Comments on: Gosen: “We WILL outsell the PlayStation 3″

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:05:45 +0000

Oh, I wont disagree that the design of the thing is a total cash in on the iPod craze. That’s a certainty.

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:36:10 +0000

@ morris
Thanks for the compliment!

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:33:35 +0000

There really is no reason to continue my argument if you can’t see the subtlety of Nintendo’s style:
The way they mix “white & light blue”, the way they do their advertisement, the way they design the package of the console & the accessories, the naming of the console, and, and …

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:28:44 +0000

Quiick. My apologies. I’ve got you completely confused with another user. Sorry about that.

Also, your English is excellent. Sorry again.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:19:05 +0000

There’s nothing stylish about it. It’s just small.

You’re mistaking popularity with style (as so many do).

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:16:35 +0000

@ Psychotext
No, they certainly do stylish hardware, like Apple (see also wz’s post).
And yes, they are VERY accessible.

By: wz

wz — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:13:16 +0000

PT: What Nintendo does is style-y, the casual in-your-living-room style, perfectly matched to your iPod and iLife and iWhatever.

Still, I like the Wii.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:11:28 +0000

Nintendo don’t do style Quiiick. They do accessibility.

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:07:19 +0000

Yes, I think so! But it’s quite difficult to prove it for 2 reasons:

1.) English is not my native language!

2.) The mistakes Microsoft made are on a meta-level of communications. They are really bad in figuring out what you need to establish a high-quality brand image. Unlike Sony, Nintendo or Apple, for example, they have no idea how to create “style”. And this lack of knowledge/feeling will be the main reason they will fail IMHO.

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:54:17 +0000

Have they?

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:52:12 +0000

@ morriss
No need to call me a Sony-fanboy.
I owned an Xbox360 long before I bought a PS3.

I just think Microsoft made a lot of mistakes with the 360 (starting it all with the ugly RRoD issue …) and that is why I believe they have no chance.
Back in 2005 I thought Sony was really disrespecting their users but they changed quite a lot since then.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:10:44 +0000

But yeah, it’s a interesting enough tool… but far better if you can be very specific (model numbers etc).

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:09:56 +0000

Blerk: This one is better

By: wz

wz — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:08:07 +0000

Mine’s been eaten too. Monster hates links.

Just make it

wii
xbox + xbox360 + xbox 360
ps3 + playstation 3 + playstation3

to see Nintendo fall below the others!

Oh, and my eaten comment mentions I would not try to put meaning into that

By: Blerk

Blerk — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:08:01 +0000

What about this one?

By: wz

wz — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:07:33 +0000

PT: Most interesting indeed. The original search was one of the examples of Google Insights for Search, so I just copy'n'pasted it. Now, it's even better to glue it all together: look at this, Nintendo dropped below the others. Ah, statistics, looks like fact, means like nothing.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:07:21 +0000

Thanks.

(stupid comment monster)

By: Blerk

Blerk — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:03:27 +0000

Hello all. I see the schools are out.

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:58:39 +0000

Ta-daaa!

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:57:32 +0000

What happened? Gimme a sec.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:50:03 +0000

/waves at moderator

The comment monster ate my post.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:49:10 +0000

wz: That query changes quite a lot depending on what terms you use. I.E: This one is for xbox, wii and PS3 This one is for xbox 360, wii and PS3 Your original one was for "xbox360" (no space)

By: wz

wz — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:39:56 +0000

I just stumpled upon this interesting chart. Just telling.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:53:32 +0000

@No_PUDding: I wouldn’t go so far as “lost”… they’re selling a lot better than the original xbox did here, but when you’ve got the Wii trampling over everyone, everywhere you don’t stand a chance.

The best they can do is get solid sales for the rest of the gen and capitalise in the US.

By: mortiferus

mortiferus — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:22:20 +0000

@ Quiiick:

Don’t ever underestimate the power of “ Both a Larger Library of Games, a low hardware price… and MS’ Deep Pockets”.

While I do agree that the “new xbox “experience” is nothing to get too exited about for the hardcore gamer, I must acknowledge that it is a step in the right direction for MS. It is gunning for the … casual crowd and social gamers.

Plus, when combined with the 3D Mii’s and the other as of yet unkownn software projects that will use it, it “might” turn out to be a unique selling point. Finally it is a hell of a lot nicer than the minimalist XMB. nuff said.

By: No_PUDding

No_PUDding — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:13:30 +0000

I just think that EU is lost to them somewhat. It’s got the image of a 12-14 year old’s thing, and Halo was the only reason it sold in the first place.

The X really doesn’t do anything for them. They could have named it a multitude of things that avoided 90′s ‘radical’ linguistic trends, and I am sure their image would been better.

Or do I mean XBetter?

By: morriss

morriss — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:06:56 +0000

Even if Sony themselves admitted 360 was the better machine and would sell more Quiick would probably dispute it.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:44:48 +0000

I’ll have some of what you’re smoking Quiiick. Or at least a description of the magical things you see!

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:07:12 +0000

… the new xbox “experience” is just a new coat of paint stolen aesthetically from all kinds of places and definitely not “the magic of software”.
Real magic has a different look …

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:01:34 +0000

@ mortiferus
Don’t ever underestimate the power of “image”.
No price-cut whatsoever will let Microsoft lead the console-war in Europe or Japan.