me-down-wearing, anonymous skinny kid at the edge of the gang trying desperately to fit in with the big boys, and missing the target completely.  If you read my posts I didn&#039;t go back on a SINGLE point - let alone &quot;monumentally&quot; as you hilariously claim - or prove anything of the sort to you, what I did do is CORRECT BACK TO MY ORIGINAL DATA ONCE TO *CONTINUE* TO SUPPORT A POINT I CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE THREAD, i.e. the PS3 will struggle to catch the 360 in the US, if ever.  Clearly, you must never ever have made a mistake doing anything in your life so you won&#039;t know what it&#039;s like to stand up, concede an error and move on.......what&#039;s it like to be always right?

And constantly repeating a claim without once substantiating it makes you look like spoilt little children.

I&#039;m off, closing my account.  You are worse than the arrogant crank readers at ThreeSpeech.  Someone disagrees with a long-standing member and he throws his toys out the pram and his pathetic hangers-on shout from behind him.

I&#039;ll leave you with a useful tip.  Read a post in full, and ensure you actually understand it, BEFORE replying and throwing the accusations out.  Will help you look less like a prick.

Ta ta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PUDDING?:</p>
<p>&#8220;Revolution Blues, don’t act all high and mighty when you clearly descended to his level. You are the genius here, for proving to me, you do very easily get confused and go back on your points monumentally.&#8221;</p>
<p>JESUS F*CKING CHRIST YOU IDIOT.  Didn&#8217;t I already say that I have descended to his level?  You accuse me of doing something I&#8217;ve already admitted to, and try to use it as an original attack!  Are you a freaking remedial class idiot or something?  Stop butting in to cheerlead Psycho, like the trailer park-living, hand-me-down-wearing, anonymous skinny kid at the edge of the gang trying desperately to fit in with the big boys, and missing the target completely.  If you read my posts I didn&#8217;t go back on a SINGLE point &#8211; let alone &#8220;monumentally&#8221; as you hilariously claim &#8211; or prove anything of the sort to you, what I did do is CORRECT BACK TO MY ORIGINAL DATA ONCE TO *CONTINUE* TO SUPPORT A POINT I CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE THREAD, i.e. the PS3 will struggle to catch the 360 in the US, if ever.  Clearly, you must never ever have made a mistake doing anything in your life so you won&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like to stand up, concede an error and move on&#8230;&#8230;.what&#8217;s it like to be always right?</p>
<p>And constantly repeating a claim without once substantiating it makes you look like spoilt little children.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m off, closing my account.  You are worse than the arrogant crank readers at ThreeSpeech.  Someone disagrees with a long-standing member and he throws his toys out the pram and his pathetic hangers-on shout from behind him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave you with a useful tip.  Read a post in full, and ensure you actually understand it, BEFORE replying and throwing the accusations out.  Will help you look less like a prick.</p>
<p>Ta ta.</p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26513</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahah, saved.

Looks like someone is spying on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahah, saved.</p>
<p>Looks like someone is spying on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26512</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ok, my missus is in work. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ok, my missus is in work. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26511</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/me eats pie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/me eats pie</p>
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		<title>By: wz</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26510</link>
		<dc:creator>wz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always remember &lt;a href=&quot;http://xkcd.com/386/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

My favorite true statement of all time :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always remember <a href="http://xkcd.com/386/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>My favorite true statement of all time <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26508</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26507</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You aren&#039;t confident in it I see....

I never claimed the game will be bad becuase of the development. I just said it wasn&#039;t inspired; rather tacked-on and that means I have little faith.

Make me eat more pie when it&#039;s hailed  X+ on Metacritic.

