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Eurogamer.pt’s posted up a comparison video of the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of Pure. Not much in it, obviously, apart from the colour pallete, maybe.
Differences aside, the ATV racer looks excellent, and we’re starting to get nudges that this may very well be one to watch. You can get demos on both PSN and Live now.
Game’s out this “autumn.”
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Syrok said:
To be honest, I don’t quiet believe that the game is almost black and white on the PS3 compared to the colourful 360 version
morriss said:
Why not?
Syrok said:
I don’t know I just find it hard to believe that a developer would you two different filters in one game. I know that there are several other games which look a little bit different (GTA etc) but not this much.
Robo_1 said:
Well I’m downloading it now so I’ll see. There’s already somebody on the EG site that disputes the colour balance, so it could just be down to different display settings which are altering the video capturing tools used.
captaineurogamer said:
It just cannot be that much difference. Me thinks its a case of Eurogamer possibly deliberately doing it.
Robo_1 said:
I doubt it’s a conspiracy, PS3 games usually look a little more washed out in these comparison videos, but I’m pretty sure it’s because of certain settings regarding PS3 display options.
morriss said:
PS3 colours are always more washed out then their 360 counterparts. Well, almost always anyway.
captaineurogamer said:
I am planning to swap a DS, Wii and a Arcade Xbox 360 for a PS3 for LBP, but this video game is a little worrying.
Robo_1 said:
@morriss
That’s quite a sweeping statement to make, are you basing it on personal experience or these sorts of comparisons?
I’ve never thought the colour was a problem, just looks as I’d expect it too. They both use different graphics cards though, so they likely do have different tendencies.
RevolutionBlues said:
Well here’s a thing…….I put my PC LCD next to my Bravia and had this video running next to the demo running from my PS3. Sorry Eurogamer, but your footage of Pure on the PS3 looks nothing like my footage of Pure on the PS3.
Another case of deliberately not using the optimised settings of the PS3 because “that’s how it coms out of the box”. We’ve been here before remember.
And Syrok is right: part of this video suggests that the PS3 is showing some of the game with almost no colour AT ALL. Again, not on my TV.
Now, I’ll get my brother in law to run his 360 and PS3 Pure demos side by side with the PAP feature……….
Robo_1 said:
Just found a good bit of info about why the PS3 colour palette may appear a little more washed out than 360’s:
http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=48054
RevolutionBlues said:
But washed out compared to what? Real life or Pixar movies?
Robo_1 said:
Just had a quick play on Pure then, and yeah, it’s nowhere near as pale as the EG comparison.
I’m on a crusty old SD set though, but I see no discernible difference between what I was just playing and the 360 video. Of course my own colour and contrast settings may alter things, but then everyone can tune that to their taste.
The game itself seemed like a bit of a laugh. Excite Truck meets Motorstorm meets SSX. Good fun but I doubt it’ll be a full price purchase.
Rhythm said:
EG’s colour settings on their PS3 are definitely fucked up. I’ve looked at their previous comparisons on games I own and they’re *always* washed out compared to how rich the colours look on my TV set
furianboy said:
yeah. game plays great. Doesn’t matter if the reviewers like it or not.
No_PUDding said:
Not that colourless for me.
Unless colour is an analogy for fun.
XDamage said:
Probably just a case of leaving the Full RGB setting off, as usual.
Psychotext said:
As I recall these tests have always been done without calibrating the capture device properly for each console. Plus of course not many people have access to HDMI capture devices which doesn’t help because the PS3 component output isn’t great compared to its HDMI output.
XDamage: There are very few screens that you’d use Full RGB on. I’ve seen so many people turn the option on thinking it would help when in fact all they’ve done is created black crush.
No_PUDding said:
Agreed Psychotext, it reduces detail. Not that you can really see, but it does.
I don’t really mind, nowadays it’s just a sign of careless development when the versions aren’t identical.
Or bad capture by the site.
XDamage said:
@ Psychotext. Full RGB works like a charm on newer Bravia sets (and even on my nearly two year old 40w2000). Makes for quite the difference.
I remember how Assassin’s Creed looked like bland crap before turning it on.
wz said:
When I see the so called “washed out” PS3 vids, I cannot help but prefer them to the oh-so-colourful variants. At least in front of my window, nature doesn’t have that Oblivion-esque vibrancy and glare you see in games lately.
