Comments on: Reeves: Publisher exclusivity probably “a thing of the past” http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:57:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24631 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:44:39 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24631 That was the teaser trailer. There was talk of it long before that. With the website being set up and hints being dropped all over the place. I've been following this one for a while. :) That was the teaser trailer. There was talk of it long before that. With the website being set up and hints being dropped all over the place.

I’ve been following this one for a while. :)

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24626 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:28:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24626 You sure it wasn't X06 - That being nigh on 2 years ago? You sure it wasn’t X06 – That being nigh on 2 years ago?

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24614 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:55:48 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24614 3-4 years (I can't find the quote I'm looking for which says exactly how long). They first started teasing in April 2005 so before that for sure. 3-4 years (I can’t find the quote I’m looking for which says exactly how long). They first started teasing in April 2005 so before that for sure.

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24611 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:37:23 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24611 How long has Banjo been in development then? I assume it can't be long over 2 yeasr, it was only announced 2 years ago. How long has Banjo been in development then? I assume it can’t be long over 2 yeasr, it was only announced 2 years ago.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24610 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:33:11 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24610 No_PUDding: Banjo has been in development for longer than 2 years. Unless you meant Viva Pinata 2 (which obviously hasn't). No_PUDding: Banjo has been in development for longer than 2 years. Unless you meant Viva Pinata 2 (which obviously hasn’t).

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24609 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:13:46 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24609 I know it's been in development sub 2 years, and I know their development team is not blockbuster size by any means. That all points to being budget - certainly Viva Pinata. For SCEI passion isn't an element I agree, but they know nurturing their first party so there's passion IS an element. That's my point. Nintendo were forced to go the direction they did with the Wii, but the DS truly has furthered the handheld market. I don't have Sony on a pedestal, but I do have Microsoft down in a hole somewhat. I said that already. And yes I think they all want to further the industry, so there is more of a market to sell to. Xbox introduced the online element, and that was one of the great things I will compliment Microsoft for. Without them I would have bet the PS3 wouldn't have adequate online capabilities. I know it’s been in development sub 2 years, and I know their development team is not blockbuster size by any means. That all points to being budget – certainly Viva Pinata.

For SCEI passion isn’t an element I agree, but they know nurturing their first party so there’s passion IS an element. That’s my point. Nintendo were forced to go the direction they did with the Wii, but the DS truly has furthered the handheld market. I don’t have Sony on a pedestal, but I do have Microsoft down in a hole somewhat. I said that already.

And yes I think they all want to further the industry, so there is more of a market to sell to. Xbox introduced the online element, and that was one of the great things I will compliment Microsoft for. Without them I would have bet the PS3 wouldn’t have adequate online capabilities.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24607 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:10:30 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24607 Well... for Banjo I can because I know how long it's been in development for and how big the team is. Also, you seem to have Sony up on a pedestal here. Do you really think that they're taking risks to further the industry? Same for Nintendo. You think they made the DS because they wanted to further gaming or gave the Wii waggle because of some sort of passion? They are ALL in it to make money, nothing else. Games developers, yeah... they can have a passion. But the decision makers at Sony, MS and Nintendo are bean counters. What they say goes... and benefiting the industry doesn't even enter their minds when the bottom line has to be taken care of. Well… for Banjo I can because I know how long it’s been in development for and how big the team is.

Also, you seem to have Sony up on a pedestal here. Do you really think that they’re taking risks to further the industry? Same for Nintendo. You think they made the DS because they wanted to further gaming or gave the Wii waggle because of some sort of passion?

They are ALL in it to make money, nothing else. Games developers, yeah… they can have a passion. But the decision makers at Sony, MS and Nintendo are bean counters. What they say goes… and benefiting the industry doesn’t even enter their minds when the bottom line has to be taken care of.

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24605 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:05:42 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24605 Well neither you or I can prove they are or aren't budget titles. My assumption came from the amount of titles they are developing as a team. In conjunction with the short amount of time they have been developed in. But neither are risks that are helping the industry, and the recent change in tides, where Sony has become less of a joke (becuase they really were) this generation is kind of forcing them to do this. Well neither you or I can prove they are or aren’t budget titles.

My assumption came from the amount of titles they are developing as a team. In conjunction with the short amount of time they have been developed in.