EDIT: Revolution Blues, don&#039;t act all high and mighty when you clearly descended to his level. You are the genius here, for proving to me, you do very easily get confused and go back on your points monumentally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren&#8217;t confident in it I see&#8230;.</p>
<p>I never claimed the game will be bad becuase of the development. I just said it wasn&#8217;t inspired; rather tacked-on and that means I have little faith.</p>
<p>Make me eat more pie when it&#8217;s hailed  X+ on Metacritic.</p>
<p>EDIT: Revolution Blues, don&#8217;t act all high and mighty when you clearly descended to his level. You are the genius here, for proving to me, you do very easily get confused and go back on your points monumentally.</p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26506</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@No_PUDding,

Which explains my final sentence last post, genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@No_PUDding,</p>
<p>Which explains my final sentence last post, genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26504</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/patpat RB

No_PUD: No, that&#039;ll be fine. You can embellish it however you want when the time comes.  The time will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/patpat RB</p>
<p>No_PUD: No, that&#8217;ll be fine. You can embellish it however you want when the time comes.  The time will come.</p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-2/#comment-26503</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These cards are on the table then!

Deal.

But I will be more than prepared to admit that now. Raise the stakes on my side to make it fair.

EDIT: For someone who said they&#039;d shutup you&#039;re doing an awful job.

Let me just reiterate you can both halt this arguing till Thursday when someone will revive this comment section so either Psycho or I can eat humble pie.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These cards are on the table then!</p>
<p>Deal.</p>
<p>But I will be more than prepared to admit that now. Raise the stakes on my side to make it fair.</p>
<p>EDIT: For someone who said they&#8217;d shutup you&#8217;re doing an awful job.</p>
<p>Let me just reiterate you can both halt this arguing till Thursday when someone will revive this comment section so either Psycho or I can eat humble pie.</p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26502</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you’d forgotten what you were arguing about&quot;

This from the man who said that points about the 360 winning against the PS3 were not relevant to a debate about the 360 winning against the PS3 (perhaps you are confusing being relevant with being right or wrong....which is absurd), and pointing out that the 360 was not winning in the context of the my clearly defined &quot;360 vs. PS3&quot; battle because the, er, Wii was outselling it.  WTF?

Bravo.

Yes, I conceded an error with my data in one post but that did not mean what I was arguing FOR was lost, just my timescale was wrong.  And I withdrew it.

Now see what you did?  You made me come back and descend to your level.  Damn you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you’d forgotten what you were arguing about&#8221;</p>
<p>This from the man who said that points about the 360 winning against the PS3 were not relevant to a debate about the 360 winning against the PS3 (perhaps you are confusing being relevant with being right or wrong&#8230;.which is absurd), and pointing out that the 360 was not winning in the context of the my clearly defined &#8220;360 vs. PS3&#8243; battle because the, er, Wii was outselling it.  WTF?</p>
<p>Bravo.</p>
<p>Yes, I conceded an error with my data in one post but that did not mean what I was arguing FOR was lost, just my timescale was wrong.  And I withdrew it.</p>
<p>Now see what you did?  You made me come back and descend to your level.  Damn you.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26498</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/stabs No_PUD

Hey, if I&#039;m right about the PS3 beating the 360 this month maybe we should make it that you have to post in the BK thread saying that vehicles might actually work and you&#039;ll wait until the game is actually released and reviewed to form an opinion.

If it&#039;s the other way, I&#039;ll post saying that perhaps you were right all along and it seems vehicles were tacked on just a few short months ago and that they&#039;re clearly not going to help a stale genre. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/stabs No_PUD</p>
<p>Hey, if I&#8217;m right about the PS3 beating the 360 this month maybe we should make it that you have to post in the BK thread saying that vehicles might actually work and you&#8217;ll wait until the game is actually released and reviewed to form an opinion.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the other way, I&#8217;ll post saying that perhaps you were right all along and it seems vehicles were tacked on just a few short months ago and that they&#8217;re clearly not going to help a stale genre. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: No_PUDding</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26496</link>
		<dc:creator>No_PUDding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at all this juice... I.. I mean blood on the floor.

Shall we just wait for Thursday? When the 360 beats the PS3. I doubt the rumours and confirmation have much of an effecvt to anyone but the hardcore who read the internet like us.

So I doubt that will affect sales.

August is slow though, but I expect the 360 to beat the PS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at all this juice&#8230; I.. I mean blood on the floor.</p>
<p>Shall we just wait for Thursday? When the 360 beats the PS3. I doubt the rumours and confirmation have much of an effecvt to anyone but the hardcore who read the internet like us.</p>
<p>So I doubt that will affect sales.</p>
<p>August is slow though, but I expect the 360 to beat the PS3.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26492</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never demanded an end to it.  I said you should give up because you&#039;d forgotten what you were arguing about.  I&#039;d be more than happy to read your definition of an iron grip, one that fits your parameters anyway.

