Can’t wait for what rockstar come up with. And people who say they are one hit wonders are wrong. One amazing game admittedly, they proabably won’t top, BUT, they are great developers.

@ Shatner: It’s totally justifiable for Pat to single you out in his *two-way conversation with you* because you have been singling him out. Not the site, Pat personally, Makes any direct response to you totally fair, IMHO. If you were talking about news sites more generally or on a philosophical level, things’d be different.

What I don’t understand is why you’re not popping up on any of the other newsblogs and spouting your over-opinionated garbage there. I’m sure Mr Crescente wouldn’t take the same considered approach that Pat has – your behaviour would have led to insta-bannings on the likes of Kotaku and Joystiq. Something to bear in mind, eh?

Lastly, we all know who you are, what you do and where you’re from. Personally, I think your behaviour is irresponsible. Do you have nothing better to do? I would’ve thought you’d be too busy for this shit.

I mean, if you ask me, your behaviour is a newsworthy item in itself. Pat certainly wouldn’t have to attribute anything to anonymous sources either. How do you think that’d look: “So-&-so from company such-&-such publicly lambastes gaming journalism”. Didn’t do much for Denis Dyack or Silicon Knights’ rep, did it?

Why can’t you just play nice like the rest of us?

Published by Rockstar. Developed by Team Bondi. Funded by SCEA.

I don’t know, I just want to know what all these thigns are.

And whether we may get soem old GTA characters back for it .

I don’t think Sony would make a deal like that and let it slip.

I’m only 13

And yes, fair enough. Newbie, if I could genuinely write, “Valve working on new IP” because someone had told me specifically they were, I would. If it’s a big developer, I’d consider it news.

Put it this way. BioWare puts a new team on a big project. No one know what it is. Is that news? Given their pedigree, I would say “yes”. Bear in mind Rockstar North makes GTA, right? Surely, the fact that they’re working on an unannounced game is news?

It’s rhetorical, obviously. It is news. Which is why I post it.

I also don’t agree with your attempt to absolve yourself of accountability for what you publish.

Your rhetoric of being a mere pawn is very cute. As are your personal attacks. Not that you single anyone out or anything. Right?

Sometimes, people tell me things they clearly want broadcast. I put them on the internet. I’m a pawn, Shatner, as, to a certain extent, are all journalists. You single yourself out by behaving the way you do on here, as you well know.

I do tolerate your opinion. I don’t agree with it, as I’m not insane. There’s a huge difference between “tolerance” and “agreement”. It seems very obvious to me that the only person here with a real “tolerance” problem is you.

And I’ll say what I like, thanks. As you can too.

S’funny though, my name doesn’t appear on internetstalker.com and never has. I guess internet stalkers with an inability to tolerate a difference of opinion are really motivated to ‘win’ on the internet.

And it’s amazing what a news story which projects credibility has versus a story which projects none. I also really like the way you take me to task (not that you’re singling me out or anything) over the things I don’t say or don’t comment on as some sort of point of principle.

It all smacks of making something out of nothing and presenting it as substantial and worthwhile. Which brings us neatly back on topic as to the theme of this news story.

Now, if you can stop making personal attcks aimed at your readers you can spend more time exercising better editorial control over your site’s content. I’m sure we’d all reap the rewards from such an endeavour, don’t you?

You could most probably write a “Valve working on new IP” for example (IMO).

Your name is on your bloody website, linked to from your posts. How is that my fault? Don’t come moaning to me when you run into trouble. Say what you like on here, but don’t expect me to bail you out.

Of course I mentioned that PS4 thread. It’s legendary. It’s gone to the top. The best ever. The proper, “That guy went fucking mental, didn’t he?” thread. I’ll read it one day.

And you’re very welcome here. Does my traffic no end of good

It’s a complete non event. Everyone does it. Just because you don’t know that everyone does it doesn’t make it special. It certainly doesn’t make it newsworthy. And that you’ve only noticed a developer doing it (well, you didn’t notice, someone told you and you chose to believe them and run with a ‘story’) when a big sexy headline grabbing developer name like Rockstar does it says plenty about how in touch with the day-to-day development process you probably are.

As for your question, it’s apples and oranges. The article you linked to mentions specific names of specific people as the source of the information the story is based on. It makes quite a difference to the credibility of the information when someone is actually willing to put their name to it. But then, as I’ve noticed before Pat, you have no problem naming names when it suits you and keeping people anonymous when it doesn’t.

And, on the topic of trolling, it seems that it’s flared up again thanks to a reference you chose to make but instead of genuinely caring about trolling you’d prefer to raise it as a way of attempting to dismiss one person’s point of view rather than dealing with the real trolling that’s going on in another corner of your site. That’s a nice flexible application of principles you seem to have.

And I was never away. I’ve told you that when I have no comment to make I make no comment. But it’s always nice to be made to feel so welcome. Thanks.

What I really like is that you assume something is “nothing” just because you don’t know anything about it.

You don’t have to believe it, obviously. Oddly, though, it seems you’ve completely ignored my question on this. Almost as if you’re trolling, really. Weird how you never say anything positive about any of the stories, isn’t it?

Nice to have you back, anyway

And, let’s get this straight: Rockstar greenlighting a new IP would be newsworthy indeed. A nice attempt at convoluting the ‘news’ you’ve run with. The story here is that an unannounced IP isn’t being greenlit and isn’t going into further development.

Not that any concrete claim is made one way or another by anyone of any worth. But, hey, let’s just believe every scrap of ‘news’ posted without question like good little drones!

You’re attempting to make a story out of something that is, quite literally, nothing.

It’s vapourous. It tells nobody anything tangible but it gets a nice headline on your website. Good for you.

And, on top of that, you’re making snippy remarks towards your readership too. Good call!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6175813.html

Quite how you think Rockstar North greenlighting a brand new IP isn’t newsworthy is baffling to me. You know what it means for a developer to put a team onto something. It isn’t a concept: it’s a new IP. From the people that make the biggest game ever created. Small beans, obviously.

Do you think this was worth publishing?

Keep it up, by the way. You’d be astonished at the “calibre” of person using the name “shatner” in private after your performance in that PS4 thread

It reads like bullshit. It’s totally unremarkable news that amounts to absolutely nothing whatsoever. All developers do this. The only reason this stands out because it’s a developer with a headline grabbing name. If you speak to most developers you’ll find the same claim applies.

The lure of ‘Rockstar Games’ ‘anonymity’ and ‘choosing to speak to VG247′ may sway you but it’s a total non event of a non event. I don’t care how excited you are or how much you want to suggest I just don’t understand. This still amounts to vapourware and empty sensationalism and you know it.

Don’t attempt to single me out just because I’m not going to fawn and gawp at The Emperor’s New Clothes.

New IP, new concepts, its all the same thing really in development terms. My point (and many afterwards) was this happens with all games companies all over the world, if news was reported on the amount of new IP/concepts that don’t make it to release, we would be here all day reporting it….