But neither are risks that are helping the industry, and the recent change in tides, where Sony has become less of a joke (becuase they really were) this generation is kind of forcing them to do this.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24601 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:59:09 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24601 That's the thing... neither are budget titles, which is exactly where the risk comes from. They're trying to attract casual gamers with that plus the new $199 arcade machine, which is a pretty significant risk. That’s the thing… neither are budget titles, which is exactly where the risk comes from. They’re trying to attract casual gamers with that plus the new $199 arcade machine, which is a pretty significant risk.

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24599 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:56:49 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24599 To me it just shows they budget titles, using some well known names. Sorry about the Braid mistake, I actually have no clue about MS points, I thought it was 1600 or 1800. I was just referring to the whole debacle lightly. It's true every business is in it to make money, but some businesses can be passionate about it too. People seem to think every business is in it for the money solely. For a developer, passion comes first and business comes later when it becomes imperative to continue making money. To me it just shows they budget titles, using some well known names.

Sorry about the Braid mistake, I actually have no clue about MS points, I thought it was 1600 or 1800. I was just referring to the whole debacle lightly.

It’s true every business is in it to make money, but some businesses can be passionate about it too. People seem to think every business is in it for the money solely. For a developer, passion comes first and business comes later when it becomes imperative to continue making money.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24596 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:45:01 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24596 Every business is in this to make money. Some take more risks than others. Braid was 1200 points btw... and some might say a bigger risk is pricing Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata at $39.99. Great for us, but it might not work out so well for them. Every business is in this to make money. Some take more risks than others. Braid was 1200 points btw… and some might say a bigger risk is pricing Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata at $39.99.

Great for us, but it might not work out so well for them.

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24593 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:21:29 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24593 Yes which is why I can't bring myself to compliment Microsoft very often. Microsoft do very little to help this industry along, other than pour money from their parent company into it. By all means useful, and surely one of the reasons it's expanding at such a rate. But the biggest risk Microsoft ever took was to price Braid at 1600 MS points. Yes which is why I can’t bring myself to compliment Microsoft very often.

Microsoft do very little to help this industry along, other than pour money from their parent company into it. By all means useful, and surely one of the reasons it’s expanding at such a rate. But the biggest risk Microsoft ever took was to price Braid at 1600 MS points.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24588 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:01:47 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24588 It's risk vs reward No_PUD. You can cherry pick the best third party exclusives but taking on entire dev teams mean you take responsibility for their success and failure. All of it. It’s risk vs reward No_PUD. You can cherry pick the best third party exclusives but taking on entire dev teams mean you take responsibility for their success and failure. All of it.

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24587 No_PUDding Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:57:32 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24587 It's a lot easier to buy an multiplatform than to buy an exclusive. The situation with FFXIII was unfortunate, and Sony really should have a larger stake in the Square Enix. Or atleast an internal developm ent studio for RPGs. Since everyone is moaning. I am shocked Microsoft is still using it's money to buy multiplatforms rather than first parties or IP's. I think they are bad at handlign first parties, but the IP's should be fine. It’s a lot easier to buy an multiplatform than to buy an exclusive.

The situation with FFXIII was unfortunate, and Sony really should have a larger stake in the Square Enix. Or atleast an internal developm ent studio for RPGs.

Since everyone is moaning.

I am shocked Microsoft is still using it’s money to buy multiplatforms rather than first parties or IP’s. I think they are bad at handlign first parties, but the IP’s should be fine.

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24585 patlike Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:48:59 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24585 He was pretty matter of fact about this sort of stuff, to be honest. I liked his little dig about FF being exclusive in Japan. Made me laugh. He was pretty matter of fact about this sort of stuff, to be honest. I liked his little dig about FF being exclusive in Japan. Made me laugh.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-24584 Psychotext Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:45:23 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/26/reeves-publisher-exclusivity-probably-a-thing-of-the-past/#comment-24584 It's quite funny to see this... mostly because they've been able to hold onto so few third party exclusives whereas MS has been buying as many as they can get their hands on. They played the moneyhat game with the PS1 and it worked well. They had it lucky with the PS2 in that they were the given exclusives by default due to market share. This gen is a lot more vicious all round and a far tougher fight. It’s quite funny to see this… mostly because they’ve been able to hold onto so few third party exclusives whereas MS has been buying as many as they can get their hands on.

They played the moneyhat game with the PS1 and it worked well. They had it lucky with the PS2 in that they were the given exclusives by default due to market share. This gen is a lot more vicious all round and a far tougher fight.

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