You can insult me some more if you like though. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never demanded an end to it.  I said you should give up because you&#8217;d forgotten what you were arguing about.  I&#8217;d be more than happy to read your definition of an iron grip, one that fits your parameters anyway.</p>
<p>You can insult me some more if you like though. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26490</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh look he continues a debate he demanded an end to.  We seem to be in the playground.  Allow me to repsond.

And, because you said those things, they must all be 100% true and relevant, right?  Listing your points doesn&#039;t increase their validity nor does selectively choosing mine reduce theirs so don&#039;t use the debating methods of a spoilt child.

Now stop being a prick and end the debate.  We agree to disagree.  No problem.  Move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look he continues a debate he demanded an end to.  We seem to be in the playground.  Allow me to repsond.</p>
<p>And, because you said those things, they must all be 100% true and relevant, right?  Listing your points doesn&#8217;t increase their validity nor does selectively choosing mine reduce theirs so don&#8217;t use the debating methods of a spoilt child.</p>
<p>Now stop being a prick and end the debate.  We agree to disagree.  No problem.  Move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26487</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you said: 360 has iron grip on US, 360 has sold more than double what the PS3 has sold in less than double the time. PS3 will struggle to catch 360 before 720.

What I said: Sales curve, can&#039;t compare 22 months to 34, PS3 outsold 360 in first 22 months on market, PS3 outsold 360 4 out of 6 months this year. PS3 catching 360 before 720 release is irrelevant unless you think the PS3 will stop selling on the 720s release (which you agreed will not happen).

I think that just about sums it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you said: 360 has iron grip on US, 360 has sold more than double what the PS3 has sold in less than double the time. PS3 will struggle to catch 360 before 720.</p>
<p>What I said: Sales curve, can&#8217;t compare 22 months to 34, PS3 outsold 360 in first 22 months on market, PS3 outsold 360 4 out of 6 months this year. PS3 catching 360 before 720 release is irrelevant unless you think the PS3 will stop selling on the 720s release (which you agreed will not happen).</p>
<p>I think that just about sums it up.</p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26486</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine I&#039;ll give it up and this will be my last post on the subject.  But don&#039;t be a petulant asshole and tell me I don&#039;t know what I am saying when I can quote my points under discussion.  You are the one heading off at a tangent and declaring my points are irrelevant when clearly they are directly linked to my OWN statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine I&#8217;ll give it up and this will be my last post on the subject.  But don&#8217;t be a petulant asshole and tell me I don&#8217;t know what I am saying when I can quote my points under discussion.  You are the one heading off at a tangent and declaring my points are irrelevant when clearly they are directly linked to my OWN statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26483</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, give it up man... I don&#039;t even think you know what you&#039;re trying to argue any more.

Simple facts, the PS3 sold more than the 360 in the US during its first 22 months on sale than the 360 did.  It has outsold the 360 this year 4 out of 6 months.  If you think that&#039;s an iron fist, there&#039;s really no helping you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, give it up man&#8230; I don&#8217;t even think you know what you&#8217;re trying to argue any more.</p>
<p>Simple facts, the PS3 sold more than the 360 in the US during its first 22 months on sale than the 360 did.  It has outsold the 360 this year 4 out of 6 months.  If you think that&#8217;s an iron fist, there&#8217;s really no helping you.</p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26482</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Psychotext, we are currently debating my statement &quot;...the (360) rules the US with an iron fist - at the moment.&quot;  So why is this irrelevant?  It is the very definition of relevancy, we are debating 360 vs Ps3 sales.  As the Ps2 shows, new hardware doesn&#039;t always stop sales of that which it replaces and there is no reason to think MS will repeat the mistake of abandoning its previous child too soon.

PS  AWE DAMMIT!  Just made a right royal ass of myself.  In my last post I revised my estimate of when the PS3 could catch the 360 in the US using a weekly lead figure of 50k.  Of course, I&#039;ve no idea where I plucked that figure from......outta my ass it seems.

