Comments on: PS4 and Xbox ’720′ to arrive in 2011/12, says Crytek http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23678 Quiiick Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:12:24 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23678 <i>"... The jump to next gen will NOT be as hard as many think, vendors like IBM, Apple and Intel are devising ways to allow programers to take advantage of existing resources without needing to thread their way to china in the software ..."</i> Let's hope so! Otherwise, I guess, the cheapest option would be to run a studio in china from the get go. ;) “… The jump to next gen will NOT be as hard as many think, vendors like IBM, Apple and Intel are devising ways to allow programers to take advantage of existing resources without needing to thread their way to china in the software …”

Let’s hope so!
Otherwise, I guess, the cheapest option would be to run a studio in china from the get go. ;)

]]> By: mortiferus http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23669 mortiferus Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:57:02 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23669 Quiiick, I know that is a bit of the marketing mumbo jumbo that is spewed out very couple of years but what I mean is that this will be the first generation to break away from the traditional GPU/CPU combo (though not eliminate it)... and I do not mean that it will just be a scaled up cores architecture. It will be a mix of raw power and the Cuda and Open CL's standards ( and whatever M$ id working on) of the world that will lead to the biggest jump in graphics since SNES to PS1. As far as development is concerned, every generation there is a leap in fidelity and that translates into development, or I should say impacts development. But it is part of the biz. The jump to next gen will NOT be as hard as many think, vendors like IBM, Apple and Intel are devising ways to allow programers to take advantage of existing resources without needing to thread their way to china in the software. Basically, these new system will do the heavy lifting, threading and resource management, freeing up developers to learn how to best and most creatively utilize the power. Quiiick, I know that is a bit of the marketing mumbo jumbo that is spewed out very couple of years but what I mean is that this will be the first generation to break away from the traditional GPU/CPU combo (though not eliminate it)… and I do not mean that it will just be a scaled up cores architecture. It will be a mix of raw power and the Cuda and Open CL’s standards ( and whatever M$ id working on) of the world that will lead to the biggest jump in graphics since SNES to PS1.

As far as development is concerned, every generation there is a leap in fidelity and that translates into development, or I should say impacts development. But it is part of the biz.

The jump to next gen will NOT be as hard as many think, vendors like IBM, Apple and Intel are devising ways to allow programers to take advantage of existing resources without needing to thread their way to china in the software. Basically, these new system will do the heavy lifting, threading and resource management, freeing up developers to learn how to best and most creatively utilize the power.

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23663 Quiiick Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:17:48 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23663 <i>"... these systems will blow away the current generation by a much larger scale than what their current gen counterparts did against their predecessors."</i> Ironically that's exactly what is always said about next-gen games-hardware! And the generational gap will again be marginal for several reasons, but most of all because the theoretical power will not be used right from the start. We've seen this so many times now: 1. Developers need to adapt to the new environment first. 2. Power comes at a hefty price to build these new and super realistic games and the userbase again is just not there at the start in order to justify such expensive projects. and so on ... “… these systems will blow away the current generation by a much larger scale than what their current gen counterparts did against their predecessors.”

Ironically that’s exactly what is always said about next-gen games-hardware!

And the generational gap will again be marginal for several reasons, but most of all because the theoretical power will not be used right from the start.

We’ve seen this so many times now:
1. Developers need to adapt to the new environment first.
2. Power comes at a hefty price to build these new and super realistic games and the userbase again is just not there at the start in order to justify such expensive projects.
and so on …

]]> By: mortiferus http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23659 mortiferus Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:26:15 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23659 For the 360's successor 2010 makes perfect sense but it will ultimately be determined by the overall component picture. The next gen will be a bout massive parallel processors that eliminate the bottlenecks of he current architectures. IBM and Intel are both working on these type of systems and with NVidia's Cuda and Apple's open standard Open CL tecnologies to tap, these systems will blow away the current generation by a much larger scale than what their current gen counterparts did against their predecessors. For the 360′s successor 2010 makes perfect sense but it will ultimately be determined by the overall component picture. The next gen will be a bout massive parallel processors that eliminate the bottlenecks of he current architectures. IBM and Intel are both working on these type of systems and with NVidia’s Cuda and Apple’s open standard Open CL tecnologies to tap, these systems will blow away the current generation by a much larger scale than what their current gen counterparts did against their predecessors.

]]> By: No_PUDding http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23574 No_PUDding Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:15:20 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23574 I like that answer... I like that answer…

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23572 Quiiick Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:07:44 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23572 @ Psychotext We'll see ... ;) @ Psychotext
We’ll see … ;)

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23571 Psychotext Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:04:55 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23571 Quiiick: They said that about the Wii after looking at the DS... Quiiick: They said that about the Wii after looking at the DS…

]]> By: DrDamn http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23569 DrDamn Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23569 A 6 year cycle is the usual PS one isn't it? With 10 years the overall cycle including overlap. I think MS will do similar this time. The original XBox was a shoe in on the market so had a shorter cycle. A 6 year cycle is the usual PS one isn’t it? With 10 years the overall cycle including overlap. I think MS will do similar this time. The original XBox was a shoe in on the market so had a shorter cycle.