Psychotext said:
XDamage: Sure, there are obviously screens that support it… but most don’t which is why people shouldn’t be so quick to just randomly turn on an option they don’t understand.
XDamage said:
Yeah, of course. I only speak out of personal experience.
But I’m pretty sure most screens from 2007 and onward can draw benefit from it being turned on. But as wz said, I guess it’s up to each and every customer if he or she prefer cartoon-like vibrancy, or more natural bland colors.
Psychotext said:
It’s about 10% of modern TVs that support it. It’s usually used more for monitors than TVs.
There’s a good test here: http://nicolaspeople.com/ch3rokeesblog/?p=13
…and you’d probably already know if you’ve properly calibrated your TV (but most don’t, even though they should)
XDamage said:
Yeah, that should work as a bare minimum I guess. I used this one for calibration:
http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=870724
But for anyone who have one of the apparently few Full RGB supporting sets, I highly recommend it!
morriss said:
My “sweeping statement” earlier is from own experience. But I’m using component for both machines (360/PS3) which might explain it. Although I’ve read it several times over.
No_PUDding said:
I love the comparison videos
sanduixe said:
I now all Eurogamer.pt team (I am Portuguese).
So I asked them: “WTF is this?”.
And maybe, just MAYBE there is a problema with the TV and/or with the movie camera.
Pure PS3 version is not so dark.
Rhythm said:
I know this is going to make me sound like a raving fanboi but I’ve just replayed the Pure demo and EG’s comparison vids are utter BS. The PS3 version is FAR from washed out and looks nothing like those clips show
Gamoc said:
Clearly you didn’t read the rest of the comments, Rhythm. Everyone said that.
Eregol said:
I would like to see Comparison videos done by the people actually making the games these days. Just so we can be shown how similar the versions actually are.
I’m a PS3 player, but I doubt that Bioshock actually looks BETTER than it did on 360. Same, yes, but better? I doubt it.
morriss said:
It’s all about the capture equipment used, as was said earlier.
OrphanageExplosion said:
Indeed. It’s all about HDMI and full-range RGB, as used by Eurogamer UK (and clearly not .pt). There’s no other way to do an accurate comparison. No digital precision means that all bets are off.
It’s worth pointing out though that PS3 *does* tend to output a less saturated image compared to Xbox 360 as the Eurogamer UK shots often show. Developers need to individually calibrate both versions to get a match – Burnout Paradise is a good example of this; the colour balance is basically identical.
I would like to see Comparison videos done by the people actually making the games these days. Just so we can be shown how similar the versions actually are.
Bearing in mind these are the people who often tell us the versions are the same when they’re not, they’re the last people I’d trust…
Psychotext said:
I’ve always found Gamersyde try the hardest with their comparison vids. Plus they tend to have the best vids on the net anyway as they’re one of the few people that seem to know how to make vids without having them full of compression artifacts.
sanduixe said:
Hmm, maybe I will buy this.
I’ve loved the demo. : )
Syrok said:
Had time to download it myself now and came to the following conclusions:
a) The above video is not very representative
b) The game is a bit shallow
c) I need a new TV
viruskiller83 said:
hey did u guys owned a ps3? Why just follow blindly as what the comparison shows. I has downloaded the pure demo on my ps3, and the graphic is way better than what have shown here… i am having doubt on where is the comparison take from, pure on the ps3 is as good as the xbox360 or even better. Try yourself and u will know what i comment here is true. Can i still believe in the comparison provided by this website….. How much have Xbox 360 pay u to do this kekekekekkek, sure make a fortune out of this comparison
Psychotext said:
Innit
Javent said:
The Eurogamer.pt video is utter fiction. They’ve messed up the video capture on PS3. It just doesn’t look like that.
Syrok, the depth comes in the other event types and in the techniques you have to use to get faster lap times and higher scores. You have to think in terms of a 3D racing line, You also need to plan when you use boost and when you don’t because boosting compromises the tricks available to you temporarily. It makes boost more valuable. It’s a bit like a sport really. Knowing the rules is just the fist step. Mastering it takes ages and you can always get better. The later stages are nails and make you have to learn the finer techniques to get through.
A new TV is always nice.