And just for the record chaps, I reckon the PS3 will beat the 360 globally if not in the US.  Europe and Japan will swing it for Sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Psychotext, we are currently debating my statement &#8220;&#8230;the (360) rules the US with an iron fist &#8211; at the moment.&#8221;  So why is this irrelevant?  It is the very definition of relevancy, we are debating 360 vs Ps3 sales.  As the Ps2 shows, new hardware doesn&#8217;t always stop sales of that which it replaces and there is no reason to think MS will repeat the mistake of abandoning its previous child too soon.</p>
<p>PS  AWE DAMMIT!  Just made a right royal ass of myself.  In my last post I revised my estimate of when the PS3 could catch the 360 in the US using a weekly lead figure of 50k.  Of course, I&#8217;ve no idea where I plucked that figure from&#8230;&#8230;outta my ass it seems.</p>
<p>And just for the record chaps, I reckon the PS3 will beat the 360 globally if not in the US.  Europe and Japan will swing it for Sony.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26468</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it&#039;s irrelevant... unless you think that the PS3 will instantly stop selling when the 720 comes out, or the 360 for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it&#8217;s irrelevant&#8230; unless you think that the PS3 will instantly stop selling when the 720 comes out, or the 360 for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26467</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you can use past historical performance - albeit recent - and predictions about price cuts and the quality of the future catalogue (including analogous to a competitor) to predict future performance (your point above)?

The iron grip is that at *current* rates, the PS3 will struggle to catch the 360 before the 720 probably arrives.  Remember they&#039;ve got to haul in an install lead of around 6,500,000 with a weekly lead in sales of about 50,000, assuming they can maintain that weekly lead permanently.

(Edit: My earlier point about taking nearly a decade to catch up was clearly wrong.  More like four years I think.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you can use past historical performance &#8211; albeit recent &#8211; and predictions about price cuts and the quality of the future catalogue (including analogous to a competitor) to predict future performance (your point above)?</p>
<p>The iron grip is that at *current* rates, the PS3 will struggle to catch the 360 before the 720 probably arrives.  Remember they&#8217;ve got to haul in an install lead of around 6,500,000 with a weekly lead in sales of about 50,000, assuming they can maintain that weekly lead permanently.</p>
<p>(Edit: My earlier point about taking nearly a decade to catch up was clearly wrong.  More like four years I think.)</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26465</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But... it&#039;s not.  You can&#039;t compare the first 22 months of a console with 34 months of another console.  You can compare the first 22 of each, which shows that the PS3 is stronger than the 360 in the US.  It&#039;s pretty much the same reason it&#039;s useless comparing the 360&#039;s sales this month with the PS3&#039;s sales, it&#039;s better to compare them with what the 360 did the year before.

There is no iron grip.  Only pre NPD spin. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230; it&#8217;s not.  You can&#8217;t compare the first 22 months of a console with 34 months of another console.  You can compare the first 22 of each, which shows that the PS3 is stronger than the 360 in the US.  It&#8217;s pretty much the same reason it&#8217;s useless comparing the 360&#8242;s sales this month with the PS3&#8242;s sales, it&#8217;s better to compare them with what the 360 did the year before.</p>
<p>There is no iron grip.  Only pre NPD spin. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RevolutionBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/09/08/ps3-beat-360-in-august-says-pachter/comment-page-1/#comment-26463</link>
		<dc:creator>RevolutionBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t say or think it&#039;s confusing.  I am talking about historical performance to date.  And that shows the 360 is stronger in the US *to date* than the PS3 which was my initial point questioned by another commenter.

Doesn&#039;t get less confusing than this:

TIME ON SALE
360 &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;
PS3 &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;

SALES
360 &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;
PS3 &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t say or think it&#8217;s confusing.  I am talking about historical performance to date.  And that shows the 360 is stronger in the US *to date* than the PS3 which was my initial point questioned by another commenter.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t get less confusing than this:</p>
<p>TIME ON SALE<br />
360 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||<br />
PS3 |||||||||||||||||||||</p>
<p>SALES<br />
360 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||<br />
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