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23566 Quiiick Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:51:33 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23566 @ pjmaybe <i>"... And Nintendo will probably just do what they did last time, sit around, announce a revolutionary new control method and pee all over the other two sales wise … alas."</i> No, I don't think Nintendo will land the same coup a second time! The novelty of today will be worn out by then. @ pjmaybe
“… And Nintendo will probably just do what they did last time, sit around, announce a revolutionary new control method and pee all over the other two sales wise … alas.”

No, I don’t think Nintendo will land the same coup a second time! The novelty of today will be worn out by then.

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23565 Quiiick Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:40:31 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23565 @ ecu <i>"Microsoft won’t dump the 360 like they did with the original Xbox. They’ll want a smoother transition after seeing how profitable the PS2 still is for Sony."</i> Agreed! But it will be smoother anyway because Microsoft (as well as Sony) will port XBL/PSN to their next console which makes any new system much more familiar like any other transition before. You will be able to play all your XBL/PSN titles just out of the (new) box. Account migration will be key in the next generation of consoles. @ ecu
“Microsoft won’t dump the 360 like they did with the original Xbox. They’ll want a smoother transition after seeing how profitable the PS2 still is for Sony.”
Agreed! But it will be smoother anyway because Microsoft (as well as Sony) will port XBL/PSN to their next console which makes any new system much more familiar like any other transition before. You will be able to play all your XBL/PSN titles just out of the (new) box. Account migration will be key in the next generation of consoles.

]]> By: pjmaybe http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23564 pjmaybe Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:35:37 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23564 We'll see. I bet both MS and Sony have itchy crotches to ensure they don't get left behind by the inevitable "Next Next Gen" rush. And Nintendo will probably just do what they did last time, sit around, announce a revolutionary new control method and pee all over the other two sales wise...alas. We’ll see. I bet both MS and Sony have itchy crotches to ensure they don’t get left behind by the inevitable “Next Next Gen” rush. And Nintendo will probably just do what they did last time, sit around, announce a revolutionary new control method and pee all over the other two sales wise…alas.

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23563 Quiiick Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:34:39 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23563 @ pjmaybe "Hahaah in a chimp’s ... hope for is a slimmer PS3.5" Well, if Microsoft really launches a new Xbox, say in 2012, Sony will be in trouble, despite any great sales they might have by the time. Sony would need to react in some way ... @ pjmaybe
“Hahaah in a chimp’s … hope for is a slimmer PS3.5″

Well, if Microsoft really launches a new Xbox, say in 2012, Sony will be in trouble, despite any great sales they might have by the time.
Sony would need to react in some way …

]]> By: ecu http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23560 ecu Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:25:13 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23560 Microsoft won't dump the 360 like they did with the original Xbox. They'll want a smoother transition after seeing how profitable the PS2 still is for Sony. Microsoft won’t dump the 360 like they did with the original Xbox. They’ll want a smoother transition after seeing how profitable the PS2 still is for Sony.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23559 Psychotext Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:25:03 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23559 Track record pj? They've had one console. :P Besides that, they didn't own any of the tech in the original xbox and couldn't cost reduce it... which is why it got dumped. They own the rights to everything in the 360. Track record pj? They’ve had one console. :P

Besides that, they didn’t own any of the tech in the original xbox and couldn’t cost reduce it… which is why it got dumped. They own the rights to everything in the 360.

]]> By: pjmaybe http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23557 pjmaybe Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:22:51 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23557 Hahaah in a chimp's cock they will. The 720 is most likely - given Microsoft's track record of dumping a console on its arse with no future support given, just to farm out the next one. PS4 though - forget it. Best you can hope for is a slimmer PS3.5 Hahaah in a chimp’s cock they will.

The 720 is most likely – given Microsoft’s track record of dumping a console on its arse with no future support given, just to farm out the next one.

PS4 though – forget it. Best you can hope for is a slimmer PS3.5

]]> By: deanimate http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23555 deanimate Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:19:40 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23555 yes. volumes about the sincerity of his initial statement. yes.
volumes about the sincerity of his initial statement.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23551 Psychotext Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:01:00 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23551 I asked said badger to confirm what you just posted... it said nothing. The silence spoke volumes. I asked said badger to confirm what you just posted… it said nothing. The silence spoke volumes.

]]> By: deanimate http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23549 deanimate Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:55:06 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23549 ive got a pretty stone cold confirmation, from a badger, that sony are updating the firmware in all future PS3's to allow them to make toast. ive got a pretty stone cold confirmation, from a badger, that sony are updating the firmware in all future PS3′s to allow them to make toast.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23547 Psychotext Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:52:52 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23547 If you're going to go for predictions, at least make them moderately insane. Wii HD to release in 2009 with full bodysuit controller! If you’re going to go for predictions, at least make them moderately insane.

Wii HD to release in 2009 with full bodysuit controller!

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/comment-page-1/#comment-23545 Blerk Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:25 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/19/ps4-and-xbox-720-to-arrive-in-201112-says-crytek/#comment-23545 This story's all over the internets, yet he freely admits that he's just guessing and doesn't actually <b>know</b> anything. Perhaps we could get him to guess some more things? Lottery numbers, perhaps? This story’s all over the internets, yet he freely admits that he’s just guessing and doesn’t actually know anything. Perhaps we could get him to guess some more things? Lottery numbers, perhaps?

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